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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    If she was hot enough sure. Deep down inside they all want the D. Rape is a legal fiction we made up to convince ourselves we're civilized, but, in the end, we're just animals.



    Ok. cool.
    The problem with legal rape is you can't really do it in a vacuum. Is it assault to knock her out first? Or is assault allowable as a precursor to sexual assault?

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    maybe, maybe not.

    But it's not until he's charged.



    How many laws actually prevent people from committing illegal acts?

    I can't think of any preventive criminal laws.
    Underage buying alcohol, felons buying weapons. They will still happen sometimes but they prevent a lot of people.

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    commenting on other posters looks is the last refuge of the defeated Blake.
    Blake is probably correct for once, though.

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    Uh it helps deter people from becoming criminals.

    Like you, Ripper.



    I'm specifically looking at the South Carolina policy that allows private sales of guns to happen without background checks.

    Cracking down on that bull policy would be a solid start here.
    i agree that would be a good law to change.

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    This is actually not true in South Carolina. It's only illegal if the person transferring the gun willfully knows that the receiving party is a felon. It's a loophole, and it obviously makes prosecuting a case like that much more complicated. This is why some states have started to require background checks even on private sales.
    Seems pretty easy to prove the father willfully knew his son was a felon. I've got no problem with the background check amongst private parties. I do it here a lot here in CA when selling to a private party as it required at a licensed FFL every time. Protects my ass as well when selling a gun.

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    This is actually not true in South Carolina. It's only illegal if the person transferring the gun willfully knows that the receiving party is a felon. It's a loophole, and it obviously makes prosecuting a case like that much more complicated. This is why some states have started to require background checks even on private sales.
    considering it is his son, i'm pretty sure he knew.

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    Seems pretty easy to prove the father willfully knew his son was a felon. I've got no problem with the background check amongst private parties. I do it here a lot here in CA when selling to a private party as it required at a licensed FFL every time. Protects my ass as well when selling a gun.
    considering it is his son, i'm pretty sure he knew.
    I'm not sure it's so easy. It could be if the father was present in some of his son's previous court appearances and the prosecutors can demonstrate that, but he could just as easily have not been. Once he claims he didn't know, the burden shifts to the prosecutors to prove otherwise. It can be a high bar, and it certainly moves the case from a sure fire prosecution to anything, really.

    I do agree that private to private background checks make sense. It might not have prevented this case, but it certainly would have made the conviction of the dad that provided the weapon a sure thing.

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    So every other country in Europe has a lower murder rate than that of the US.

    Hmm.
    Hmmm

    In over 52% of the murders in the US in 2011 in which the race of the murderer was known, the murderer was black. Over half of the victims of murder were also black. But blacks are only 13.6% of the population. Put all that together, and the murder rate in the US for non-blacks was more like 2.6 per 100,000 in 2011.

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    And?

    You can't separate them from America.

    Or do you want to?

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    And?

    You can't separate them from America.

    Or do you want to?
    If you are going to compare the murder rate in America to that of western Europe then you should at least acknowledge why the murder rate is higher here. Or is that racist?

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    his father gave it to him illegally and should be charged as such. No "new" law would have prevented an already illegal act. I don't see a single conservative defending this wtf are you talking about. And why do you refuse to defend your claim that he wasn't committing a crime while carrying a firearm as a felon? Are you just pretending you never said that do I need to quote it again?

    im not going to propose any new laws because I am aware they wouldn't have stopped his father from illegally giving him a gun. You on the other hand seem to have some law in mind that would have prevented this so what is this new law you propose?


    have you figured out its illegal for felons to own firearms in America yet?
    I thought you were done with me?

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    Roof Roommate Says Charleston Suspect Planned Shooting For 6 Months
    Source: Talking Points Memo retelling of ABC News

    The roommate of the white, 21-year old man who allegedly massacred nine people at a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina said Thursday that he thought the suspect had been planning the attack for about six months.

    Dalton Tyler told ABC News that he'd known Dylann Storm Roof for about seven months to a year. Tyler told the news outlet that he last saw Roof about a week ago and knew he'd been planning something like the Charleston church attack "for six months."

    “He was big into segregation and other stuff,” Tyler told ABC News. “He said he wanted to start a civil war. He said he was going to do something like that and then kill himself.”

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    commenting on other posters looks is the last refuge of the defeated Blake.
    Neh, just a sidebar on a crazy comment that you didn't think through before posting, Ripper.

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    If you are going to compare the murder rate in America to that of western Europe then you should at least acknowledge why the murder rate is higher here. Or is that racist?
    I don't know your motivations -- they could certainly be racist. Is race the only reason the hate is higher than that of many countries?

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    Oh he did legally buy a gun? Guess that changes nothing from the gun nuts, they'll obfuscate and come up with another excuse.

    Officials: Suspect bought a gun in April

    It's one thing to talk of stirring racial hatred, another to act on it to kill nine innocent people -- including the Rev. Clementa Pinckney, a state senator who had welcomed Roof into the Bible study session.

    One key part of this horrific scheme -- the weapon -- came in April, when Roof bought a .45-caliber handgun at a Charleston gun store, the two law enforcement officials told Perez and Bruer from CNN, the first network to report this development.

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    Hey Blizzardwizard, if gun control is the only answer to tragedies like this, how do you explain the heroism of Charl van Wyk, Jeanne Assam, and Terry Howell Sr. during similar attacks on churches?

    http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-cour...0#.VYN2H-d318o

    http://www.5280.com/magazine/2012/12...-still-waiting

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/flo...d-fire-church/
    Still no answer from the anti-gun nuts.

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    relax CN, they're not coming for your guns this time either.

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    Still no answer from the anti-gun nuts.
    Here's your answer, nut: http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ol-saves-lives

    Every country is unique, but Australia is more similar to the US than is, say, Japan or England. We have a frontier history and a strong gun culture. Each state and territory has its own gun laws, and in 1996 these varied widely between the jurisdictions. At that time Australia's firearm mortality rate per population was 2.6/100,000 – about one-quarter the US rate (pdf), according to data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics and the US Center for Disease Control. Today the rate is under 1/100,000 – less than one-tenth the US rate (pdf). Those figures refer to all gun deaths – homicide, suicide and unintentional. If we focus on gun homicide rates, the US outstrips Australia 30-fold.

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    relax CN, they're not coming for your guns this time either.
    I'm perfectly relaxed. I don't even own a gun myself, I just don't begrudge law-abiding citizens their cons utional rights.

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    That's a deflection, not an answer, and it was already addressed earlier in the thread.

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    I'm perfectly relaxed. I don't even own a gun myself, I just don't begrudge law-abiding citizens their cons utional rights.
    I don't begrudge anyone their cons utional rights; non-law abiding citizens have rights too.

    Gun control is politically impossible in the US for the present and probably for a long time.

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    I'm perfectly relaxed. I don't even own a gun myself, I just don't begrudge law-abiding citizens their cons utional rights which I approve of.
    fixed

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    That's a deflection, not an answer, and it was already addressed earlier in the thread.
    That is an answer. You can have strict, effective gun control and not outlaw guns, as has been successfully done in Australia. This kid walked into a gun store and out with a .45. A real background check would have prevented that from happening.

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    This kid walked into a gun store and out with a .45.
    where are you getting that from?

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