Not because Delladova is better than Irving as a player, it's because it means more of the offense goes through Lebron, and Delladova focuses on nothing BUT defense, which he is better than Irving at.You're really going to argue here that the Cavs are better with Delladova than Irving?
This is honestly why I don't like debating with you.
Lebron taking more of the offensive load is always a good thing, the fear is that he would break down physically, which he didn't. He played well till Game 6, it was the other players who didn't have the stamina to hang. Which brings us back to the original point, the Cavs management did a poor job putting together a team to challenge for a le. Love and Irving can't be counted on as integral pieces of a championship team, then you have players like JR Smith, Shumpert, and Delladova, and a bunch of castoffs who are way past their primes (or even playing days) or has never really been good, or both.
EDIT: You ability to bring solid evidence to the argument is showing again. Bravo.
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When he's the alpha with no help, he gets gaudy statistics that don't translate to victory over the course of a series.
When he has all-star and HOF help on a Superteam, he defers after he's punched in the mouth. He's a great player, but mentally not as great as MJ, Magic, and Duncan. You can give him a pass all you want for 2007 and 2015, but 2011 was case closed. Remember all of the 4th quarter LeBron jokes?
MJ wouldn't have won with those scrubs
GTFO
Against this Warriors team?
I could see it. Cavaliers #1 weakness was consistent scoring. Enter MJ
Shaq and Hakeem are top tier.
He had Help LOL!! Their second best player was Knicks reject and outcast JR Smith..
Mosgov & Thompson > Green & Barnes
Yeah by all means lets poll NBA GM's..
Well the Cavs bigs were superior in the series.
Cavs starting lineup wasn't awful. Simply no depth off the bench.
Irving is a top 10 player in the league
No
Irving is a top 10 player in the league
I don't understand the obsession with Irving. We've seen this before
Marbury, Francis, Kenny Anderson, world b free, earl Monroe, Nate archibald. These are scoring pgs who, ultimately, do not make teams better.
Name 10 players that are better than Kyrie
comparing Kenny Anderson to Irving
Why don't we go ahead and compare patty mills to Irving and call it a day
Why don't we go ahead and compare patty mills to Irving and call it a day
Kenny was a fantastic talent tbh
Lebron
Curry
Harden
Davis
Chris Paul
Griffin
Aldridge
Lillard
John wall
Marc gasol
I'd also take kawhi, Duncan, cousins, mike Conley, and likely a few others before I pick Irving.
Andersons best season is better than kyrie's so far (still early). They have similar games with kyrie's being the better ball handler and Anderson the better pick and roller.
Why don't we go ahead and compare patty mills to Irving and call it a day
Anderson and Coleman was, at a time, the new age Stockton and Malone. Obviously never materialized, but you are really discrediting Kenny Anderson here. Or just that you don't remember the 90s much.
There you go being a certified dumbass again. They ARE ing all stars!
How much more help does he need?
so which is the bigger gap?
jordan vs lebron
jordan vs kobe
lebron vs kobe
atm i dont think kobe deserves any mention in comparison to the two players, dude is a 2nd banana in all his championship runs, and doesnt look like he be appearing or winning any time soon
Only spurstalk ...what a ty take but good and bad posters actually spew this .
As supporting casts? No, they aren't that good.There you go being a certified dumbass again. They ARE ing all stars!
How much more help does he need?
They do nothing to fill in the a team with Lebron on it.
A Lebron led team needs defensive players, and neither of them are it. It's like putting Kobe next to Mike in his prime, it's not really a good support for Mike, because he duplicates a lot of what Mike does, and does it worse. Or how Kevin Johnson was traded away because the Cavs had Mark Price.
Irving offensive skill set overlaps a lot of what Lebron does, and does it worse. Irving doesn't have the same abilities to involve teammates, he tends to hold on to the ball too long, and is primarily an ISO oriented player. Lebron could be that, and is much better than him at it.
Love rebounds well, but he is just a bad defender. He seems to have trouble grasping defensive concepts (I don't think it's a lack of effort).
If either of them can reinvent themselves and fill in a role, then great. If not, they are not great supporting casts, at least not specifically for Lebron.
kirby hasnt won without a dominant big..
if u say those dominant bigs havnt won in their lives, first of all how many of those ever thought about winning a championship?, im certain bynam and pau was happy the way they were playin and collecting paychecks, cause not everyone can ring..they accept the low standards in their careers
Kobe led the Lakers in win shares in the playoffs in 08-09. So yes he has been a top dog. Spurfan likes to spew about Big men on those Laker teams, yet dismiss the DPOY candidates through Duncan's career that he has had to guard the other team's best player.
Blah blah blah. Excuse excuse excuse.
The Cavs defense was fine. They surely could havd used Love and Irving because as LeHype's 38% shooting indicates, offense was absolutely needed when JR Clank and Chumpert went limp.
GM James has proven that without superstar help (Ray Allen, D-Whistle, Bosh e) or herculean efforts of scrubs (Battier), he won't win PERIOD.
He knew he needed Love and Irving. He kept saying "we are undermanned" -- who the was he talking about if not these 2 all stars? Clearly he values them more than you do. Unless you saying Coach James is the certified dumbass? If so, in this case only, you are not.
I get shaq led or at least was the more dominant player of the three-peat ... but to act as though Pau led the last two les is a ty take and shows how little you no hoops or how much bias blinds the weakminded.
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