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    Red Mamba = Champion.

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    Agree with this to an extent.

    However, its reasonable to believe Manu's play-making responsibilities/usage rate will decline to a degree. In this case, I think Kyle could work w/ Manu on 2nd team if Manu plays a little bit more off the ball here and there -- while Kyle is the player working the high PnR in the second unit ( this is if Kyle earn more minutes/responsibility from now til then). Think this idea could preserve Manu's energy and make him more efficient whenever he does run the offense for the 2nd unit. Also it could help him get through the 7-8 month season without as much wear and tear on his tires.

    Side note: It's reasonable to assume Green's workload and minutes will increase this year. Spurs want him to grow even more. For that reason and others, I'm not too worried about rushing to add a wing to the 15th spot right now. That guy will be irrelevant for the most part unless the team gets hit hard with injuries but even then, they have Simmons and Anderson already in line to eat minutes when players need rest or recovery time.

    In close/compe ive games and playoffs, I can see Pop going w/ a 3 wing rotation with Leonard/Green seeing heavy minutes with Manu getting his 20-22 mpg and the winner of the Simmons/Anderson compe ion will only be included if an injury happens or if Leonard or Green gets in foul trouble. Then again, there's a scenario where Kyle or Simmons exceed expectations and produce to the point where Pop has to find minutes for him -- which would just be icing on the cake. IMO

    Spurs are fine at the wing as is -- if you want to give Green the room (minutes) to grow even more. IMO
    Not with the second unit, Ginobili's play making/usage won't.

    I'm not concerned with conserving Ginobili's energy. He's going to play 22-24 mpg, get the occasional game off and probably have at least one injury too. He should be fine.

    With the quality of the top three wings, they don't need a fourth the caliber of a Belinelli, but they do have a need for someone with a similar skill set. Signing a Jenkins or Butler or whoever, wouldn't stop Green from growing or automatically block Anderson and Simmons from getting an opportunity, but they wouldn't be irrelevant either. In fact, they'd probably be the odds on favorite to be the fourth wing, since they're a better fit. Also, it's not like Leonard and Ginobili are the most durable of players.

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    No one, including myself, said we brough LA here to shoot 3's. That doesn't negate the fact that he does. It also doesn't negate the fact that some said Bonner was redundant. The fact that even at his worst, he shoots the 3 better than the next best 3-shooting big. Lastly, I said we could do worse. I am sure they took all things into consideration when they resigned him. I'm ok with it. He has value. Yes. He is a specialist, which makes him not redundant, and potentially useful, in that special situation. BillMc's example being a good EXAMPLE.
    So you feel that out of the D-league, FA's, or maybe even our own prospects we didn't have an option for the same cost that would bring at the least what Bonner brings next season?

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    So you feel that out of the D-league, FA's, or maybe even our own prospects we didn't have an option for the same cost that would bring at the least what Bonner brings next season?
    I am open to suggestions, but I also see their reasoning.

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    Manu Ginobili @manuginobili
    Very happy to read that Matt Bonner, aka Red Rocket, aka Red Mamba, aka Coach B, aka Air New Hampshire is coming back next season!


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    I am open to suggestions, but I also see their reasoning.
    IMO their reason was trust and corporate knowledge. Considering what the FO has done so far, it's not a really big issue, but I wish they would have rolled the dice because his playoff numbers have sucked too.

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    Matt will do anything Pop ask. He will play anytime when asked. He will get sandwiches if asked.
    Matt loves to play and every team wants a player like Matt.He is always ready.Every clubhouse
    needs a Matt.

    Glad your back .....

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    I can't wait to see the look on Aldridges face when he realizes Bonner is starting with him that first night Duncan has off.

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    For the minimum it is a super deal. Matt knows the system, his defense is decent when he is used sparingly, and his offensive game has improved over the years. He can put the ball on the floor and get to the rim and finish with that little baby hook.

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    Red Mamba = Champion.
    I think you meant:

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    I can't wait to see the look on Aldridges face when he realizes Bonner is starting with him that first night Duncan has off.
    He'll be like this:

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    thank in god. dude belongs here.

    if you hate the red mamba....well i pity you

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    i'm cool having him back. the team could use a good locker room guy with the new faces. Least he won't about his role or minutes. Plus it's worth it to see the crying on SpursTalk.

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    A bunch of sadomasochistic mother ers here that are happy with this . Unreal, lol. Yeah, I know, it's sacrilege to bad mouth this er of all people, lol. Bizarro world, man.

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    Can't believe he is still hanging around but I don't hate it for many reasons as already stated. Continuity, chemistry and a positive off court guy are going to be pretty important this season with the Spurs bringing in so many new guys. Bonner strikes me as the type of guy that most people will get along with, even people that you may not expect him to relate to (young black guys, tbh )

    He can be a decent minute eater in the doldrums in the regular season as well, good against those lowly eastern conference teams who still think he can hit 3's regularly. For me the only downside is he is potentially taking some garbage time minutes away from a young prospect, but at this point the Spurs are all-in so that doesn't really matter tbh

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    Let's get this thread to 100 pages.

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    Can't believe he is still hanging around but I don't hate it for many reasons as already stated. Continuity, chemistry and a positive off court guy are going to be pretty important this season with the Spurs bringing in so many new guys. Bonner strikes me as the type of guy that most people will get along with, even people that you may not expect him to relate to (young black guys, tbh )

    He can be a decent minute eater in the doldrums in the regular season as well, good against those lowly eastern conference teams who still think he can hit 3's regularly. For me the only downside is he is potentially taking some garbage time minutes away from a young prospect, but at this point the Spurs are all-in so that doesn't really matter tbh
    That's my main gripe. It's a gratuitous signing that only sets out to give the guy a piggy back to another ring.

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    Fck should of known better

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    Welcome back Red Mamba. I always wanted to like him more than I actually did. But he's good people and great in a few situations. One thing for sure is Brian Scalabrine has nothing on two time champ Matty B!

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    If Bonner rings he'll have more than Bron

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    I guess I can still hold out hope he can be used as trade bait by the deadline.

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    A bunch of sadomasochistic mother ers here that are happy with this . Unreal, lol. Yeah, I know, it's sacrilege to bad mouth this er of all people, lol. Bizarro world, man.
    I just stopped giving a about the guy when Pop finally stopped playing him in the Diaw role. There have been bigger scrubs than Bonner to the team the last 3 seasons.

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    I just stopped giving a about the guy when Pop finally stopped playing him in the Diaw role. There have been bigger scrubs than Bonner to the team the last 3 seasons.
    Speaking of, do you think Boylen gets the Bulls to pick up Ayres? LOL.

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    thank in god. dude belongs here.

    if you hate the red mamba....well i pity you
    Ehhhh he still sucks.

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