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Dam Chinook lol
PER
Marco 20.7
Danny10.5
OWS
Marco .5
Danny .1
DWS
Marco 0
Danny .2
WS
Marco .5
Danny .2
WS/48
Marco .215
Danny .053
OBPM
Marco 6.3
Danny -.7
DBPM
Marco -1
Danny 2.9
BPM
Marco 5.4
Danny 2.2
VORP
Marco .2
Danny .2
Many stats show that Marco was superior to Danny during this year's playoffs, yet many Spurs fans think that Green deserves 5-6 times the pay that Marco receives.
Thoughts?
Dam Chinook lol
Well, he is not a 12 million dollar guy.
Were you thinking to yourself that Neal deserved an exponential raise in comparison to Manu after the 2013 Finals?
Lol using a microscopic sample size. Another tholdren special.
so you're saying a 7 game slump wouldn't be enough for a coach to make a change? Look at this year, everyone saw that Tony was being outplayed by Mills. Small sample size, but I think if Mills got the minutes SA would have won. I think that if Joseph got Parker's minutes, we would have won. Small sample size, but it was big enough to know that Parker should have been benched.
LOL at deflection
Both regular seasons and last year's playoffs, a much bigger sample, show exactly the opposite is true.
Green didn't have a seven-game slump. He shot at least 50 percent from the field in three of those games. Danny had an abysmal Game One, which strongly directed his series numbers. And no, Pop wouldn't bench Green for seven poor games, seeing as Green is known to be incredibly streaky.
Half a season is hardly the same thing as a seven-game series, especially given the fact that Green was significantly better than Marco defensively. Parker wasn't doing anything on either end.Look at this year, everyone saw that Tony was being outplayed by Mills.
Mills got plenty of burn, but he couldn't stop Austin Freaking Rivers from going HAM on him.Small sample size, but I think if Mills got the minutes SA would have won.
I pretty much agree with this.I think that if Joseph got Parker's minutes, we would have won.
Parker had a whole season of awful play to help us come to that conclusion. If he were at his 2011 best for the RS and then off the playoffs, staying with him would have been totally justified.Small sample size, but it was big enough to know that Parker should have been benched.
Lol at picking a sample size that supports your point. Green had a superior Game Seven to Marco and a far superior season as a whole, but you pick seven games where Danny was slumping offensively to try to prove your point. It's just absurd. Anyone can get stats to support their view if they don't care about confidence intervals.LOL at deflection
Bellineli was on fire in the playoffs.
1. If he's streaky, why does sample size matter anyway? Everyone's numbers will equal out the more you shoot.
2. Im not talking half a season, Im talking playoffs.
3. Rivers scored on anyone who defended him one game. Patty played more of a role taking the series to 7 than danny did, not sure how you can dispute that.
4. I disagree, and that's just a coaching difference, I would play the hot hand in the playoffs, rather than loyalty; sample size 1Q or 82 games.
5. You can be a regular season hero or playoff hero. Im with the latter.
- You can't equate regular season stats with playoff stats, its a different animal. Next, Im not sure you can think that with the exit of Tim and Manu, and the slowing down of Tony that our starting 2 won't have to pick up the scoring load and get more defensive pressure. Danny had his chance to show his worth as not a 4th or 5th option lingering on the three point line, but as the offensive player on the team. He was thoroughly outplayed on the offensive end the whole series by marco and patty. So, your theory is to pay him 2-3 times more than the two players who outperformed him combined? Again, I'm semi-down for giving Green 10 million, but not at the expense of letting 2 players who out-performed him go.
Should we play the 7 game sample size game? We could produce some extremely outrageous results all over NBA history, tbh
But he did do bad and the spurs live for the playoffs. You can't just ignore these stats.Should we play the 7 game sample size game? We could produce some extremely outrageous results all over NBA history, tbh
If we're judging Green strictly by his playoffs history, especially in isolated series' of choice, then he's probably one of the 5-7 best role players of the modern era, tbh
It's a flawed argument on both ends..
It would almost be like you really smart people who:Should we play the 7 game sample size game? We could produce some extremely outrageous results all over NBA history, tbh
Refer to plus minus as a reliable and valid piece of data after a game
With a negative correlation between the 3 years. Like a decline.If we're judging Green strictly by his playoffs history, then he's probably one of the 5-7 best role players of the modern era, tbh
None of us cite +/- data based on 1 game, though..
He is. Because teams are willing to pay him that much.
It would be the equivalent of him making $8.5 million this past season when compared to the percentage of cap.
He'd only be making 13.5% of the cap and considering he's an elite shooter and of the best 2 guards defensively, he's worth it. That percentage continues to drop as the cap rises. I could see a 4 year $44 million dollar offer from S.A though
Green was better in 2014 than he was in 2013, people just remember the hot Finals series..
Its almost as amusing as watching people use advanced stats in the first place.If we're judging Green strictly by his playoffs history, especially in isolated series' of choice, then he's probably one of the 5-7 best role players of the modern era, tbh
It's a flawed argument on both ends..
Tell that to the majority of current NBA organizations, including the defending champions
doesn't matter if you use plus minus a million times, its not reliable, or valid.
There are many forms of on/off numbers that are valuable and accurate if you use them correctly and with proper context, tbh..
lol there are many things that you cannot use advanced stats for, but people are still trying to sell the cogs and widgets model to many human aspects.Tell that to the majority of current NBA organizations, including the defending champions
I need some RPM. I'm to lazy to look right now. Even if it was a little bit better he did decline to tomato can status in the playoffs. He is a really really streaky shooter. One night 60% and the other 20%.
He can rarely ever just be solid.
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