So because they out think you the solution is murder them?
I agree
So because they out think you the solution is murder them?
I ignored the person shots
They look out for their own. I don't see Israel allowing sub-cultures. And I read many Russian-Jews living in Israel ended up leaving for basically that reason.
Looking out for your own is fine in the USA because it's always been a fractured society.
Manipulation was in reference to them guilt tripping people over the Holocaust and the stunt they've been pulling in American Politics with this Iranian Nuke Deal.
As you mentioned they work in high paying industries [thanks large part to their nepotism] so what purpose are they to a nation like Poland? They aren't willing to get their hands dirty. There is still a mystery as to how Jews in America ac ulated so much wealth so fast after WW2. People washing ashore in New York with luggage owning entire blocks of property after 10 years. Connect the dots. How did Israel quickly become a mini-super power in a region surrounded by poverty? Connect the dots
So no I don't respect their wealth because most of it was ac ulated by American handouts, Bull War reparations and nepotism. They are a Welfare State.
I don't trust them. I never will.
They succeed in a huge number of fields. Ever heard of Einstein.
And they can be assholes, cheaters, liars just like any other people.
Hitler used them as scapegoats to rally the thuggery element of German society. WW I was very tough on the Germans. But they were not really defeated. Because the Germans were so efficient they gave us the most focused, organized effort to exterminate people the world has ever seen. The massive destruction both Germany and Japan got hit with turned out to be a gruesome gift. Being forced to accept total defeat after WW II appears to have benefits, if the winners allow the losers to recover. ( Actually aid it) East Germany turned into a hole because the Russians took control.
Yeah. I'm an American. This is how I see it. And Israel actually being a democracy has allowed them our favors. Next time you see a newspaper in the Middle East that criticizes the government in power and is not underground let me know. Israel, like the U.S., can move forward because we can criticize ourselves and therefore have the possibility of healing.
The worst thing the Arabs and Iran can do is galvanize Israel by the use of terror. And vice versa. Then you get guys like King BiBi.
That was a good rambling, fractured spiel by myself.
Not when I elicit a response like this:
lol
Why are they so salty that Iran's nuclear program will be dismantled?![]()
^it won't be? Dude what are you talking about
I think that is a fair assessment. I just feel it cannot be ignored that Israel was created in large part for there to be a Western ally in the region [which is great if you are part of the US/UK/France alliance]. We as Westerners might gloss over this point but those in the region do not. Can we say for certain that if Israel were created but left alone to fend for itself, they would be this so called beacon of Democracy in the region? Chances are they would have needed to make questionable alliances to survive which would shape their politics. So they were and continue to be this Token Westerner in the region. It would anger me if a Polish neighboring country [let's say Belarus] was pumped with steroids and started asserting itself.
Moving forward I'm relieved that over the past decade Israels mistreatment of foreigners has been exposed. Atleast in my lifetime and probably my childrens, Israel should have no fear of so called survival because the West has caused so much disarray in the region that there is no longer any rebellion. ISIS? I laugh. Let's be honest, time will pass and some of this will be rewritten by the Western victors.
Earlier on the treadmill I caught an interview on CNN. Guy said Iran is ripe for this, to move forward not just politically but culturally. That this will create a wedge between the new generation and the old Revolution guard. This was a no brainer deal for the USA. What do they lose [maybe strengthen Russia's ally]? Iran is no direct threat to American soil. Europeans were done with the sanctions and want to tap into the Iranian business potential, so it's wise for the USA to join instead of being left as the only one with sanctions [which would make them pointless]. As a 31 year old it's crazy to realize my entire lifetime Iran has been under sanctions. I really respect them for circling the wagons and pulling thru.
Say what? The Arabs and Iran are mortal enemies. It's the Arabs who are crying even more than Israelis right now.
Israels is happy seeing these ppl kill each other.
Where did I say they were not mortal enemies. It's more complicated than that. Persians v. Arabs AND Shia v, Sunni WITH a significant Shia presence in the Arab world.
What I am saying is that Israeli Doves are laying low and beaten down because both the Arabs and the Iranians hate them and are actively attacking. Rocketing Israel just keeps the conservatives in Israel on top. Maybe both groups want a constant war.
Let us know when this happens
I'm sure you've thought of an answer to your question. Kind of like how you constantly think if my sex life.
When the UN gave Palestinians 2/3 and Israelis 1/3 after WWII the Arab world was pissed they would have to deal with Palestinians as they still are. So they attacked Israel and got their butts kicked by a much smaller force. Israel found itself with a huge amount of land after the dust settled. The Israelis gave the Sinai back to Egypt and the Golan Heights back to Lebanon.
This is what the Arabs got for not sticking to twice as much land for the Palestinians. I don't exactly know what the UN was supposed to do with the land in the first place but it definitely had a Western slant as to the proportioning.
Iran has always had a progressive more enlightened element. We really screwed up turning a blind eye to the Shah's atrocities. We are fine with SiSi in Egypt ruling with an iron hand because there is little we can do on this front except withhold money. At this time this seems to be a very poor option after we played a significant role in destabilizing the region in the first place, as Egypt relatively stable.
The Israelis are not happy with leaderless enemies.
After all the bull the GOP has spewed about everything that Democrats and Obama do, only to be proven they are spewing bull , why would anyone in their right mind start believing them now. If you do you, you are the definition of insane.
Seeing your position on Russia and then looking at the polls from Poland on Russia it's safe to say you are not fit to speak for the Polish people.
Israel has 200 nukes and a top 5 army in the world.
Any given day they can put a hurting on any of those Arab tribes. And they do.
This thread is about crying after a peace deal with Iran.![]()
For some reason Israel believes Iran is their mortal enemy. I don't buy the "but but they said they would wipe us from the land" bull excuse.
Maybe an Israeli oracle predicted their downfall at the hand of Iran? I can't think of any other reason tbh. Unless they are just distracting the world off other things with thus fake bull .
What does that have to do with firing rockets at civilians? The terrorists of Gaza know they are poking a big dog that is completely chained as long as they just poke. The Israelis poke back harder and the terrorists delight when they hit civilians. Now if the terrorists come with a nuke the dog will be unchained. Who do you trust more with Nukes?
Get real...
And Sorry that threads ebb and flow and change directions. Report me to the mods.
Wonder why they are getting bullied and getting rockets fired.
They are just minding their business after all![]()
Hezbollah perhaps? Funded by Iran.
Let's say Canada funded a terrorist organization in Mexico whose stated aim was to kill every man woman and child in Texas, the holy land of Mexico ... you'd feel OK with that?
Hizbollah and ...
Iran Rekindles Relations With Hamas
A rift between Tehran and the terrorist group in Gaza has been repaired, and aid is flowing again.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-rek...mas-1429658562
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