2015 Spurs NBA Draft Pick Thread

[RD2191]

By the way can people not ruin the draft this year by embedding woj tweets.

[Chinook]

As I've said before, I think the Spurs could get pretty high up in the draft by moving Mills/using cap space to take bad contracts. I sort of want them to go that route if Tim and Manu return. I'm also curious if Reggie Williams has a second, non-guaranteed year on his deal. Some sites say yes, but others don't.

Assuming yes, the Spurs can use both during the draft to take back as much as $7.5 Million. For example:

Spurs trade Mills and 26 to Washington for Webster, 19 and 49, then in a separate trade move Williams for Blair. The move saves the Wizards almost $10 Million while also giving them a good backup PG. Spurs get a decent shot at a top-15 talent falling to them while also getting a decent second (which they might be able to combine with 55 to get into the 40 range to pick another roster-caliber player). I don't know if Looney, Blair, Webster and Harrison is a better use of resources than Mills, Holmes a a few more million bucks would be. But I think it's up for debate.

Looking at this, I simply don't see anyone else on the roster who is really tradeable other than Patty. There is no Splitter replacement in draft outside the top 6 or in free agency outside Gasol. Diaw's value is relatively low since he has a bad history with fitting into locker rooms he doesn't like. After next season, he'll be a great asset, though. The rest of the guys are free agents, who don't have any value until July at the earliest and Anderson.

[TheGoldStandard]

Speaking of trading Splitter, found this random and likely unrealistic draft-night trade scenario:


First:

Wizards trade: Pick #19, Kris Humpries, Garrett Temple, 2018 & 2020 2nd round picks
for
Phoenix Suns: Archie Goodwin, TJ Warren, 2017 1st round pick (top 10 Protected), 2015 2nd round pick

From Wizards GM serdricacceus:

The Wizards need a little bit of youth and I'm assuming that Paul Pierce is leaving for LAC w/Doc. So I traded for a guy who can flat out score in Warren and an explosive rim player in Goodwin. Both of these guys still have room to grow as player but they can help grow the second unit as in the case for Goodwin, try to provide some relief for Beal as a backup.

Secondly:

Phoenix Suns trade: Pick #19, P.J. Tucker, Marcus Morris
for
San Antonio Spurs: Pick #26, Tiago Splitter

And with the 19th pick in the draft, GM ks10680 and the Spurs select:

19) Tyus Jones, PG from Duke



From GM ks10680:

I've traded Splitter and my 25 pick for Marcus Morris and Pj Tucker and the 19 pick. The reason why I made the decision to trade Splitter and my 25 pick to move up in for the 19 pick was to pick a guy I feel that could easily replace Tony Parker in the future that guy is Tyus Jones. I feel very comfortable taking this guy in the draft because if there's one thing we the Spurs organization do best is win. As the Spurs gm, I saw what the freshman PG was all about in the National Championship so I had to move up and draft him. He's the guy I've been looking to replace Tony. Our future is looking bright and I can't wait to see what Jones can do in the NBA. I'm looking for Marcus Morris to be a valuable role player that could learn alot from Boris Diaw and P.J. Tucker to step in to possibly replace Marco Bellinelli if we can't re-sign him.

http://trove.com/a/2015-GBB-Communit...utm_source=sns

Moving up 7 slots for splitter and then taking an undersized PG with a small frame and an average burst is not a good idea

[RD2191]

I'd only move Splitter if we could get into the top 10. Even then it would be high risk.

[raybies]

Turner as a splitter replacement? What if fell to 15? I doubt it but he might, I mean kawhi fell to 15. And reason I say 15 cause bud might like Splitter next Horford. Thoughts?

[BatManu20]

Here are the names I'm seeing most associated with the Spurs, via personal work outs & mocks:

NCAA's

1. Rashad Vaughn, SG UNLV
2. Montrezl Harrell, PF Louisville
3. Justin Anderson, SF UVA
4. Delon Wright, PG Utah
5. Anthony Brown, SF Stanford
6. J.P. Tokoto, UNC
7. Rakeem Christmas, PF Syracuse
8. Jordan Mickey, PF LSU

Euro's

1. Guillermo "Willy" Hernangomez, C
2. Cedi Osman, SF
3. Nikola Radicevic, PG
4. Janis Berzins, SF

[DPG21920]

As I've said before, I think the Spurs could get pretty high up in the draft by moving Mills/using cap space to take bad contracts. I sort of want them to go that route if Tim and Manu return. I'm also curious if Reggie Williams has a second, non-guaranteed year on his deal. Some sites say yes, but others don't.

Assuming yes, the Spurs can use both during the draft to take back as much as $7.5 Million. For example:

Spurs trade Mills and 26 to Washington for Webster, 19 and 49, then in a separate trade move Williams for Blair. The move saves the Wizards almost $10 Million while also giving them a good backup PG. Spurs get a decent shot at a top-15 talent falling to them while also getting a decent second (which they might be able to combine with 55 to get into the 40 range to pick another roster-caliber player). I don't know if Looney, Blair, Webster and Harrison is a better use of resources than Mills, Holmes a a few more million bucks would be. But I think it's up for debate.

Looking at this, I simply don't see anyone else on the roster who is really tradeable other than Patty. There is no Splitter replacement in draft outside the top 6 or in free agency outside Gasol. Diaw's value is relatively low since he has a bad history with fitting into locker rooms he doesn't like. After next season, he'll be a great asset, though. The rest of the guys are free agents, who don't have any value until July at the earliest and Anderson.

Would you trade Splitter for a lotter pick (or damn close) like ATL's if you knew you could sign Asik to replace Tiago?

[BatManu20]

PF Christian Wood, whose name I saw in many mocks going to the Spurs, is reportedly slipping down many draft boards after workouts. Draft Express dropped him from their 26th ranked prospect 2 weeks ago to number 41 this week.

[AFBlue]

Here are the names I'm seeing most associated with the Spurs, via personal work outs & mocks:

NCAA's

1. Rashad Vaughn, SG UNLV
2. Montrezl Harrell, PF Louisville
3. Justin Anderson, SF UVA
4. Delon Wright, PG Utah
5. Anthony Brown, SF Stanford
6. J.P. Tokoto, UNC
7. Rakeem Christmas, PF Syracuse
8. Jordan Mickey, PF LSU

Euro's

1. Guillermo "Willy" Hernangomez, C
2. Cedi Osman, SF
3. Nikola Radicevic, PG
4. Janis Berzins, SF

One other guy that has been mentioned in connection with the Spurs is Larry Nance Jr. They've also worked out Olivier Hanlan.

[BatManu20]

One other guy that has been mentioned in connection with the Spurs is Larry Nance Jr. They've also worked out Olivier Hanlan.

Yea they've worked out more players than who I mentioned, those are just the guys I've seen mentioned multiple times via mock drafts or work outs/interviews.

[AFBlue]

Yea they've worked out more players than who I mentioned, those are just the guys I've seen mentioned multiple times via mock drafts or work outs/interviews.

Can't recall the exact tweet, but there was one from Amico I think about teams in the late first being intrigued with Nance, especially the Spurs.

[TheGoldStandard]

Would you trade Splitter for a lotter pick (or damn close) like ATL's if you knew you could sign Asik to replace Tiago?

Nope Asik can't hit free throws and his pick n roll defense is suspect.

[TheGoldStandard]

I'd trade splitter to Sacramento though and paid him next to cousins for there pick in the lottery or try to move mills and 26 to get there pick.

[AFBlue]

The Hanlan thing was just because I feel like he's a Spurs-type pick (score first guard, international, nice size) and Ford said he was getting interest in the late first.

[Russ]

PF Christian Wood, whose name I saw in many mocks going to the Spurs, is reportedly slipping down many draft boards after workouts. Draft Express dropped him from their 26th ranked prospect 2 weeks ago to number 41 this week.

Excellent. Some guy named Kawhi kept slipping in the mocks (from about 6 to about 16) a few years ago.

[Ditty]

Wasn't Myles Turner considered a better prospect than Okafor coming out of high school? I'm a huge Splitter fan, but I would trade Splitter and the 26th pick for Turner in a heartbeat if it meant getting Aldridge and Asik, which would save us over $6 million if we acquired Myles Turner. Hopefully Spurs can poke someone's eye out like they did with Indiana .

[baseline bum]

I don't think it's likely that Tiago is traded in the draft, but I could see it for the right offer if FA is the way to go for them. Spurs aren't stupid though - they won't take a risk with much of a downside unless they are confident.

FA is likely not the way the Spurs go - they will likely do a S&T if they end up moving Tiago for Gasol/LMA.

I think a sign and trade would have to be something like Splitter and Green for Aldridge. The reason I think so is the Spurs won't be able to sign Aldridge outright without renouncing Green, assuming Splitter is still on the roster. So LMA's agent could tell Portland the Spurs are willing to renounce Green to sign him, in which case Portland asks for him in sign and trade with Splitter. If the Spurs balk Portland knows they're bluffing.

[DPG21920]

I think a sign and trade would have to be something like Splitter and Green for Aldridge. The reason I think so is the Spurs won't be able to sign Aldridge outright without renouncing Green, assuming Splitter is still on the roster. So LMA's agent could tell Portland the Spurs are willing to renounce Green to sign him, in which case Portland asks for him in sign and trade with Splitter. If the Spurs balk Portland knows they're bluffing.

No way the Spurs do that IMO. Splitter, yes, but not both. If the Spurs can clear the cap space (by trading Splitter) to sign LA outright, POR won't have any leverage.

[TheGoldStandard]

No way the Spurs do that IMO. Splitter, yes, but not both. If the Spurs can clear the cap space (by trading Splitter) to sign LA outright, POR won't have any leverage.

Which I would suspect during the draft if at all..

[Uriel]

Can't recall the exact tweet, but there was one from Amico I think about teams in the late first being intrigued with Nance, especially the Spurs.

[raybies]

Speaking of Christian Wood, I see him as a poor man's Anthony Davis. So incredibly raw. I just don't know if we are going for role players or swinging for the fences. I would hope we are not relying on free agency to save us, that doesn't really make sense. We are not a destination for free agents. We just aren't. Like non-destination teams, it's the draft and trades where we need to shine and have. If the Spurs don't go for a high upside player, I would think that's a sign that they have a good idea on where they stand in the market. Like many have said, what they do on draft night will indicate so much. If the Spurs don't know and plan to keep their plans open then i think we are just asking to be like what Houston was in last year's off season. I think we need to be decisive in our route. I expect there to be a Spurs trade on draft night. They set the bar the last time we were ousted in the first round. If there is a deal, they will do it. Even if it means letting go of a "favorite" or rotational player.

Houston got a potential lottery pick for Asik, so I would assume Splitter's value is around 15-20. Diaw is tricky cause he has had at ude problems with the wrong teams, so he would have to be dealt to a highly contending team like a Cleveland and I doubt that happens. So Diaw is likely not the guy. As for Patty, you could get a late first round pick for him but that would mean he's dealt to a really good Western Conference team basically. So his value is a high second round pick maybe and what lottery team needs a guy like Patty. Maybe a package with Splitter, but I don't see him moving. You can't really move Anderson, cause you don't know what you have yet. So maybe as trade filler, but I don't see the Spurs moving him.

One scenario i've been contemplating is Splitter and the 26th for the 15th pick if Turner falls. Hawks get Millsap insurance and a shot at getting a small forward for Demarre, while the Spurs get a stretch 5 that has rim protecting potential. I like how the Spurs cultivated Kawhi, maybe they can do it again. Or as mentioned maybe Phoenix might be interested.

We aren't really deep enough at center to not get one in return. And expecting to get a decent big in free agency is gonna cost money we don't have. Especially if Duncan and Ginobili return. I think if they are both returning Splitter is the guy that can be cashed in. Any value left in him?

Just some thoughts.

[TheGoldStandard]

Seems like an okay kid, if only he could soar like his dad

[BatManu20]

Speaking of Christian Wood, I see him as a poor man's Anthony Davis.

More like an AIDS/herpes/bubonic plague infested homeless man's Anthony Davis, tbh.

[AFBlue]

That's the one. Thanks!

[AFBlue]

I keep seeing this concept of Splitter for the 15th pick, but is Atlanta even in a position to absorb his contract? Putting aside whether a team would, I'm just wondering if Atlanta, or any mid-first round team for that matter could.