Splitter Traded to Hawks

[SPURt]

Welcome back Austin Daye! That 52 you dropped the other day really caused Pop and RC to risk blowing up this off season!

[ceperez]

Welcome back Austin Daye! That 52 you dropped the other day really caused Pop and RC to risk blowing up this off season!

So Spurs get Austin Daye's unguaranteed contract only to have it rescinded?

Does that have any effect on the cap situation?

[Chinook]

I'm so confused with you. That guy is wayyyyyyyyyyy better than whom they could have gotten with their picks this year IMO. By getting Muscala, that effectively turned out to be their 1st rounder this year instead of stashing and getting someone that I believe already posted an PER of 18+ last year in his first or 2nd season.

He doesn't fill a niche for the Spurs, and his contract expires next off-season. So the team is going to have to deal his new deal despite him getting almost no playing time this season. Milutinov and LJC would have years to grow into their roles while being cheap and filling needs. Withey would fill a gigantic need and be a good flyer, since he wouldn't cost cap space. But Muscala isn't the same. He's not a great future asset, nor is he great for the present.

[SPURt]

So Spurs get Austin Daye's unguaranteed contract only to have it rescinded?

Does that have any effect on the cap situation?

I was kidding, I hope they don't bring Daye back, good lawd that'd be something no one wants

[hater]

maybe splitter played pickup ball and lost a limb

[Chinook]

Maybe the hangup is that they want Diaw instead of Splitter.

[DPG21920]

I really disagree. He's obviously much, much better than LJC, CADY, Milutinov right now and you still have all their rights. I would rather have the player that looks much more like an NBA player today while keeping the others' rights - which SA did even with LJC.

By your logic, the only way he gets a better deal is if he's worth it. I'd rather have the asset that has shown some promise and has potential to play in a pinch vs someone who is likely to fail this year.

Also, who cares if he costs cap space? If he did, it would just be coming out of Tim's pocket anyways and what does that matter when Spurs only have min deals to work with anyways?

[ceperez]

Couldn't Spurs make a deal with some other team that need a center? There are plenty of team that have enough cap room for this.

Why does Atlanta get first dibs? Is it because Atlanta has something the Spurs want?

[Chinook]

I really disagree. He's obviously much, much better than LJC, CADY, Milutinov right now and you still have all their rights. I would rather have the player that looks much more like an NBA player today while keeping the others' rights - which SA did even with LJC.

By your logic, the only way he gets a better deal is if he's worth it. I'd rather have the asset that has shown some promise and has potential to play in a pinch vs someone who is likely to fail this year.

He doesn't have to prove anything. The guy barely played in Atlanta last year, and you covet him. Do you think he's going to get no offers next summer just because he isn't in the rotation? Did you see what happened with Joseph?

Anyway, Muscala is a stretch-five. Normally that's a pretty awesome asset to have, but it's pretty much wasted on the Spurs this season. They need a defensive big, not a shooter. I don't care who's better in a vacuum. Either LJC and Milutinov are better suited to play roles on the Spurs this season. And having them both over Muscala seems like a no-brainer for a team that's looking old and salary-locked.

[cd98]

Couldn't Spurs make a deal with some other team that need a center? There are plenty of team that have enough cap room for this.

Why does Atlanta get first dibs? Is it because Atlanta has something the Spurs want?

Yeah, Dallas may be in the market.

[SPURt]

Yeah, Dallas may be in the market.

Haha! This.

[Mr. Body]

Wonder if SA wanted another team's stashed involved and we're working to get those in. What Atlanta has alone isn't very promising. So I think there are contingencies that aren't coming through. Worst case the trade goes down as more or less a dump.

[ChumpDumper]

I still say the Spurs are getting the anorexic Swede.

[ceperez]

Wonder if SA wanted another team's stashed involved and we're working to get those in. What Atlanta has alone isn't very promising. So I think there are contingencies that aren't coming through. Worst case the trade goes down as more or less a dump.

Doesn't make sense if it is a pure dump. I expect some draft picks.

[Mr. Body]

I don't get the infatuation with Tavares. Spurs like fleet centers and he's definitely not. Hence Milutinov, who definitely is.

[ElNono]

I'm sure the Spurs can get a third team involved if needed to absorb whatever the Hawks might want to unload.

[Mr. Body]

Doesn't make sense if it is a pure dump. I expect some draft picks.

Of course it makes sense. The trade is only a salary dump, anything else is icing. My point is they may be trying to get via another team the icing they want but it's not working. They'll get something in the end but it will be negligible.

[BackHome]

No way Pop and RC did not dot the I and crossed the t on a deal this big

[Rev Hill]

Agree. But that is the very reason Bud has all the leverage. It means more to the Spurs than Atlanta.

Exactly. I'm sure all is good and will be good, but nothing is final until the deal is done, contracting 101.

[kaji157]

Of course it makes sense. The trade is only a salary dump, anything else is icing. My point is they may be trying to get via another team the icing they want but it's not working. They'll get something in the end but it will be negligible.

While i agree with you i think Splitter is a serviceable player and his salary is maybe a bit excesive, but for the league it can also be considered "low".

That´s why i think the Spurs will ask for "something" in return other than the cap space.

But on the other hand, the fact that Atlanta already knows that we need to move him in order to land Aldridge gives them and edge on negotiations.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Maybe the hangup is that they want Diaw instead of Splitter.

If Splitter is healthy that works for the Spurs IMO. Except Diaw makes a million less than Splitter.

[Mr. Body]

While i agree with you i think Splitter is a serviceable player and his salary is maybe a bit excesive, but for the league it can also be considered "low".

That´s why i think the Spurs will ask for "something" in return other than the cap space.

But on the other hand, the fact that Atlanta already knows that we need to move him in order to land Aldridge gives them and edge on negotiations.

Obviously. My point, again, it's that Atlanta has little to trade back in assets. Tavares is fool's gold. The plan, I'm suggesting, is that they wanted to get a third team involved to provide better assets (Hawks would add an existing player(s). But that hasn't worked. Now, the Spurs will accept assets they're not thrilled about.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I was kidding, I hope they don't bring Daye back, good lawd that'd be something no one wants

lol

[kaji157]

Obviously. My point, again, it's that Atlanta has little to trade back in assets. Tavares is fool's gold. The plan, I'm suggesting, is that they wanted to get a third team involved to provide better assets (Hawks would add an existing player(s). But that hasn't worked. Now, the Spurs will accept assets they're not thrilled about.

There already was a report that the Spurs will not receive any roster asset over this deal. So i expect picks and cash.

[lmbebo]

I'm guessing its a top 55 protected pick or somethin