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    Recently, Kurds on each side of the Turkey-Syria border have made significant advances in their quest for autonomy. In Turkey, those gains were won at the ballot box, while in Syria they were won on the battlefield. After garnering global sympathy and the support of U.S. airpower with their defense of Kobani against a formidable siege by the Islamic State (also called ISIS), Syria’s Kurds went on to capture the strategic town of Tel Abyad from ISIS on June 15. And as a result of Turkey’s elections a week earlier, the Kurdish-led People’s Democratic Party (HDP) has entered parliament, irrevocably altering Turkey’s political landscape. Indeed, seating the first Kurdish-oriented party in parliament cons utes a milestone for civil rights in Turkey. But in the context of events on both sides of the border, the true winner is Turkey’s outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), a party and militant group that initiated the HDP’s creation and whose Syrian affiliate, the Democratic Union Party (PYD),is responsiblefor the recent victories against ISIS.


    The HDP’s entrance into Turkey’s parliament and the PYD’s control of Syrian territory mark a new chapter in the PKK’s decadelong attempt to create a pan-Kurdish confederation that would bring together the Middle East’s 30 million Kurds.
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    I'm fine with giving the Kurds northern Iraq. Better than the Persian descendants that refuse to cooperate with them who run Baghdad and the Sunnis who have dreams of caliphate.

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    The Kurds deserve their own ethnic state, they are the most bro-tier of all the middle eastern peoples. They've been putting in work against Isis.

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    This maybe something we can all agree on.

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    They are pretty much surrounded on all sides by genocidal nuts. This is the only way to ensure security and peace gortheir people and they are fighting as if they know it.

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    Kurds need their own country. Poor saps have been fighting every war just to avoid being cleansed.

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    Iraq, split in 3 independent countries, undoing the British empire disastrous country creation.

    kurdistan, shiitistan, sunnistan.

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    Iraq, split in 3 independent countries, undoing the British empire disastrous country creation.

    kurdistan, shiitistan, sunnistan.
    I agree with you here, but I am curious why you feel this way about middle eastern ethnic states but not about european ethnic states? why should middle easterners get their own ethnic states but that right be denied to the various peoples of europe?

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    Iraq, split in 3 independent countries, undoing the British empire disastrous country creation.

    kurdistan, shiitistan, sunnistan.
    I agree with you here, but I am curious why you feel this way about middle eastern ethnic states but not about european ethnic states? why should middle easterners get their own ethnic states but that right be denied to the various peoples of europe?

    Hey I think you must have missed this one, I'm curious for your thoughts here.

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    Hope so. Kurds seem to have the only really functioning government in Iraq.

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    I agree with you here, but I am curious why you feel this way about middle eastern ethnic states but not about european ethnic states? why should middle easterners get their own ethnic states but that right be denied to the various peoples of europe?
    That depends on how granular you want to get. Are Scwhabians German? Rheinlanders?

    I know of several sub-ethnicities within the modern state of germany.

    If they really want to be their own country, let them, and let them do it as democratically as possible, IMO.

    But I'm not Boutons, just trying to throw that in.

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    That's the sane answer, although Germany isn't ruled democratically it's an illusion. But I really wanted to hear Boutons take on it.

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    I agree with you here, but I am curious why you feel this way about middle eastern ethnic states but not about european ethnic states? why should middle easterners get their own ethnic states but that right be denied to the various peoples of europe?
    It's a good point but I imagine boutons has to iron out the quandaries with his superiors first.

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    That's the sane answer, although Germany isn't ruled democratically it's an illusion. But I really wanted to hear Boutons take on it.
    How is it an illusion? Have you eve n read the Grundgesetzt?

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    How is it an illusion? Have you eve n read the Grundgesetzt?

    Theyve veen paying repatations for 6 decades and every time they pay one off they think up another one

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/11/18...referrer=&_r=0

    they also have a foreign army and bases in their country. And we spy on them to make sure that thry don't get out of line. We all know if Germany were to try to reassert herself she'd probably get nuked. It's a phony fake so called friendship. German court just ruled the other day that the nazi government are actually legally still the rightful power in Germany.

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    Kurds seem to be the only people without heir heads up their ... well you know.

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    Boutons I have a question if you scroll up

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    Boutons must be busy sheesh

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    Boutons must be busy sheesh
    How is the race war your boy out in South Carolina progressing? Are you happy with the results thus far?

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    It didn't ignite like a bad fuse

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    It didn't ignite like a bad fuse
    Why do you think it failed? No real appe e?

    Do you think your boy is happy that his murderous rampage was the catalyst for legislation that removed the confederate battle flag from the state capital?

    Your hero's plan really blew up in his face. You'd likely have similar results if you actually had the intestinal for ude to act on your deviant rhetoric. Good thing you're a pussy.

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    I've said more than once that it was wrong what do you want a hug

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    Kurds seem to be the only people without heir heads up their ... well you know.
    You can perfectly say it. It's completely true.

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    Baghdad of course doesn't want to Kurds to have their own country, taking the northern oil fields with them.

    The Turks will do everything they can, and I expect Iranians, too, to undercut if not block Kurdish region autonomy, and certainly a Kurdish state.

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