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    True so does Harden and plenty of others ...

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    Crab dribble is not a travel.

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    Crab dribble is not a travel.
    sometimes it is not often time it is. Just like the euro step ...Cant say either one is always a travel

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    steph curry travels all the time too. Some of the ways these guys get their shots off away from defenders is impossible without extra steps/shuffles.

    It's like "how the are you supposed to defend that if they're not gonna call travel!!"

    They've always been lenient on traveling, but damn it's getting bad now.

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    lot of push off james does

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    So Jackson was complaining about individualizing the sport with four guys standing around when Lebron had a regular season high usage rate of 33.8, postseason at 37.6, and the last series vs. Cleveland at 40.8, when
    - Kobe, under the coaching of Phil Jackson, had usage rates of 38.7, 35.7, 35.1 in three separate seasons.
    - Jordan, under the coaching of Phil Jackson, led the league in usage rates 7 times (including usage rates of 34.7, 33.7 twice, and 33.3), led the league in post season usage rate 5 out of the 6 times they rung (with a high of 38), and a usage rate of 38.9 vs. the Suns in the finals?

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    ^^this is classic phil hypocrisy...

    Call out others for the same thing he's doing did. I still remember him complaining about Frank Brickowskis goon tactics while having Rodman on his team.

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    lot of push off james does
    Did it to Iggy a ton this Finals and Kiwi last year ...

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    ^^this is classic phil hypocrisy...

    Call out others for the same thing he's doing did. I still remember him complaining about Frank Brickowskis goon tactics while having Rodman on his team.
    Or like ing about the refs when Kobe and MJ benefitted the most from superstar calls. He calls the lockout year an asterisk but shuts up about 2002. I remember him saying Nash gets away with carrying all the time. Phil is too hypocritical and petty for me to label him the GOAT of coaches.

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    So Jackson was complaining about individualizing the sport with four guys standing around when Lebron had a regular season high usage rate of 33.8, postseason at 37.6, and the last series vs. Cleveland at 40.8, when
    - Kobe, under the coaching of Phil Jackson, had usage rates of 38.7, 35.7, 35.1 in three separate seasons.
    - Jordan, under the coaching of Phil Jackson, led the league in usage rates 7 times (including usage rates of 34.7, 33.7 twice, and 33.3), led the league in post season usage rate 5 out of the 6 times they rung (with a high of 38), and a usage rate of 38.9 vs. the Suns in the finals?
    PJ is a egotist, asshole and hypocrite. None of that changes the rings on his fingers ...

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    PJ is a egotist, asshole and hypocrite. None of that changes the rings on his fingers ...


    Ring talk again. For someone with his ego, it's hilarious how he could get on his knees about some of the best players who carried him to rings. He did it to Jordan and did it to Shaq. That guy is one spineless man.

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    Or like ing about the refs when Kobe and MJ benefitted the most from superstar calls. He calls the lockout year an asterisk but shuts up about 2002. I remember him saying Nash gets away with carrying all the time. Phil is too hypocritical and petty for me to label him the GOAT of coaches.
    Pop sits his starters during prime time games. He es and moans to the league about other teams trades. It doesn't get more petty than that. But I'm sure you didn't have Pop as GOAT coaches.

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    PJ is a egotist, asshole and hypocrite. None of that changes the rings on his fingers ...
    Or anyone else's...

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    Ring talk again. For someone with his ego, it's hilarious how he could get on his knees about some of the best players who carried him to rings. He did it to Jordan and did it to Shaq. That guy is one spineless man.
    Because in the end it is what matters. I will never forgive his ass for pushing out West but bottomline is we short 5 without him ...
    I wouldnt want him as an employer ... but as a fan of the team he gets results like PArcells on Steroids.
    Pop treats reporters like and yall forgive him because he wins ...

    In the end amb, it's what matters. rings.

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    Because in the end it is what matters. I will never forgive his ass for pushing out West but bottomline is we short 5 without him ...
    I wouldnt want him as an employer ... but as a fan of the team he gets results like PArcells on Steroids.
    Pop treats reporters like and yall forgive him because he wins ...

    In the end amb, it's what matters. rings.
    Reporters need to be treated like . PJ had nothing to do with West leaving.

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    "Only pussies and assholes complain about the officiating"

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    "Only pussies and assholes complain about the officiating"
    LOL

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    Reporters need to be treated like . PJ had nothing to do with West leaving.
    bull . Unless you claim West is lying but all evidence points to him being right about Phil.
    Click here.

    Phil kicked him out of the lockerroom tried to show west who was boss and besides he was banging the bosses daughter ...

    Jackson famously demanded West leave the Laker locker room following a game, using an expletive in the process (Kawakami quotes it in his excerpt). In Jackson's defense, he's long championed the idea that the players and coaching staff should be a very insular group, even to the point of excluding significant team personnel. In West's defense, Phil didn't have to be a jerk about it.

    grateful for the 5 he helped deliver but he will never be higher than West or Riles in Lakers lore (for me).

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    Pop sits his starters during prime time games. He es and moans to the league about other teams trades. It doesn't get more petty than that. But I'm sure you didn't have Pop as GOAT coaches.
    I never expected you to get sarcasm and comments in jest.

    Do they have sarcasm and comments in jest in Naruto?

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    “The game actually has some beauty to it, and we’ve kind of taken some of that out of it to make it individualized,” Jackson said. “It’s a lot of who we are as a country, individualized stuff.”Indeed, Jackson seems much less concerned with validating the triangle than with the state of the game itself.
    “When I watch some of these playoff games, and I look at what’s being run out there, as what people call an offense, it’s really quite remarkable to see how far our game has fallen from a team game,” Jackson said. “Four guys stand around watching one guy dribble a basketball.”
    in Legend

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    Because in the end it is what matters. I will never forgive his ass for pushing out West but bottomline is we short 5 without him ...
    I wouldnt want him as an employer ... but as a fan of the team he gets results like PArcells on Steroids.
    Pop treats reporters like and yall forgive him because he wins ...

    In the end amb, it's what matters. rings.
    Rings is what matters, but you are assuming that Phil is the only one who can make things happen with those rosters, and that is not true.

    In fact, an argument could be made that Jackson cost the Lakers rings by further dividing the rift between Shaq and Kobe, ending in the breakup of the team. Shaq still had a couple of good years left, and Kobe was starting to peak, if they managed the ego correctly, the Lakers may be able to squeeze a couple more rings from it.

    His work in 09 and 10 was great though, not too many people have the ability to really run the offense through the oversized frontline and giving all the credit to Kobe, making Kobe think that he was the main reason for the wins and satisfy his ego that way. Perhaps he learned from the Shaq-Kobe feud.

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    bull . Unless you claim West is lying but all evidence points to him being right about Phil.
    Click here.

    Phil kicked him out of the lockerroom tried to show west who was boss and besides he was banging the bosses daughter ...

    Jackson famously demanded West leave the Laker locker room following a game, using an expletive in the process (Kawakami quotes it in his excerpt). In Jackson's defense, he's long championed the idea that the players and coaching staff should be a very insular group, even to the point of excluding significant team personnel. In West's defense, Phil didn't have to be a jerk about it.

    grateful for the 5 he helped deliver but he will never be higher than West or Riles in Lakers lore (for me).
    If what West says is true then he's weaker than I thought. I'm under the impression that he wanted to be compensated for rebuilding the team by adding Shaq, Rice and Kobe. But even worse... Dr. Buss was leaning towards transitioning the teams responsibilities to his sorry ass children. West was a visionary... but I'm not buying the story about him claiming he left the team because PJ didn't speak to him in the morning and kicked him and Mitch out of the locker room.

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