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Are you really naive enough to believe this ? It's off-topic, so I won't bother explaining how wrong you are here. All the same... daaaaamn.
You can look for various trends, but there is no evidence here that the availability of guns leads to more murders. Two of the most heavily armed countries, Finland and Switzerland, have murder rates of 2.2 and 0.7, among the lowest in the world. On the other hand, every country with a murder rate at least 5 times greater than the U.S.'s has at least 5 times fewer firearms per person than the U.S.
Are you really naive enough to believe this ? It's off-topic, so I won't bother explaining how wrong you are here. All the same... daaaaamn.
Are you going to keep dodging my question?
how is a felon carrying a gun law abiding at any time?
To the eyeball, it looks like a more heavily armed population goes hand-in-hand with less murder, as an average. The statistics bear that out: the correlation coefficient is negative, -0.23, and it is statistically significant.
Gun rates. Not murder rates. Gun rates. You're struggling with this.
Fifth time. Which European countries with strict gun controls have a higher gun death rate than the U.S.?
The felon's father committed a crime in giving him the firearm you stupid . You are too stupid to debate I am through with you.
He had plenty of black friends though. Like I said earlier I'm very confused.
Actually you did say this...
Originally Posted by Blizzardwizard
I ask again, which countries in Europe that have strict gun laws have higher death rates than the U.S.?
When did I talk about the father? You're struggling.
Any criminologist will tell you that "gun rates" are a deflection and distraction, as murder by strangling, beating, and stabbing simply go up in countries with harsher gun laws, meaning society isn't any safer. You have to look at murder rates and violent crime to judge the efficacy of gun control laws, and by any objective measure, they fail to prevent either one.
For ing s sake you stupid .
So every other country in Europe has a lower murder rate than that of the US.
Hmm.
What the do you not understand about it being illegal for a felon to own a firearm?
And many of them rank among the highest in the world in gun ownership.
Hmm.
And many do not.
So basically no clear causation has been shown one way or the other.
Hmm.
You're trying real hard to connect dots that you have created yourself. Where did I mention the father specifically? Why was the man in possession of a gun with previous charges without any police intervention? You seem to be trying very hard to deviate from my gun laws questions by mentioning that the man was a felon constantly.. How can conservatives defend this?
You want to play the 'which gun laws would you implement' game, then what do you propose is done jackass? You enlighten us all with your infinite knowledge. How will Conservatives prevent these mass murders happening again.
I doubt you'll answer properly. Probably mention felons again.
Yet the statistics show that overall there is a statistically-significant correlation between high gun ownership rates and low murder rates (and vice versa):
Hmm.
To the eyeball, it looks like a more heavily armed population goes hand-in-hand with less murder, as an average. The statistics bear that out: the correlation coefficient is negative, -0.23, and it is statistically significant.
But, to the eyeball, there are plenty of countries with low gun ownership and low murder rates.
Are they insignificant?
Hmm.
Your stats and graphs did not address solely gun rates. Which is my entire point.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/data...hip-world-list
Which European countries with strict gun laws from that list have a higher 'Number of homicides by Firearm' (gun rate) than the U.S. ?
Hey Blizzardwizard, if gun control is the only answer to tragedies like this, how do you explain the heroism of Charl van Wyk, Jeanne Assam, and Terry Howell Sr. during similar attacks on churches?
http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-cour...0#.VYN2H-d318o
http://www.5280.com/magazine/2012/12...-still-waiting
http://www.westernjournalism.com/flo...d-fire-church/
his father gave it to him illegally and should be charged as such. No "new" law would have prevented an already illegal act. I don't see a single conservative defending this wtf are you talking about. And why do you refuse to defend your claim that he wasn't committing a crime while carrying a firearm as a felon? Are you just pretending you never said that do I need to quote it again?
im not going to propose any new laws because I am aware they wouldn't have stopped his father from illegally giving him a gun. You on the other hand seem to have some law in mind that would have prevented this so what is this new law you propose?You want to play the 'which gun laws would you implement' game, then what do you propose is done jackass? You enlighten us all with your infinite knowledge. How will Conservatives prevent these mass murders happening again.
have you figured out its illegal for felons to own firearms in America yet?I doubt you'll answer properly. Probably mention felons again.
Go to bed Blizzardwizard this is embarrassing.
Which European countries have 35 million n¡ggers and 50 million Mestizos in them?
Ive never understood why people compare 95% white countries in Europe to the US
You have used a lot of words, but said nothing.
This is purely anecdotal but the most racist person I know has several black friends, including a close friend basically transgender. He's the only person I know who will drop "n*gger" without a care in the world. I don't really understand it, but it seems like racists are able to still have friends of a different race while being completely belligerent to that race as a whole.
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