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    Impending: Kevin Seraphin to the Spurs for 1 yr/3m
    That would be great

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    Why did people think the Spurs couldn't keep Mills?

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    Why did people think the Spurs couldn't keep Mills?
    Probably due to previous reporting citing an assumed $67 mil cap.

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    It didn't increase that much.

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    Probably due to previous reporting citing an assumed $67 mil cap.
    But he's already under contract.

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    But he's already under contract.
    Keep Mills and still have enough room for an Aldridge max deal. Looked like he might have to be traded away along with Splitter.

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    Why did people think the Spurs couldn't keep Mills?
    because tim at around 6 mil, aldridge max, and cap @67 didn't leave room for Mills to be kept around.

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    Well that's why I don't put all my eggs in the ST cap estimate basket. A team wouldn't have him recruit a free agent if he was going to be salary dumped the next week.

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    The Atlanta trade terms will be interesting.

    Also of interest is what exact understanding the Spurs have with Duncan. From what I understand the gist of it is a 2 year deal with the 2nd year partially guaranteed such that (assuming that this is Duncan's final season) he ends up with $10 mil for his last season. Presumably they could also get there with a 2 year $11 mil deal with most of the 2nd year guaranteed, if they needed more room this summer. Maybe that was a thought before West signed up for the vet min.

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    to complete the trade for Splitter the Atlanta Hawks send....Austin Daye back to the Spurs

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    Well that's why I don't put all my eggs in the ST cap estimate basket. A team wouldn't have him recruit a free agent if he was going to be salary dumped the next week.
    that was after an estimated increase to 69.1 mil

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    that was after an estimated increase to 69.1 mil
    Estimated by whom?

    Don't you guys think that actual NBA teams might have had a better handle on the cap number than we message board types?

    I don't believe dumping Patty was ever in the cards once Duncan committed to his cut -- and I think that was done long ago.

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    That's great news -- Duncan deserves at least that much.

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    Well that's why I don't put all my eggs in the ST cap estimate basket. A team wouldn't have him recruit a free agent if he was going to be salary dumped the next week.
    Well, before that nugget came out, many were estimating off only the known cap amounts at the time. As more news broke, the variables changed - especially with that meeting/cap jump.

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    Well, before that nugget came out, many were estimating off only the known cap amounts at the time. As more news broke, the variables changed - especially with that meeting/cap jump.
    I know. It's just that these estimates are almost never right.

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    I know. It's just that these estimates are almost never right.
    True - we should have known this year in particular might have an abnormally large change too. So much going on with money coming in and such. Hard to pin things down.

    But same with Green - most national reporters kept saying that Spurs "likely" had to trade Tiago and let Green go to get LMA.

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    True - we should have known this year in particular might have an abnormally large change too. So much going on with money coming in and such. Hard to pin things down.

    But same with Green - most national reporters kept saying that Spurs "likely" had to trade Tiago and let Green go to get LMA.
    So many grains of salt. i was pretty surprised with the quickness of the Splitter trade.

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    So I would imagine we know Tim's salary by tomorrow. Tim has to be the first to sign. Spurs need to sign him first to remove his cap hold - then finalize Tiago trade. Should know a lot more details tomorrow.

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    Guarantees Patty is staying (unless they can trade him for something they find more important - doubtful), that they won't pay tax (most likely that will be the case) & that they might be able to get a player back in the ATL trade for this year (assuming Tim might take a little less than the 6M reported)

    Being able to afford to keep Patty is huge. I saw the first pre-season game last season, and my only comment was how much of a problem it was for him to be out. It's hard to imagine any player that would be more important, that the Spurs could afford. Now, I think, nobody has to wonder if they might have to move him for money purposes. The cap increase benefits every team, but I think the Spurs will make more of it than most.

    I know the Spurs and Hawks have ties, but do you really think they would send any more help to a team that's already had such a field day this offseason? I didn't think West would sign for the min, so right about now I'm ready to believe that anything is possible.

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    why do people think patty is leaving? he was there during the first meeting with aldridge

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    why does people think patty is leaving? he was there during the first meeting with aldridge
    Read above a bit.

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    Being able to afford to keep Patty is huge. I saw the first pre-season game last season, and my only comment was how much of a problem it was for him to be out. It's hard to imagine any player that would be more important, that the Spurs could afford. Now, I think, nobody has to wonder if they might have to move him for money purposes. The cap increase benefits every team, but I think the Spurs will make more of it than most.

    I know the Spurs and Hawks have ties, but do you really think they would send any more help to a team that's already had such a field day this offseason? I didn't think West would sign for the min, so right about now I'm ready to believe that anything is possible.
    I am not sure. On one level - it makes sense because Tiago is a really valuable player and it would be incredible if ATL just got him for nothing in return. On the other hand, they likely had some leverage since they knew SA had to do a trade of Splitter to go after LMA.

    I wouldn't be surprised either way, but if I had to guess, I would imagine SA gets SOMETHING back - even if it's not a player for this year.

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    Estimated by whom?

    Don't you guys think that actual NBA teams might have had a better handle on the cap number than we message board types?

    I don't believe dumping Patty was ever in the cards once Duncan committed to his cut -- and I think that was done long ago.

    I think when people hear something often enough, it seeps in. So many of the writers were so certain that Green might be on the trade block, and I think they started suggesting that maybe they could get by with "just" trading Patty. Just a guess. But most of the comments here probably have more to do with the articles/tweets out there than anything else.

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    For me personally, the Patty stuff stemmed from not banking on Tim taking small money and the inital salary cap. I was firmly on the Green is staying bandwagon though.

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    For me personally, the Patty stuff stemmed from not banking on Tim taking small money and the inital salary cap. I was firmly on the Green is staying bandwagon though.
    And that, yeah. The idea of Tim playing for peanuts is still sort of alien. I know, one more ring, and all that. But it's still strange to think about him playing for a bargain.

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