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    A healthy and effective Tiago in the post-season is a fluke. It's wonderful when it happens, but you sure can't count on him.
    it doesn't help that moon face wasted 2 perfectly healthy Splitter post seasons by prefering to play McDyess, Blair and other scrubs

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    Likely better value in a 2016 first rounder anyway. Why would they trade for a pick this year unless they loved someone at that spot + without any guarantee from LMA? Might as well wait and see if it happens.

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    I don't see a landing spot for Splitter outside of Atlanta, who can't take him as they don't have Carrolls bird rights. He's only worthwhile for a contender, and I don't know which contender needs him. The Bucks need size to compliment the front court duo of Giannis/Parker and have cap room, also the Celtics is an option but it sounds like they'll be chasing free agents.

    Top 20 protected pick from Bucks would be a good deal.

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    What about amnestying Tiago? I doubt it would happen this year but next year could be a possibility...eating one year of salary might be worth it if there is a max player willing to come on board.

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    What about amnestying Tiago? I doubt it would happen this year but next year could be a possibility...eating one year of salary might be worth it if there is a max player willing to come on board.
    Are you serious? Tiago has a great contract for a big. Only reason he hasn't been traded is (1) they haven't gotten ideal package, (2) Spurs don't have leverage here because teams know they need to clear room for LMA or (3) LMA isn't in the cards and they're rolling with the same roster.

    Not to mention nobody on the roster can be amnestied anymore.

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    Are you serious? Tiago has a great contract for a big. Only reason he hasn't been traded is (1) they haven't gotten ideal package, (2) Spurs don't have leverage here because teams know they need to clear room for LMA or (3) LMA isn't in the cards and they're rolling with the same roster.

    Not to mention nobody on the roster can be amnestied anymore.
    He's paid more than Boris, which shouldn't be the case. Then you have Green who is 3x the player splitter is, so I assume that Green has to get more than 8.5 a year, right? Same with Patty, and virtually everyone else. , he only made 1.5 less than Tim, and has probably been 1/50th of the player.

    Tiago should have been signed and traded when his stock was high. He is never a standalone, or centerpiece. Why go balls deep for someone who is so dependent on MULTIPLE other players to be semi productive?

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    The issue is nobody in the league needs him. They may like what he does but at the end of the day he's not going to be dealt unless we include something else.

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    The issue is nobody in the league needs him. They may like what he does but at the end of the day he's not going to be dealt unless we include something else.
    Lol. He could be traded for other salary easily . The issue is trying to salary dump. Getting a 2016 pick is probably the cost now.

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    Tiagos salary is a positive for any team taking him.

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    Tiagos salary is a positive for any team taking him.
    Exactly. Once free agency passes, he is a HUGE asset at his salary. Issue is, teams have the Spurs by their balls right now because they know they need to clear cap space.

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    Exactly. Once free agency passes, he is a HUGE asset at his salary. Issue is, teams have the Spurs by their balls right now because they know they need to clear cap space.
    There is also some chance lma, deandre, or love are willing to sign for random teams. Once that shakes down teams will look at tiago. But just think, this draft has a lot of value in the mid teens to early 20s. So teams over valued their picks. That hurt the spurs odds of getting a higher pick. Also their decision not to take salary probably fits here

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    It has been widely assumed in league circles that the Spurs would be forced to try to trade veteran forward Tiago Splitter to help create the needed salary-cap flexibility to handle the max deals San Antonio has earmarked for Leonard (and the likes of Aldridge or Memphis' Marc Gasol) and still have room to accommodate Duncan and Ginobili at reduced salaries, if the latter two choose to play on. But sources told ESPN.com that the Spurs actually rebuffed trade interest from teams hoping to pry Splitter away in conjunction with Thursday's NBA draft, raising the possibility that Splitter might stick around.

    The futures are less clear for Spurs sharpshooters Danny Green and Marco Belinelli, two unrestricted free agents who played pivotal roles off the bench in helping San Antonio make back-to-back trips to the NBA Finals in 2013 and 2014 -- and win it all in '14 in a second consecutive Finals showdown with the Miami Heat.
    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13...9th-nba-season

    thinking we had to use the draft pick to 'dump' Splitter.

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    One option to create flexibility would be to deal Tiago Splitter, who earns $8.5 million next season. However, Stein reports that the Spurs rebuffed offers for Splitter during Thursday's draft.

    But the Spurs will likely part ways with their other free agents, which includes Cory Joseph, Marco Belinelli, and Danny Green. There's simply not enough money to re-sign everyone.

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    I'd have to think Splitter has a lot of value. He's cheap for his position, is a fine defender, doesn't make waves. He's injury prone, sure, but he's a championship level center.

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    I definitely don't wanna see him go unless we get LMA/Marc Gasol.

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    Since Philly is stockpiling centers, we should trade Splitter for the rights to Dario Saric.

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    I definitely don't wanna see him go unless we get LMA/Marc Gasol.
    Agreed

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13...9th-nba-season

    thinking we had to use the draft pick to 'dump' Splitter.
    The wording of Stein's article says nothing about whether the Spurs would be the one giving up the draft pick or the other way around. For all you know, other teams' GM's called up RC and said, "We'll take Splitter off your hands if you give us your first round pick." That would be still be considered rebuffing "trade interest from teams hoping to pry Splitter away in conjunction with Thursday's NBA draft."

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    The wording of Stein's article says nothing about whether the Spurs would be the one giving up the draft pick or the other way around. For all you know, other teams' GM's called up RC and said, "We'll take Splitter off your hands if you give us your first round pick." That would be still be considered rebuffing "trade interest from teams hoping to pry Splitter away in conjunction with Thursday's NBA draft."
    Your interpretation flies in the face of common sense. Only bad contracts require sweeteners. Trust me, splitter is sweet enough. The issue is that the spurs and v other teams have specific timing. There's no rush until closer to the FA signing period

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    The wording of Stein's article says nothing about whether the Spurs would be the one giving up the draft pick or the other way around. For all you know, other teams' GM's called up RC and said, "We'll take Splitter off your hands if you give us your first round pick." That would be still be considered rebuffing "trade interest from teams hoping to pry Splitter away in conjunction with Thursday's NBA draft."
    Multiple teams bid. You can try and mitigate it all you like.

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    nobody wants this pos. Vasquez and hardaway can be traded but not this dip .
    You are clueless. We know that the Spurs rebuffed offers for him on draft night. It is clear to anyone with half a brain that the Spurs will be doing a sign -and -trade for Aldridge using Splitter. This may give them the chance to keep Green.

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    I think nobody is taking into account that given how last playoffs panned out and with lots of injuries, injury prone players may not get the most attention this year.

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    I think nobody is taking into account that given how last playoffs panned out and with lots of injuries, injury prone players may not get the most attention this year.
    Do you mean they will discount the injuries or discount the players? I

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    But SA has to deal him before they sign Aldridge, no?

    So a trade has to be either tonight or the day Aldridge is sign and traded to SA.

    This hypothetical is if Aldridge comes to SA, which isn't likely because Murphys Law always prevails with SA and Free Agency.
    Unless he's involved in a sign and trade, technically yes, but they could (and will, if he commits) still reach a verbal agreement with Aldridge first before pulling the trigger on a Splitter trade.

    In the Duncan era, the Spurs have only been in this position once and this is different than '03, for all the reasons that have been discussed ad nauseam, plus one that hasn't: The Spurs' credibility has never been greater.

    Almost all the other misses were predictable, but this one isn't. It doesn't necessarily mean it'll work out, but every credible indication we have suggests something is going to have to change for it not to.

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    Unless he's involved in a sign and trade, technically yes, but they could (and will, if he commits) still reach a verbal agreement with Aldridge first before pulling the trigger. I don't know why anyone ever thought there was/is even a chance of Splitter being traded before this.

    In the Duncan era, the Spurs have only been in this position once and this is different than '03, for all the reasons that have been discussed ad nauseam, plus one that hasn't: The Spurs' credibility has never been greater.

    Almost all the other misses were predictable, like the Gasol one last summer. He was never coming for the MLE, to play an ancillary role offensively and guard PF's. This one is the exact opposite. It doesn't necessarily mean it'll work out, but every credible indication we have suggests something is going to have to change for him not to.
    Fully agree. To base trading a player based on the rumor of LMA coming would be ignorant. Sounds like something the Mavs and Hou would do (i.e. clearing cap room for Howard, etc.) and then leaving w/an empty weakened roster when they don't sign lol!

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