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I've disliked Joseph's game as much as anybody here throughout the years, but he is far better than McCallum, probably not even close, tbh..
I expect him to be starting the 2nd half of a playoff game for us at some point while another player quits.
I've disliked Joseph's game as much as anybody here throughout the years, but he is far better than McCallum, probably not even close, tbh..
yeah, these offensive highlights are nice, but can he defend would be better to know IMO
From all accounts, he's at least a capable defender. Not sure he'll be as good as/better than CoJo, but I'm fairly certain he'll be better than Parker/Mills.
Yeah, people are being silly. Joseph played great as a starter. McCallum may be able to get there, but it's not likely, and he doesn't have the same upside. Like not at all.
Wonder if the Spurs traded the Hawks' 2017 second for McCallum?
Tell me more about this supposed upside to Joseph that he failed to realize in his four-year tenure in San Antonio.
I saw Joseph play not only with the Spurs, but also watched him a ton up here in Austin. The dude was at his ceiling. Sure, he improved his jump shot, but not enough to keep opponents from sagging off him. His defense was good, but highly overrated imo. He couldn't finish at the rim. He could hit the the three in the DLeague, but was afraid to shoot it in the big show. Everybody praised his ability to run the offense, but the motion still came to a screeching halt when he came in because teams could defend the Spurs 5-on-4.
His dunk on Ibaka was amazing, but that is not nearly enough to justify the money he was going for.
I don't think anyone is arguing that CoJo is worth the contract he got. Just arguing against the notion that we McCallum is essentially just as good as Joseph.
The reason I disliked Joseph is because I think he's a relatively poor off-ball player that doesn't fit well with Parker and Ginobili, mostly due to his reluctance to shoot, particularly from the 3-point line..
I would actually be really surprised if he doesn't thrive in Toronto as the primary ball-handler in the 2nd unit, he's going to put up nice numbers IMO..everybody has this silly idea that everybody fits seamlessly in the Spurs system and that's the reason they look good, but Joseph is a player that was held back by the system IMO, and I say that as a guy that has been constantly refered to as a "Cojo hater" here..
He reminds me a lot of Jeremy Lin, similar build and style of play, and they both need the ball to thrive and play their game..
First, watching him at UT doesn't matter. Four years in SA is more than good enough.
Second, Joseph's upside is that he can get his shot whenever he wants. He has the handle and the moves to get to his spots and punish a defense. That was something he did consistently when he was in charge of the offense. What he never really did was learn to play off the ball, which despite what some posters are saying, still plagues McCallum. Neither one is a good enough shooter to guard heavily, but Cory will burn you one-on-one. He's also more explosive at the rim, and he's better an making contested finishes.
So what does McCallum really have besides the fact that he was good in the summer league and burned the Spurs that one time? What really makes him better? He's smaller, older, has the same weaknesses and not a strong of strengths. I'm fine with the idea of money-balling Cory and getting a good player. But let's be real here. Dude's a third-stringer. That's why a team that's gone through so many starting PGs recently didn't give him the ball.
He's cheaper, that's about it. But it's a good pickup at that price range, and the Spurs are simply tight money-wise.
It'd be nice if the Spurs got McCallum to play in Vegas. It probably won't happen but with Nate Wolters injured and no other interesting PG prospects, that would a good way to introduce him to the system and get his feet wet.
Is he still eligible to play in the D-league?
I'm really relieved that Spurs found a backup point guard. I doubt Parker will play the entire regular season.
I also seriously doubt seeing Leonard playing the entire regular season. Kyle Anderson has to back him up or some other athletic SF.
The guys I expect to be healthy throughout the entire year are:
Mills
McCallum
Green
Aldridge
Diaw
Everyone else is injury prone or old enough to require rest.
So the Spurs and Kings pretty much swap two players with the same jersey #.
This post is so, so inaccurate. Post less.
lol
What matter is that Ray costs a lot less than CoJo. Cojo earned his pay day.
I actually agree with this. Cojo will turn some heads in Toronto. Still not worth 7 mil for the spurs. But he'll do well and im rootong for him.
I guess the Spurs could have done worse, but I agree that Joseph was a much better player than McCallum so I don't expect this kid to stand out immediately.
McCallum might create better chemistry with his 3rd unit chums
The Deal
Spurs get: Guard Ray McCallum
Kings get: Future second-round pick
San Antonio Spurs: C+
The Spurs are limited to minimum-salary players to fill out their roster, and McCallum qualifies in the final season of the three-year deal he signed as a second-round pick in 2013. Essentially, San Antonio is choosing McCallum over a free agent signed for the minimum, and that's an understandable decision. He's just 24 and has plenty of NBA experience, having played more than 2,000 minutes over his two seasons in Sacramento.
Alas, at the end of that span it's still not clear what McCallum's NBA skill is. He's been productive each of the last two Aprils as a starter. He averaged 12.7 points, 4.6 points rebounds and 4.2 assists in nine games in April 2015, but that's come in extended minutes (33.4 per game) with the ball primarily in his hands. That won't be McCallum's role with the Spurs.
McCallum hasn't been effective enough as a playmaker to consider him a full-time point guard. And after showing promise from 3-point range as a rookie (37.3 percent), he regressed to 30.6 percent shooting in a larger sample size in year two, making it tough to play McCallum off the ball. He's also been vulnerable to post-ups when defending shooting guards. McCallum stands a quarter-inch over 6 feet without shoes and has a 6-3 1/4 wingspan, meaning he doesn't have the same defensive versatility as the departed Cory Joseph. I can't quite buy McCallum as a replacement for Joseph in anything but a roster sense.
Ultimately, if it were anyone besides San Antonio acquiring a player who ranked81st among point guards in ESPN's real plus-minus last season, I doubt there would be this much excitement. Given the cost, there's no downside to this deal for the Spurs. I just don't see a great deal of upside either.
Sacramento Kings: C+
Having signed Rajon Rondo to go along with in bent starterDarren Collison at point guard, the Kings were probably thinking of waiving McCallum before his contract became $200,000 guaranteed on July 12. (His 2015-16 salary will become fully guaranteed on July 20, per Mark Deeks.) In that case, getting anything in return is a positive for Sacramento.
http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story...mccallum-kings
The ? Laugh out loud.
They fell for the ol "advanced stats without context" trap, read earlier in this thread and you'll see it
Am I the only one hoping Williams gets waived? He's just insurance for wing player depth, but he was very very bad last year. The Spurs waived Daye to pick him up and to be honest, I think he might have been worse or about the same. For a shooter, he didn't shoot well. I would have rather had JArrel Eddie or some other, younger dleaguer. I'd rather see any other shooter.
She's got better court vision iirc.
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