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    Just sad mid...just sad...

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    1ST BALLOT HOF Buddy Mignon's Avatar
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    My point Mid is win or lose its not worth sacrificing that much money 2 or 3 million meh ok...but 10..get the outta here...and as much as I rag on Tammy I'm being serious now..I actually feel sorry for the dude..he wants white acceptance so bad he's willing to give back by my estimates 40 million on top of pros uting his booty hole out to whitey
    They won't win .

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    You guys make it sound like David West is moving into a studio apartment and planning on eating nothing but ramen and chicken noodle soup. He has more money than he'll ever need. He's rich, and he'll always be rich. He wants a ring, like Magic Johnson.
    Its irresponsible...winning a dam basketball game is not that serious....those rings are worth .000000010 TH of what that ing fool gave up....hey look it's a good pickup by the Spurs but gotdam...just embarrassing as a black man....I'm going to hide in the closet

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    My point Mid is win or lose its not worth sacrificing that much money 2 or 3 million meh ok...but 10..get the outta here...and as much as I rag on Tammy I'm being serious now..I actually feel sorry for the dude..he wants white acceptance so bad he's willing to give back by my estimates 40 million on top of pros uting his booty hole out to whitey
    I think West has made 80 million throughout his career. He's probably made a little off endorsements, as well. Let's say he has 40ish million in the bank and in assets (obviously he didn't see that full 80 million because of taxes), another 6 million is not going to change his lifestyle at all.

    He obviously saved smartly, or he'd be chasing the money. So at this stage, a le opportunity is more important to him.

    Stay mad, though, as Kobe continues to hamper your payroll

    And....


    Roy Hibbert

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    Its irresponsible...winning a dam basketball game is not that serious....those rings are worth .000000010 TH of what that ing fool gave up....hey look it's a good pickup by the Spurs but gotdam...just embarrassing as a black man....I'm going to hide in the closet
    West saving his money so he has the luxury to ring chase is the an hesis of black man behavior.

    A "real" black man would've blown the cash on frivolous crap, like your boy Iverson who is flat broke and probably sells crack now.

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    Kirbyfan loves takin it raw by his contract

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    Just keeping it real...If Tammy and West gave up 10 million each to play for vet minimums with no guarantee they will win a le..then it just shows how stupid some black people are..and it shows why white people laugh at us....it's all about risk factor...sure they have a decent team but the risk is age and injury...what if they don't win...that's 1O million down the drain...I dont care how much money you have..it's just stupid and it's why black atheletes go broke...to be honest it's embarrassing as a black man....white people don't do pass up on money like that...win or lose they are some dumb assses...that's not how the rich get richer...this dude has only made 87 million and he gave up 10..Man I hope they lose on the principal alone...10 million over the possibility of a gotdam ring? Wow
    How many NBA championships have you won?





























































































































    lol

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    I think West has made 80 million throughout his career. He's probably made a little off endorsements, as well. Let's say he has 40ish million in the bank and in assets (obviously he didn't see that full 80 million because of taxes), another 6 million is not going to change his lifestyle at all.

    He obviously saved smartly, or he'd be chasing the money. So at this stage, a le opportunity is more important to him.
    He has made $87.6 million in his career.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../westda01.html

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    Just keeping it real...If Tammy and West gave up 10 million each to play for vet minimums with no guarantee they will win a le..then it just shows how stupid some black people are..and it shows why white people laugh at us....it's all about risk factor...sure they have a decent team but the risk is age and injury...what if they don't win...that's 1O million down the drain...I dont care how much money you have..it's just stupid and it's why black atheletes go broke...to be honest it's embarrassing as a black man....white people don't do pass up on money like that...win or lose they are some dumb assses...that's not how the rich get richer...this dude has only made 87 million and he gave up 10..Man I hope they lose on the principal alone...10 million over the possibility of a gotdam ring? Wow

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    OP would his mom and sisters if someone pays him enough $ to do so, tbh, dude has no faith so he will never understand the decisions Tim and West made tbh.

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    West will become the spokesman for WEST business services in San Antonio and make up some millions.

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    Pacers' David West lives life the right way: his way

    Everything about David West depends on perspective.


    To a second-year player still learning the NBA, the veteran power forward who "knows weird stuff" was someone to avoid.


    To a reporter who called him "well spoken" without realizing what a slap to the face that is, he was intimidating.


    And to those teammates who met him on his first day with the Indiana Pacers in 2011, his expression as serious as a drill sergeant and his cold gaze daring the brave ones to make eye contact, he was distant and aloof.


    But in reality — and try not to faint from sheer shock — David West is candid and passionate.


    Just ask him about how he sees the world and his role in it. Ask him about New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina. Listen while his voice quickens and even breaks.

    He will tell you there was a time when he felt like a foreigner in the sometimes-superficial world called the NBA. The locker room isn't always a breeding ground for free thinkers and the team plane may not necessarily be the place to read a book of essays written by a Folsom State prisoner. West was disconnected and it affected him on the court.


    Then, West gained perspective. He started living life, as he describes it, the right way.


    His way.


    "I'm just not going to be the typical NBA guy," West said. "I'm just not going to let myself become a part of that. I'm always going to stand up and I'm always going to stand apart of this group that I don't necessarily feel like I identify with wholly."


    "This is the true joy in life, the being used for a purpose recognized by yourself as a mighty one…"


    His way is no nonsense, and it has worked.


    In 11 years in the NBA, West has career averages of 15.9 points, 7.2 rebounds, two All-Star Game appearances and the reputation of being a fully grown man. He plays like a throwback post player — all butt and body, bruising opponents on the block — and when it's on, his jump shot from the elbow can be counted for two points as soon as it leaves his hand.


    Shaped out of experiences in Teaneck, N.J., West found this way in his own bloodline: a role model and a sports icon; the worker and the basketball player.


    Amos West never made more than $30,000 a year while delivering letters throughout Bergen County. Yet he and wife Harriett provided the example of what hard work looked like to their four children. She also was employed at the post office and if she had to open every canned food in the house to feed the kids, she would. He was the postal supervisor, in the Army Reserve, a deacon, a Sunday school superintendent, a radio DJ. And anytime the family visited their folks in North Carolina, the next morning he was up at dawn to cut the grass, put up a basketball goal and hunt rabbits for supper.


    "People in the South eat rabbits," West confirmed, laughing.

    In 1986 when a young man up the block from where the family lived was shot in the back by a police officer, Mr. Amos, as the neighborhood kids called him, marched in the rally protesting the shooting — and brought young David along with him.


    "I'm 6 years old!" West said. "And so my whole sort of seriousness of life was right there in my face at a very young age."


    Dwayne West was 16 years old and already an established hoops star when his younger brother, David, was born.


    "Me dragging him along to my games," Dwayne remembers, "and having him cry on the sideline. I couldn't play in peace because he wanted to go to the bathroom, or he's ready to go."


    After Dwayne returned home from captaining then-Jersey City State College to its first NCAA Division III Final Four, he instilled a playbook in David. Every time Dwayne yelled out "One!" that meant drop step. "Two," drop step and half hook. "Three," drop step, fake and shot. And there wasn't a number for this, but always go to that jumper. That was established early when Mr. Amos put up a backboard and rim in the backyard driveway that had the most space where the left elbow of a free throw line would be on a real court.


    That sweet midrange jumper stayed with West when the family moved to Raleigh, N.C., before his junior year of high school. He wasn't heavily recruited out of Garner Magnet High School, a slight that was never more evident than the time West and a friend sneaked into the North Carolina State gym for a pickup game and ran into an overzealous NBA player.


    After beating the pro's team in the first game, West and his five rolled through the compe ion until the player — one year removed from winning an NBA le — came back on and punished the teenager like he was still playing in those Finals. After the throttling, West remembers walking up to the NBA player to ask him for some basketball tips, but the veteran pro wanted to know one thing: Are you going to State? When the kid answered honestly, the pro, according to West, said, "Well, I can't (bleep) with you," and turned his back on the 16-year-old. West fumed in the car ride back, then sought his true hero and made a vow.


    "I called my brother and told him, 'If I ever make it, I would never, never do that to a young player,'" West said. "You don't know how impactful your words can be to young people."


    So while West was becoming Xavier's second all-time leading scorer and first player to have his jersey retired while still playing, he made time to visit juvenile detention centers and battered women's shelters, looking into the eyes of the children stuck there and encouraging them.


    But there came a time when West had to prepare for the NBA draft and, naturally, his world shifted to center on himself. He lost sight of the greater purpose of life. Then, the Hornets drafted West.


    Nothing could prepare him for the shock of New Orleans.


    "…the being a force of nature…"


    West had a hard time reconciling his status as a highly paid professional basketball player with the city in which he made his wealth. Any sense of ego or self that emerged out of draft night in 2003 was shattered once he landed in New Orleans.


    Here he was in the 21st century, and West was learning that chain gangs were still very real, filled with men who looked like himself and his Hornets teammates. When he visited local juvenile detention centers, he met boys who were charged with felonies but should've been in the third grade. Those who weren't locked up might be attending parish elementary schools where the lunchroom has a dirt floor and the books in the library are 20 years out of date.


    "You go to certain parts of New Orleans and (if) you had a blindfold on and someone took the blindfold off, you would think you weren't in America," West said. "And I was having a difficult time getting paid a million or so dollars — and when I got into the NBA, I realized that I was on my own in feeling like that.


    "(I'm like), 'Yo! Nobody else sees that there's something wrong here?'"


    With this war waging in his mind, West found the locker room to be a lonely place. So as not to alienate himself, West subtly conformed.


    After West didn't take kindly to a New Orleans reporter using the so-called compliment "well spoken athlete" to describe him, he allowed a member of the team's public relations staff to sit in on interviews to serve as a buffer. West also recalled a time when a teammate passed by his seat on the plane and noticed that he was reading "Soul on Ice" by Eldridge Cleaver.


    "Man, you're always reading something crazy!" the teammate said, so West thought to himself that maybe he shouldn't break out his books in front of everyone.


    "I learned this my first couple of years: A locker room can be an uncomfortable environment," West said. "And in that environment, it was hard for me to find a balance. It was hard, literally, for me being a thinker; every single day my mind is just running. At times, I'm not focused on basketball."


    Then on his 25th birthday, West got a punch to his gut.


    The scenes on television were hard to imagine, levees folding under the might of Hurricane Katrina and entire portions of an American city underwater. West couldn't take it anymore.


    "That sort of hit me," West said, punching his right first into his left palm, "I realized how far behind not only New Orleans was, but how far behind we were as black people."


    West, the gruff in his baritone easing into an impassioned monologue, continued.


    "With all the money and the fame and the acclaim and the advancement that we claimed we made, we really (have) not made any big steps because Katrina was the biggest smack for me," West said. "It just illustrated how dependent we are as people on other people. The majority of the people affected by Hurricane Katrina were African-American people, and with all the celebrity that we have, all the money that we have, all of this fame and fortune, we're so disbanded that when our people are literally on TV in need of help, we got nothing to bring them.


    "Katrina really altered how I was going to look at (and) how I was going to approach this NBA thing."


    "…instead of a feverish, selfish little clod of ailments and grievances complaining that the world will not devote itself to making you happy." —George Bernard Shaw


    So West went back to living his way. The words "My Life" and "My Way" were already inked on his upper left arm before his senior season at Xavier. Now West, as a man, tattooed it to every decision he made.


    He began doing his own thing outside of the way the NBA does charity by sponsoring families in New Orleans. He still counts many of those families as friends.


    West found his balance, and teammates noticed the change.


    "He became much more involved in going places and speaking," said Pacers forward Rasual Butler, who joined the Hornets in 2005, the year the team was displaced by Katrina and moved to Oklahoma City. "Just speaking out his perspective, his outlook on life and trying to inspire people to do things to help themselves. He visited prisons and … schools, talking to the youth and just trying to give them some hope, some inspiration."


    When West signed a two-year deal as a free agent in 2011, picking the upstart Pacers over the more established Boston Celtics, some of the reason was that he saw a le window opening in Indiana.


    "The second he got here, you got the feeling that this guy was going to be the one to really change this whole locker room, change this whole team," teammate Paul George said. "He just brought an edge and a toughness, real leadership the second he got here."


    West also noticed an opportunity in Indiana for a new role — as the "vet" to help mentor younger players. Even if he unintentionally frightened some of them the first day he got there.


    When coach Frank Vogel introduced West to teammates before the first practice, he stood there silently, hands on his hips.


    "Not even a grin," assistant coach Dan Burke recalled. "I loved it! He was just here to work. Here to do his job.


    "He's like that George Bernard Shaw quote … I think he lives by that."


    That first year, George didn't know how to approach the new vet — "He was so locked in," George said — while Lance Stephenson tried avoiding him altogether.


    "Lance was scared to talk to me (my first) year," West said, and only later he found out the reason.


    "'Man, you know weird stuff!'" West remembered Stephenson telling him. "I'm serious! I had to figure out how he and I could converse and communicate."


    The work that West and his wife do to sponsor Thanksgiving dinners for Indianapolis homeless shelters, and the relationships built in the locker room are where he finds his greatest achievements as a Pacer.


    George and West found their common ground through music — West, who played first-chair tuba in high school and drums in the church band, makes beats and once offered some to hip-hop star Lil Wayne.


    "He's a master drummer," Vogel said. "I look up one day after practice and he tore up the Area 55 drums to all of our shock and awe."


    And yes, West, aka Mr. Serious, will be the first to indulge in one of the gutter entertainment clips on WorldStarHip Hop.com — an iPad favorite inside the Pacers' locker room — but he is also the one who introduces intellectual debates. Earlier this season, West played a big part in an impromptu team conversation about the God Particle. A discussion that started before shootaround lasted until 45 minutes before a game.


    "He is definitely going to let you know how he's feeling," Butler said with a knowing smile. "He's very aware of what's going on. … He elevates the conversation in the locker room and helps a lot of guys just be more aware of what's happening in the world today.


    "Just a great guy, very worldly, very intelligent brother."


    The Pacers are chasing their first NBA championship; this is the fuel that runs through West. But after this season, like every other summer, he'll return to Southeast Raleigh and re-enter society for his life's work — training and teaching young people on the AAU basketball team that he and his older brother operate. Some of the kids start in the program without knowing that the tall guy who shows up in the summertime plays in the NBA; that's because he doesn't carry the Association everywhere he goes. He just wants to be David West, a man apart.


    "If you're living and you're not doing things for other people, then you're wasting your time. You're wasting your life," West said. "'Keep myself in reality,' is what I like to call it. I think a lot of times in the NBA, you can get caught in this lifestyle and what the NBA has to offer. It's an ego-driven, self-driven, I, me deal and we all have to have some of that in order to get here, but … you can't let that consume you and become a part of who you are.


    "So I try to keep it cool. I try to keep everything in perspective."


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    Yeah, it's not LMA, it's the West signing that is transcending. A carefully crafted & calculated move of sincere power. No other way to cut it. It's simply magnificent.

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    Yeah, it's not LMA, it's the West signing that is transcending. A carefully crafted & calculated move of sincere power. No other way to cut it. It's simply magnificent.
    Just read the above again Cub, tell me it doesn't bring a tear to your eye. A wholesome warrior. A man on a mission, who walks the talk. An outsider in an insider's world.

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    "He is definitely going to let you know how he's feeling," Butler said with a knowing smile. "He's very aware of what's going on. … He elevates the conversation in the locker room and helps a lot of guys just be more aware of what's happening in the world today.


    "Just a great guy, very worldly, very intelligent brother."

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    You and Buddy are obsessed with the Spurs son, damn....

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    My point Mid is win or lose its not worth sacrificing that much money 2 or 3 million meh ok...but 10..get the outta here...and as much as I rag on Tammy I'm being serious now..I actually feel sorry for the dude..he wants white acceptance so bad he's willing to give back by my estimates 40 million on top of pros uting his booty hole out to whitey
    So Magic did the same thing then? He wanted white acceptance?

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    So Magic did the same thing then? He wanted white acceptance?
    Yes he did and still does...he's not comfortable in his own skin...he sits on ESPN sounding like a ,buffoon

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    "Of course money is great, but I play to win, and that's why I did it,''

    ~Magic Johnson
    And he was taking it in the ass while giving up less money.

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    didnt kirby traded in rape for a championship?

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    My point Mid is win or lose its not worth sacrificing that much money 2 or 3 million meh ok...but 10..get the outta here...and as much as I rag on Tammy I'm being serious now..I actually feel sorry for the dude..he wants white acceptance so bad he's willing to give back by my estimates 40 million on top of pros uting his booty hole out to whitey
    At least Duncan, West, Manu have a goal to win a championship and gave up money to achieve that goal. All that Kobe did was rob the lakers from any chance of getting any really good players. Plus he was out most/all of last season and still collected his pay - immorlal S-O-B

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    This thread taught me David west is magic johnson

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    didnt kirby traded in rape for a championship?
    And Malone traded chasing little Mexican girls for a chip

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