Roster - Remaining Spots

[HarlemHeat37]

We'd have to be a strong player for the buy out market now too

This is another reason I'd rather go with younger guys, right now, rather than signing washed-up scrubs like Butler or Prince..

Give younger guys a chance for the first half of the season, and if a vet that still has some game gets bought out in February or whenever, sign him up..

[Chinook]

If not there is no hold.

Yeah, there is. Because a buyout is a player's choice, not a team's choice. So if LJC wants to play for the Spurs, he can accept his tender even if the Spurs don't help with a buyout (which is at best negligible, because LJC signed for Parker's team specifically to be pipelined to the Spurs). Moveover, this is the final year he's able to get the two guaranteed years. He's coming over, and the Spurs need to account for his hold.

[HarlemHeat37]

Imagine the scowls if the Spurs could sign West and Perkins to minimum contracts for the bench.

Perkins? Why?

[ChumpDumper]

Imagine the scowls if the Spurs could sign West and Perkins to minimum contracts for the bench.

A little pipe dreamy. Once that fourth big spot is filled I don't see other decent vets clamoring for the fifth spot for basically no pay.

[dbestpro]

Perkins? Why?

It's always nice to have a bully come in of the bench. Need a backup center, and he would fit that mold.

[Chinook]

I agree that we don't know what Tim is going to play for, but they can hardly renounce him. That would really limit their options. They can take their time a bit this week to work on the remaining pieces.

Renouncing Tim is a good thing, because it allows them to use that cap space on whatever they want during the off-season. They'll have to do so or give him a new contract in five days if they want to sign LMA. Leaving that hold is not an option outside of a sign-and-trade.

[TheGoldStandard]

Perkins? Why?

Someone's gotta wash LaMarcus car

[Marcus Bryant]

Yeah, there is. Because a buyout is a player's choice, not a team's choice. So if LJC wants to play for the Spurs, he can accept his tender even if the Spurs don't help with a buyout (which is at best negligible, because LJC signed for Parker's team specifically to be pipelined to the Spurs). Moveover, this is the final year he's able to get the two guaranteed years. He's coming over, and the Spurs need to account for his hold.

It counts once his contract ends.

[ChumpDumper]

Renouncing Tim is a good thing, because it allows them to use that cap space on whatever they want during the off-season. They'll have to do so or give him a new contract in five days if they want to sign LMA. Leaving that hold is not an option outside of a sign-and-trade.

But they would have to use cap space to re-sign Tim and that would restart the clock on any Bird rights scheme to pay him more down the line.

I don't see the advantage.

[Chinook]

But they would have to use cap space to re-sign Tim and that would restart the clock on any Bird rights scheme to pay him more down the line.

I don't see the advantage.

No, that's not how it works. Bird right only reset if a player signs on with another team. Renouncing doesn't eliminate that.

[Ocotillo]

I would imagine one of the things LMA wanted cleared up when he had the second meeting with Pop was what was the plan for filling out the roster. I'd like to know what he was told.

[SpursFanInAustin]

Nazr Mohammed as that 5th big to use up fouls on Gasol and Howard?

[ChumpDumper]

No, that's not how it works. Bird right only reset if a player signs on with another team. Renouncing doesn't eliminate that.

Ok, so what is the advantage if he still has to be signed with cap room?

[SpursFan86]

Milutinov is in SA, fwiw (probably nothing). Wonder if there's any chance at all he ends up coming over this season. Guessing not.

[jhfenton]

Renouncing Tim is a good thing, because it allows them to use that cap space on whatever they want during the off-season. They'll have to do so or give him a new contract in five days if they want to sign LMA. Leaving that hold is not an option outside of a sign-and-trade.

I see what you're saying. Renounce him, but still sign him under cap space before they ink Kawhi and DG. You're right.

Or sign him first. I don't see that it matters.

[TheGoldStandard]

Milutinov is in SA, fwiw (probably nothing). Wonder if there's any chance at all he ends up coming over this season. Guessing not.

He needed to get evaluated as well as go through all the logistics of what they plan for him but it could very well mean that he could end up being at camp this season and making the team. They need a big

[Chinook]

It counts once his contract ends.

Again, no.

From the CBA FAQ:

An unsigned first round pick is removed from team salary if the team and player both agree in writing not to sign any contract through the following June 30.

You have to guarantee it for a year, not just at the moment.

[Chinook]

Ok, so what is the advantage if he still has to be signed with cap room?

They can use that cap space on Joseph's QO/hold, which forces teams to engage the Spurs in a sign-and-trade. Then they can renounce him and either sign him to the room exception or let him go. It's not a bad deal.

[Mikeanaro]

No Rin please, thanks.

[ChumpDumper]

They can use that cap space on Joseph's QO/hold, which forces teams to engage the Spurs in a sign-and-trade.

That doesn't force other teams to do anything.

Then they can renounce him and either sign him to the room exception or let him go. It's not a bad deal.

Currently the plan seems to be signing another big with the room exception.

There are lots of moving parts here but if LA's deal is set, they can work with the timing of that and other deals to maximize potential space. I don't see how renouncing anyone they want to keep achieves that though -- except Manu I guess. But i know all about the cap anymore.

[Marcus Bryant]

Nazr Mohammed as that 5th big to use up fouls on Gasol and Howard?

Something like that. What matters more in a 5th big, ability to spread the floor or dole out punishment?

[HarlemHeat37]

Something like that. What matters more in a 5th big, ability to spread the floor or dole out punishment?

I'd rather just keep Bonner as 5th big, tbh, doesn't seem like he's ready to retire..

[ElNono]

ElNono do something

still waiting here... maybe Manu for the vet min?

[Mr. Body]

This is the first year I've ever actively wanted Bonner on the team.

[Chinook]

That doesn't force other teams to do anything.

If they want Joseph when the Spurs still have his QO, they have to engage in a sign-and-trade to get him for sure. No one knows what Tim is willing to play for, so the Spurs matching Cory is really possible. It may discourage offers altogether, which would allow the Spurs to use the room exception on him later in the off-season.

Currently the plan seems to be signing another big with the room exception.

Have they said that? The only news I've heard is that they wanted West for the min.