Cory is pretty much a goner if the Spurs want Aldridge. Patty can yet be saved.
Not only that, but the difference between 4.5% and 7.5% raises are insignificant for a guy who isn't making max money. Starting at $5mm year 1, the difference is under $1mm over a four year deal ($22.365 vs. $21.390 million). You'd essentially be able to bridge the difference by offering $5.2mm instead in year 1 ... only matters if trying to squeeze in under cap.
Would make a difference though if teams are planning on giving him the full MLE.
Cory is pretty much a goner if the Spurs want Aldridge. Patty can yet be saved.
They still have the MLE. It's not over at Aldridge. Patty isn't going anywhere.
if i'm correct, we can match cojo's offer and go over the cap with it, so he's not really relevant in the LA discussion.
I am assuming the room exception will be used on Manu. Don't know if it will go to Joseph since the room exception is like $2-3 million. Joseph can get more than that. Rather have Manu back anyways.
If you are thinking about the full MLE, that is not available to teams under the cap.
No, right now Joseph's cap hold is at $5 million. He must be renounced to make room for a LMA max. One his rights are renounced, Joseph will be a free agent and the Spurs will have no cap space to re-sign him.
Room exception is not the MLE. That report has Manu signing for $2.8m. MLE was pushing $6m last year.
Nope. They're going to have to renounce Joseph to sign Aldridge with cap space. (Unless Tim plays for the minimum.)
What if they trade Mills? Could they keep Joseph then?
Why would you want CoJo over Mills?
And if they do not use the room exception then the MLE becomes available when they sign aldridge and go over the cap.
They should be able to push it up near the apron if they want.
plot twist: They don't let the cap jump next year![]()
Nope. It's very simple. In order for a team to use cap space to sign free agents, they lose the MLE. It doesn't matter if they subsequently go over the cap. In one NBA year, a team can use cap space or the MLE. Never both.
Do you have a source for that? What you quoted is not relevant.
The MLE is only available for teams over the cap. As it stands, the Spurs are under the cap because they will use cap space to outright sign Aldridge. Therefore the Spurs only get the room exception. No articles I've read have the Spurs getting this full MLE. It makes sense, a team can't sign big name free agents and still have the full MLE to work with afterwards.
And the determination is made when the exception is used. IOW, you get only one of the 3 MLE's.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25
Given what it says when it was determined so if we do not use it on Manu now then we can use it after presumably Aldridge, KL, and Green sign and we are in the midlevel range. At that point the apron will act as a hard cap.
Alright well the faq is ambiguous then.
nm I kept reading:
If a team is below the cap, then its Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level (either the Taxpayer or Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, whichever applies to the team) and/or trade exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap1. This is to prevent a loophole, in a manner similar to free agent amounts (see question number 39).
Perhaps, but it's cap space or MLE, never both.
It's more like you get one exception based on where you start at or you get no exception at all.
I'm curious to see what they do with those remaining spots. Belli and Baynes most certainly need to renounced to make the salaries work. We could match an offer Joseph gets presumably.
If a team uses cap space, they get the room exception. If a team is over the cap they get the non-taxpayer or taxpayer MLE.
If Aldridge is signed with cap space, Joseph will almost certainly be renounced. The only way to keep him would be if Duncan played for the room exception or for the minimum.
Signing Aldridge will cost multiple role players from last year's team. Players that will have to be replaced by minimum salary players.
That is what I just said. Thanks for the discussion though.
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