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    I think Manu is gone. Why would you "announce" that you are coming back? You announce that you are retiring.
    Hopefully he's announcing that this upcoming season will be his final year, it's plausible IMO..

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    Most of what you said actually doesn't make sense. But the bolded part is what I'll address. Splitter and Mills make $12 Million together, and Reggie Williams has a non-guaranteed contract worth a bit over a million. So the Spurs can send back about $13.2 Million using those three guys, which means LMA can sign a deal starting at $18.3. Not the full max, but definitely close enough.
    what salaries are assumed for Duncan and Gino in this scenario

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    Gaining lma but losing splitter and green leaves the team worse off than before. A team with lma, duncan, parker, scrub sg, and kawhi ain't winning a le. Maybe if tim was in his prime but not right now. No way in . Spurs have better shot at ringing if they keep the team as is. Imo.

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    what salaries are assumed for Duncan and Gino in this scenario
    It doesn't matter with the slight caveat that the Spurs don't cross the apron (unlikely at that stage of the off-season but definitely in play later on). That's a sign-and-trade scenario, so there's not cap consideration.

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    NBA Lockdown's latest podcast is worth a listen. Marc Stein basically confirms that all signs lead to Aldridge picking the Spurs. The Mavs chasing Deandre Jordan basically confirms it as well.

    Just give it time IMO. PATFO didn't draft a guy similar to Tiago's skill set for no reason, and I'm sure they have a trading partner lined up when it's time.
    I didn't hear one thing that led me to believe that. The Mavs will chase any free agent that breaths. They didn't say anything of the sort. Focus was primarily Laker-centric in regards to Aldridge.

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    Uhh. Okay.


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    Shams is my go to guy for insider news. Jk.

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    I didn't hear one thing that led me to believe that. The Mavs will chase any free agent that breaths. They didn't say anything of the sort. Focus was primarily Laker-centric in regards to Aldridge.
    Stein said that he doesn't see Aldridge going back to Portland, also stated that the Lakers aren't really an attractive team to him because they won't contend. He basically said it's going down to the 3 Texas teams.. San Antonio which he has on top of his list, Dallas who has the money but wouldn't know how him and Dirk can play together, and Houston which he doubts because LA doesn't want to be second tier to Harden (reason why he wants out of Portland in the first place)

    The Mavs chasing Jordan part, I included myself. They got Parsons recruiting him already and Jordan would make way more sense if they plan on starting Dirk.

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    Shams is up there with tspence.

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    Shams is my go to guy for insider news. Jk.
    IMHO

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    If Manu retires and the Spurs end up losing out on Aldridge/Danny, then Tim better get Kirby money this year tbh.

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    There's no doubt that if what he wants is stability, then the Spurs are probably the best destination for him. Stability and winning not always go hand in hand though.

    Frankly, a lot of the FO 'awesomeness' comes directly from Tim, tbh... from still wanting to be coached, to taking paycuts for the benefit of the team, to having an elite HoF player like him makes it much easier to make do with subpar talent.

    I think the FO will be heavily tested in the upcoming years once TD hangs them up, that's why I'm saying there's a lot of questions looming, especially when you have to commit to a team for the next 5-6 years.
    You're right, that Timmy deserves a lot of credit for making PATFO look brilliant, but PATFO did engineer the trade for Leonard, so there's that.

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    maybe if he has some "interest" in playing for the raptors partly because the east is such a joke.

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    Keeping the MLE and BAE is also a key difference.
    Absolutely. I was only referring to the certain part of the question, but no doubt doing a S&T is the optimal way to go for the reasons you listed. It would be amazing if Holt & Co were willing to really pony up the dough to keep Green and use the MLE as well. What a team they could build if they were allowed to do that.

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    the ing raptors? i knew it... we had no chance.

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    Stein confirming this - kind of annoying from LMA. I mean, I get weighing options but taking meetings from everyone?

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    ^ not coming, Deepy. Sorry but if he actually wanted to win a championship (biggest selling point the Spurs have over any other team sans maybe Houston) then he won't be taking a sit down with the f'n Raptors.

    Unless, this just wanted some free poutine, he ain't comin'....

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    Aren't you guys happy Spurs rejected trade offers for Splitter now? I knew LMA would pull a stunt like this.

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    Portland was interested in splitter when they were contending. ...why would they want him and his contract, in a rebuild?
    Because their plan is likely to re-build, while attempting to remain as compe ive as possible.

    Splitter and Mills: Quality role players, in their prime, value contracts, fill immediate needs and strong re-sale value.

    Then there's the 1st round pick, which they would more than likely demand, plus the fact that they're unlikely to do better in free agency and if they do, they'll likely have to overpay.


    Why do people keep saying "if he wants to win, he should pick the Spurs", tbh? The Spurs long term outlook is pretty bleak at the moment, IMO, you have a ball dominant PG (something LMA is already running away from) on the wrong side of 30, injury prone and out of shape to put it mildly locked up at a contract that limits flexibility, two aged veterans that make up the backbone of the team close to retirement, Green might walk, picked nobody that matters on the draft, a FO that's generally reluctant to make big trades... is Pop gonna stick around for the next 5-6 years? I think there's a lot of questions...
    Because, like most professional athletes, he wants to win, but probably only if it's on his terms. The Spurs can offer him arguably the best immediate opportunity and a solid one beyond next season (if they can retain Green and either this off season or next, find an eventual placeholder starter at C, they'll remain one of the better teams). But unlike the Rockets, for example, they don't have a ball dominant superstar, who'd relegate him to a secondary role and get the majority of the credit for it, if they do.

    So even though Leonard, at some point in the near future, will become the clear best player on the team, he's not a prototypical go-to player in game or personality. Aldridge could have the top usage, score the most and receive all of the accolades that come along with that.

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    how many times he is a fa?
    I can see him wanting to sit down with teams that can offer the max
    just doubt he would go there

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    meltdown is going to be worth it tbh

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    Raptors!?!? Well I guess they did make the playoffs and are on the weaker conference. Like I said before the longer LMA takes to make his decision the less likely he will choose SA....July 1st cant come soon enough!

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    Manu visited Denver while a FA. Had no real intentions of going there. Smart to keep options open. Also to keep some control over negotiation.

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    Raptors seem fine, but that's really far from Texas. I don't see it. No southern American is going to want to play in the great white north. And it's not like their max is better than ours.

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    Stein confirming this - kind of annoying from LMA. I mean, I get weighing options but taking meetings from everyone?

    just go after Milsap, keep everyone else. Don't have time for this dude talking to anyone with bank. Pass on it.

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