So if Danny's gone, the contingency plan is ?????

[AFBlue]

Is this yet another debate of his worth, or an actual discussion of other players that could realistically full his role. If it's the latter, I'd prefer to trade Splitter to address the issue of Danny leaving. That opens up the options for replacement significantly.

[tmtcsc]

Also, I don't understand why people seem to want Kawhi to be the only wing defender on the team..half this forum(myself included) has complained about his offensive role, yet some of you want him to exert all his energy on defense, next season(which would be the case if Green is gone)?

It's 2015, having 2 capable wing defenders is more important than ever..the Warriors have 2 of them and also have Draymond Green that can cover some wing players, too..

The Spurs already saw a huge defensive drop-off in all their 5-man units that didn't feature Kawhi and/or Green, their bench wings have struggled on defense for the past 2-3 years, I don't know why the team would make it even more difficult on themselves by losing one of the only 2 reliable wing defenders on the roster..

You make it seem like the Spurs aren't going to try to fill his position with anyone else. Perhaps they can get Aminu cheaper than DG.

[Malik Hairston]

The addition of Kawhi and Splitter plus the resurgence of Duncan.

You were just crediting the system for the defensive success of the Spurs..you also downplay Kawhi's impact, all the time, too..

[benefactor]

ing Christ are some of you the result of dad ing one of his sisters?

[raybies]

Saying he isn't as good as Finals MVP Iguodala and max contract Klay Thompson isn't really an insult, tbh..

And I agree that Matthews was better, but he was projected to receive near-max prior to his injury, an even bigger payday than Green..players with Matthews' injury don't recover well, though, based on past examples, he's probably finished as a high-level role player IMO..

Afflalo hasn't been a good defender since his 1st year in Denver, I'd rather have Beli, tbh..

And in all fairness, he could have been a finals MVP had we won and if he made a couple more threes over the last two games. So there's that.

My point is the money Andre and Klay are getting in the scenario he gets some crazy offer.

[Buddy Mignon]

True. The biggest free agents we've ever landed were Derek Anderson and Brent Barry!

[Malik Hairston]

You make it seem like the Spurs aren't going to try to fill his position with anyone else. Perhaps they can get Aminu cheaper than DG.

The problem is that SG is the worst and shallowest position in basketball, the alternatives are scarce..not to mention the difficulty in building chemistry and fit that the Spurs built with Green for the past 4 years..

Aminu sounds nice, but he's a SF/PF like Kawhi, and he's a 27% 3-point shooter..

[Chinook]

Are there any stats to show how many times he fumbled the ball trying to complete a layup or how many times Pop took him out because of a defensive mistake or how many times he attempted a pass that didn't reach its target or how many times he was run off the three point line and jacked up a leaning three pointer or how many times he drove to the lane and couldn't complete the layup because of his inability to finish or how about being on the floor in the last minutes of the game instead of a 37 year old back up SG?

Yes, there are stats for all of those, except Pop pulling him. As far as I know, stupid coaching moves aren't an official stat in anyone's book yet.

[raybies]

Aron Afflalo

Why does that ty name keep popping up as a Green replacement?

Because he could be a bargain. You don't think he could benefit from having a rim protector like Duncan or a wing defender like Leonard.

Value.

[Malik Hairston]

Yes, there are stats for all of those, except Pop pulling him. As far as I know, stupid coaching moves aren't an official stat in anyone's book yet.

A lot of posters complained about Green playing too much down the stretch in these playoffs when he was struggling, actually, so Pop wasn't really benching him this time IIRC..

[timtonymanu]

That's my issue with green. As good as he can look sometimes on defense he makes big mistakes as well. I feel his defense is overrated by some here.

His lack of ability in dribbling and making a lap is so frustrating. I just don't remember when green became apart of of or big 3?

smh @ posters that think our SG needs to be a creator and scorer. Just doesn't ing fit the current system for the Spurs. Leonard might as well not get any touches if Green were to be an efficient scorer. You don't ditch Green because he doesn't fit that criteria, you keep him for his elite defense (even with his mistakes) especially against opposing PGs which he is the best in the league at.

[tmtcsc]

If DG leaves, the Spurs offense will be adjusted again. As much as the 3 point production is nice, it will be comforting to know that Aldridge (assuming he comes here) will be available for higher percentage shots. They would still have Mills and Leonard too. Id hope the Spurs don't look for a 3 pt shooting SG to replace Danny but rather a more defensive minded player.

[Malik Hairston]

Anyways, while I disagree with it and hope it doesn't occur, I can fully understand the Spurs letting Green walk if they can acquire Aldridge..when you can have a top 20 player in the NBA, especially in San Antonio, you take it IMO..

I don't expect it to happen, though..I still think Green will be a Spur next year, even with Aldridge on the roster..

[therealtruth]

DG would have been the hero of game 7 against the Clippers if TP didn't happen.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

That all sounds nice, but it's pretty much all slanted incorrectly.

First, the Spurs have the space to run a motion offense because of their shooting, not the other way around. It's Green's gravity that opens driving lanes and clears the paint for post-ups. Having a non-shooter out there would mean that the Spurs would never be able to drive and kick like they do now. No one doubts Danny mainly shoots when he's open (almost everyone who plays on a good team does), but his quick release and smart movement changes what conditions cons ute being open in the first place.

Second, there are plenty of ways to get shooters open that don't require having a complex offense. Having post players or just stars in general will open up looks because those players force doubles. OKC ran a terrible offense under Brooks, but they had no issues getting open looks for their role-players.

Third, Green and Leonard aren't taking risk with their man defense. They funnel guys to Duncan almost perfectly every time. Duncan makes the rotation he's supposed to because that's how the defense is supposed to work. But setting up their men like they do, Danny and Kawhi let Duncan work in a phone booth, where he's still arguably the best defender in the league. When you don't have those guys defending, when the opposing players are actually beating the Spurs wings, Duncan has to play in space, which is usually a disaster nowadays. That's what was happening for most of the Dallas series. You're right that Green will look worse on a team with a less development defensive iden y, but he will still look better than the players around him.

In 2009-10 when the Spurs played the Suns in the second of the playoffs they were swept because they had shooters. Unfortunately, on their pick and roll offense the bigs were Duncan, Bonner, and McDyess. None of these bigs were good at going to rim after setting a pick. The suns knew this and all of their players just collapse on D and protect lane. This made it diffficult for Parker and Manu to get to basket. When Parker or Manu made a pass to the three point line Suns defenders could challenge shot because they knew that the Spurs were not athletic enough to get to rim. It's a different defensive mindset when you are challenging a shot and don't have to worry about your player driving to basket. Defending the three is easy as you do not have to chop your steps.
After this loss is when Pop started to change his offensive mindset and bring in players that were bettter suited for a motion offense.

Green and Kawhi funneling players to Duncan is taking a risk as most players are taught not to leave baseline open. Spurs players are often taught the opposite. Green is often on the offensive players hip at a right angle which is not the way players are taught. AGain this is because of spurs defensive schemes and Duncan. Other teams except for Memphis and Chicago just do not have the same team defense mindset.

[tmtcsc]

I would like to see Danny Green stay for 8 million per. Perhaps sign a 3 year contract with player option in year 3. How feasible is that with getting LA?

[Nathan89]

Is this yet another debate of his worth, or an actual discussion of other players that could realistically full his role. If it's the latter, I'd prefer to trade Splitter to address the issue of Danny leaving. That opens up the options for replacement significantly.

This is a must if Green leaves. We can't have 4 talented bigs and no sgs. Not sure who I would target though.

[Nathan89]

I would like to see Danny Green stay for 8 million per. Perhaps sign a 3 year contract with player option in year 3. How feasible is that with getting LA?

Green isn't getting only 8 mil.

[Mugen]

I would like to see Danny Green stay for 8 million per. Perhaps sign a 3 year contract with player option in year 3. How feasible is that with getting LA?

Not very when guys like Jodie Meeks got 3yr/19 mil tbh. Green will get at least 11-12mil per year this summer.

[BatManu20]

I would like to see Danny Green stay for 8 million per. Perhaps sign a 3 year contract with player option in year 3. How feasible is that with getting LA?

It's not. Green is going to get offer(s) of at least $10 Million per, maybe more.

[Nathan89]

If DG leaves, the Spurs offense will be adjusted again. As much as the 3 point production is nice, it will be comforting to know that Aldridge (assuming he comes here) will be available for higher percentage shots. They would still have Mills and Leonard too. Id hope the Spurs don't look for a 3 pt shooting SG to replace Danny but rather a more defensive minded player.

The player would have have some three point shooting abilities. Can't play a non-shooting sg next to our pg.

[ducks]

Could green sign a 4 year deal for 32 million with an player opt next year cap go up and Duncan and manu both will retire then

[palangi]

smh @ posters that think our SG needs to be a creator and scorer. Just doesn't ing fit the current system for the Spurs. Leonard might as well not get any touches if Green were to be an efficient scorer. You don't ditch Green because he doesn't fit that criteria, you keep him for his elite defense (even with his mistakes) especially against opposing PGs which he is the best in the league at.

Ginobli?

[DJR210]

Green needs to not be a got and give the Spurs a huge hometown discount to stay.

[palangi]

I would like to see Danny Green stay for 8 million per. Perhaps sign a 3 year contract with player option in year 3. How feasible is that with getting LA?

If we could keep him for 7 or 8 million I would down