rumors are the both The Indian and The Old Lesbian are to recommend removing the stars and bars from state grounds.
rumors were accurate
Can't find the article, but the Confederate flag was not a big deal in the 19th century, but became a big deal in the 20th as KKK, white supremacists, and PROGRESSIVE policies protecting, enabling, enfranchising, blacks.
In short, the 20th century Confederate flag really is all about about racism.
Because of det Civil War, no.
Fox News Gets Desperate and Calls The Confederate Flag The Flag Of The Democratic Party
Fox News host Andrea Tantaros said, “You know what baffles the mind? This isn’t a Republican flag. Historically this was the flag of southern Democrats, remember that, fact? I find this flag offensive. This flag represents the fight in slavery, and it was a flag that the southern Democrats — Democrats — used to fly against Northern Republicans so I’m not sure why Republicans are getting peppered over this.”
Tantaros brought up an old time favorite misleading statement by the right. Southerners did support the Democratic Party, but what Fox News likes to leave out is that racist ideological strain left the Democratic Party and moved over to the Republicans during the Civil Rights movement.
It is ridiculous for anyone to claim that the Confederate flag is the flag of the party that is led by the nation’s first African-American president. It is even more absurd for Fox News to ignore the fact that it was Republicans who supported flying the Confederate flag over the state capitol.Republicans are getting hammered for this because they are the party that pushed for the Confederate flag as a symbol of “Southern heritage.” The Confederate flag is not a Republican flag or a Democratic flag. It is a symbol of slavery, racism and hate.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/...iticus+USA+%29
Fox Repug Propaganda network: a powerful magnet attracting dumb es.
As we've heard here ST, it was the Repugs who passed the progressive policies of the '60s over the Dems, and it was Republican Lincoln who emancipated the blacks.
Thanks Obama!
The flag is almost certainly coming down now.
Mississippi might take a little bit longer to crack given that it's within the state's state flag.
And given that Mississippi, breathtakingly, didn't bother to legislatively approve the 13th Amendment until 1995 and didn't actually ratify it until 2013.
Walmart Becomes The First Store To Remove All Confederate Flag Merchandise
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/22/walmart-leads-pack-remove-confederate-flag-merchanidse.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium= feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28P oliticus+USA+%29
That's pretty shocking. I figured that was like half their business in Alabama and Mississippi. LOL
a cheap trick, costs WM nothing, but may send bubbas, rednecks, kickers, neoConfederates, and other losers to dollar stores.
When all else fails blame PC
In Virginia, the last governor (now heading to prision for two years for corruption) declared a "Confederate History Month" didn't even acknowledge slavery. Kind of illustrates some of southern mentality towards the Confederacy. "its all about heritage not hate" except they gloss over selling and owning slaves and terrorizing them for more than a century after they became free.
ing should have never been flown again officially in the US. Might as well fly an Isis flag.
"South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley (R) called for the Confederate flag to be removed from the state capitol."
"That flag, while an integral part of our past, does not represent the future of our great state," Haley said Monday."
"Haley argued that many South Carolinians see the Confederate flag as a way to respect their ancestors, but argued Dylann Roof, who was charged with murdering nine people in a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, last week, "has a sick and twisted view of the flag."
Roof interpreted the meaning of the flag just fine. Flag has always represented hatred.
Mississippi and Tennessee debating over taking down the flag now.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7641512.html
The hits keep on coming.
http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/2...orse-traveller
When all else fails blame PC
yes because we all know the elephant in the room is that if everyone up in arms about this invested their time instead into professional and skill development they'd do much more for themselves as a collective unit. ie: chinese, Indians, etc. but I digress...that flag is hypnotizing everyone into racial warfare...of course it makes sense.
the true structure of repression is that we've persuaded that everyone has a handicap of some sort and should devote a significant amount of their effort in exercising it.
funny what people take on "symbols". if I flew stars and bars, noone would care because they wouldn't know the difference.
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Why The Confederate Battle Flag Is Even More Racist Than You Think
Champions of the battle flag argue “it’s not a racial thing,” but it’s tough to deny the pattern has strong links to slavery.
Those who believe slavery was not a central point of conflict in the Civil War may wish to peruse the
South Carolina,
Georgia,
Mississippi and
Texas declarations of secession.
Those do ents all explicitly cite threats to slavery as reasons for secession. Mississippi's declaration goes so far as to say that “a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization.”
Pulitzer Prize-winning author James McPherson, as quoted by the Civil War Trust, explains:McPherson adds that the government refused to recognize the secession because they feared it would result in the U.S. turning into "several small, squabbling countries."
The Civil War started because of uncompromising differences between the free and slave states over the power of the national government to prohibit slavery in the territories that had not yet become states.
It was not until long after the Civil War ended, however, that the battle flag began to take on even stronger connections to racial injustice.
In the late 1940s, the flag was adopted as a symbol of the Dixiecrats -- a political party devoted to, among other things, maintaining segregation. They also opposed President Harry S. Truman’s proposals to instate anti-discrimination laws and make lynching a federal crime.
Some of the Dixiecrats went so far as to declare their commitment to “white supremacy,” according to The Confederate Battle Flag: America’s Most Embattled Emblem by John M. Coski.
Coski writes that though the Dixiecrats soon faded into obscurity, their campaigns “made the flag a fixture in places where it had been only a novelty before.” Coski gives the example of the University of Mississippi, which he notes rarely used the battle flag as a symbol prior to 1948. He says the university began heavily incorporating the symbol into school activities and events a few months after students protested against Truman’s civil rights proposals.
Notably, Ole Miss is the same ins ution that erupted into riots in 1962 when the federal government insisted that the school accept a black student.
In 1963, the year after the Ole Miss riot, Alabama Gov. George Wallace raised the flagover the state Capitol in protest against desegregation, as described by the Georgia State Senate Research Office in a 2000 report.
The same report found that the integration of the battle flag into the Georgia state flag in 1956 was racially motivated. When the pattern was incorporated into Georgia's flag, the researchers wrote, the state “was in a desperate situation to preserve segregation.”
They went on to say:The flag has also periodically been flown by the Ku Klux Klan -- though to be fair, so has the United States flag.
Resisting, avoiding, undermining, and cir venting integration was the 1956 General Assembly’s primary objective. The adoption of the battle flag was an integral, albeit small, part of this resistance.
Though some people may genuinely feel that the Dixie flag represents their Southern heritage or commemorates those who lost their lives in battle, the reality is that in far more recent history, the flag has been used as an explicit symbol of racism and racial inequality.
That’s why, as John Oliver says, it should be lowered not just to half-staff, but all the way off of the Columbia flagpole.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0....html?ir=Crime
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EBay bans sales of Confederate flags, related merchandise
http://www.cnet.com/news/ebay-bans-s...tag=CAD090e536
Many in Nation Tired of Explaining Things to Idiots
MINNEAPOLIS (The Borowitz Report)—Many Americans are tired of explaining things to idiots, particularly when the things in question are so painfully obvious, a new poll indicates.
According to the poll, conducted by the University of Minnesota’s Opinion Research Ins ute, while millions have been vexed for some time by their failure to explain incredibly basic information to dolts, that frustration has now reached a breaking point.
Of the many obvious things that people are sick and tired of trying to get through the skulls of stupid people, the fact that climate change will cause catastrophic habitat destruction and devastating extinctions tops the list, with a majority saying that they will no longer bother trying to explain this to cretins.
Coming in a close second, statistical proof that gun control has reduced gun deaths in countries around the world is something that a significant number of those polled have given up attempting to break down for morons.
Finally, a majority said that trying to make idiots understand why a flag that symbolizes bigotry and hatred has no business flying over a state capitol only makes the person attempting to explain this want to put his or her fist through a wall.
In a result that suggests a dismal future for the practice of explaining things to idiots, an overwhelming number of those polled said that they were considering abandoning such attempts altogether, with a broad majority agreeing with the statement, “This country is exhausting.”
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borow...NzAyODAyMDAxS0
lol, what is the argument here? It's too much effort to bring down a racist flag (i.e., the confederate battle flag)?yes because we all know the elephant in the room is that if everyone up in arms about this invested their time instead into professional and skill development they'd do much more for themselves as a collective unit. ie: chinese, Indians, etc. but I digress...that flag is hypnotizing everyone into racial warfare...of course it makes sense.
the true structure of repression is that we've persuaded that everyone has a handicap of some sort and should devote a significant amount of their effort in exercising it.
funny what people take on "symbols". if I flew stars and bars, noone would care because they wouldn't know the difference.
This kid looks hypnotized by the racist ideology that the Confederate flag represents (whether it be the pro-slavery south of the civil war era or the pro-segregationist south of the civil rights movement era).
no, the confederate flag should have been taken down during reconstruction IMO, but to make the whole shooting issue about confederate flags is woefully missing the point. it's not about confederate flags, it's about the whole black vs. white conversation, and it needs to stop. we need to see it as coming together as a nation rather than dividing people and using the "white" symbol (confederate flag, apparently?) as some sort of crusade against.
this is that the media is fueling, and y'all are eating it up one story at a time.
confederate battle flag, Southern traditions, honor the dead rebels wasted in a war they started but couldn't fininsh. All bull .
Post WWII, the stars and bars is the battle flag of racists, KKK, hate groups
not really. i think the confederate flag should get the swastika treatment IMO. rebs lost fair and square. but it's crazy that news outlets jumped on the flag after the shooting like they had that card to play the whole time for potential headlines. they were just waiting for the right cover story to roll with it. and it worked. genius, imo.
The black vs. white conversation is perfectly illustrated in the Confederate flag argument. And I'm seeing a lot of surprising racial unity when it comes to removing it. That's a good thing, even if it's an inanimate object, it's still an argument that we're finally about to stop having... It's a sign that White America is not only ready to acknowledge the sins of our past, they're also willing to stop clinging to an inanimate object that memorializes those sins.
Last edited by Spurminator; 06-23-2015 at 01:50 PM.
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