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From what I remember, Aldridge and Mills were good friends when Mills was up in Portland a few years ago. Maybe it would be enough to get LMA to take a small pay cut to keep Mills.
The Spurs salary dumping Splitter just dramatically increased the possibility of the Spurs signing Aldridge. This thread can be used to hash out the cap numbers and provide clarity on the Spurs' position.
Current projected cap: 67.1 million w/ possible $1-2 million extra
Tony Parker 13,437,500
Boris Diaw 7,500,000
Patty Mills 3,578,947
Kyle Anderson 1,142,800
Tim Duncan 6,000,000 (rumored re-sign)
Danny Green 7,647,500 (cap hold)
Kawhi Leonard 7,235,148 (cap hold)
Min Hold 525,093
Min Hold 525,093
Min Hold 525,093
Min Hold 525,093
Min Hold 525,093
Total: 49,167,360
Room Available: 17,932,640
Aldridge max: 18,830,000
Cory Joseph 5,058,153 (QO)
Manu Ginobili room exception?
Notes:
- Not entirely sure why the Spurs extended a QO to Joseph since that is a huge amount of cap space. I think they can always just renounce him to make room for Aldrdige.
- Ginobili will need to be renounced and come back for a room exception if he does not retire. Ginobili really needs to come back to make this roster championship-level.
- Spurs are going to be short even after renouncing Ginobili and re-signing Duncan to a very discounted contract. The Spurs might have to give up Mills or miraculously find a way to dump Anderson. I don't want the Spurs to give up Mills... rather try to get Aldridge to take a small pay cut.
- If the cap does increase $1-2 million, the min cap holds and Aldridge's max will increase as well won't they? I don't know if the cap increasing will help much if at all. Sportswriters are saying it will help so I will assume they are correct. If it does rise, then Aldridge might not need to take a discount.
I am not entirely sure how accurate these numbers are since I got them through a variety of sources.
From what I remember, Aldridge and Mills were good friends when Mills was up in Portland a few years ago. Maybe it would be enough to get LMA to take a small pay cut to keep Mills.
Duncan, being the badass that he is, would probably massage his salary as needed to make the puzzle pieces fit.
Thanks for putting this together. Really helps to have something updated for us to look at.
Anyway, it really comes down to how much Tim is taking. He can totally make the room for LMA himself. He can make the room for Cory AND LMA himself if he takes the min. We'll have to see.
There's no doubt Duncan and Gino will take what's left to make this work what great teammates
Another thing I wonder is what is the Spurs' plan B? They seemed to have salary dumped Splitter pretty quickly. At first I thought the Spurs already received something of a commitment but Aldridge still seems to be considering more money with the Blazers. And then also the Spurs extended a QO to Joseph... so they definitely don't have a commitment yet. Who are the Spurs going to get with the extra space if Aldridge doesn't jump ship?
Tim taking a miniscule salary will probably generate dozens of salad-tossing articles from the media for the next few weeks, tbh, especially if the Lakers don't acquire a marquee free agent..
If lma doesn't come it's strange indeed
In this scenario Gino's cap hold is at 0 because the Spurs have to renounce him. And Duncan is taking a significant pay cut. I honestly don't want Duncan to take any less. Other players should be taking the pay cut.
...and then does it come down to filling out the roster with vet's signed to league minimum contracts (such as LeBron's standard entourage...the Miller's, Marion's, Jones) and/or signing your own FA's to similar deals as they had before?
Ex. the Boozer rumor = league minimum (provided he stays clear of the hair paint can)
RIP Gino.
Joseph can't accept that deal until the 9th, and by then the Spurs can renounce him if they're not using him in a sign and trade. Also the actual cap is thought to be $1 million to $2 million higher than $67.1 million projection.
Best case scenario: re-sign Ginobili with room exception, Bonner returns for min and that will be 10/12 spots filled. The Spurs can fill the other 2 spots with a vet big and vet wing. The Spurs will then have a Duncan/Aldridge/Leonard/Green/Parker starting 5 with Ginobili, Diaw, Mills, Bonner, Anderson + 2 min contracts coming off the bench. That at least starts to look championship worthy.
Isn't Diaw at $7.0MM?
And what's your source on Joseph's QO? I had it at $3,034,891.
Can the spurs let Duncan go, and re-sign him using the MLE? (Similar to the suggestion that they do this with Manu using the Room Mid-level exception)
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/
It's the cap hold for the QO, not the actual number of the QO.
No. If you use cap room, you don't have the MLE. You have the Room exception instead.
this cap projection increase would be a great news to give Spurs flexibility to not give up Paty / Cory
They can't keep Joseph if they get Aldridge, I can't see any way to make the numbers work short of Duncan taking minimum or the exception everyone is penciling in for Ginobili right now. Portland will probably want him in sign and trade if the Spurs can get a commitment from Aldridge, and it would be doing CoJo a solid to let him get 7.5% raises in Portland as opposed to renouncing him and the Blazers being able to only offer 4.5% raises.
Thanks. I forgot that this particular 250% rule applies instead of the QO.
It probably doesn't matter, though. Neither number will probably apply if the Spurs are getting LMA.
You don't get the raises in S&Ts either. Anyway, since the Spurs know Tim's not going anywhere, they can totally sit on Cory's deal for a while and see what happens. Maybe Tim really is fine with the min, in which case, the Spurs have a ton of leverage.
I think it will depend on how Tim's new contract will be structured but yes most likely scenario Cory is gone, this cap increase would be tho a good news to keep Paty and or both depending on Tim
the better version of what I'm saying
Holt should pay tax this year.
yup... what ever duncan and ginobili makes... should be paid also in luxury taxes.
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