Eddie can shoot but that's it. He's the guy you don't want to go against at Dave and Busters basketball shooting game but put him on a court with other players and he will hit shots, he just doesn't do anything else.
i've watched most of the Vegas games. Eddie makes Neal look like Kawhi on defense, and Green look like Manu creating. He's literally terrible at everything but catch and shoot. I think even calling him a one way player would be an overstatement, since his offensive skillset is limited to only catch and shoot.
Thanks for the write up as always.
I really don't understand why everyone seems to think Neal was some charity project on the Spurs part. He was an over-achiever for certain - but the guy was clutch and brought a lot to the floor. Most people's issues with him stem from the fact that he was thrust into a PG role for which he really wasn't suited. That and his defense was quite poor (and that wasn't helped by the fact that he often played with Dejuan Blair a lot either). But he was a 42% 3-point shooter his first two years here. Thats not an unpredictable "shoot" at all. For a summer league find that played on a bare minimum deal for 3 solid years he was amazing. On today's Spurs he might have been a 13th or 14th man, but at the time he was an asset for a team that seriously lacked shooting.
He was also able to create his own shot, unlike most spot shooters..in his best season with the Spurs(2012), only 42% of his shots were assisted, which was 2nd to Parker..a lot of people seem to have forgotten that aspect of his game..
That is very well said. He was certainly a value for what we paid him, and useful for a team that was not as deep at the time. He also had that big game 3 against the Heat in his final year. Certainly a good find. He is damned a bit, because Danny Green emerged soon after and not only was as good a shooter, but an infinitely better defender.
As far as Eddie, I think he's certainly worth a training camp invite, but I think he's a long shot to make the team. He might have made the 2010 Spurs, not the 2015 ones.
Thanx again for the great write-up...
Gary Neal was the . Loved that guy.
Clutch scoring guard. Miss him and always wish him the best.
One thing that you know translates to the next level for Kyle is that rebounding. Dude combines the size and length with excellent anticipation and timing. Probably his most unheralded skill tbqh.
Yeah you’re right about his offense, what I mean with unpredictable shoot is that he took shoots too quickly without a play, not only 3’s. Don´t get me wrong I loved Neal, but is like the ex girl friend who dump you and you only remember the good things . The thing is that he wasn´t bad on defense, he was terrible, that’s why I said if we could live with his bad defense, we could give Eddie a chance. Personally I prefer Rasual Butler, I watched some games of Wahington last year, and he still plays very well.
Do you mean his shot selection? If so, I agree... He was a gunner that never met a shot he didn't like and he's better suited to be more of a spot up shooter instead.
RJ had more defensive and facilitating plays in that game than Eddie has shown his entire time in Vegas. Eddie is a gunner, but I just don't know he's an NBA player at the moment.
Thanks for the Thoughts as usual. Looking forward to today's game. Will be interesting who gets to go to training camp, but looks like KA and Simmons are the only ones getting a true shot for good reasons. Glad to see them both excelling.
Graham could be a Keith Bogans type...
Agree on Graham. He could use a season in Austin, but he profiles well as a 3&D guy in the league. Needs more consistency on his jump shot, but I like his tools and effort.
Thanks for the writeup!
I really like the fire that Simmons brings and he definitely has some skills on defense and offense. That being said, it looked like he was playing a sagging zone on defense a lot the way he played so far off his man. While it helped clog the lane, he was leaving a man open on the perimeter and in the big leagues that guy is going to be a great 3pt shooter. Showed some nice athleticism on defense on a key block and his dropping off is strictly because he's trying to help out on defense.
On offense, his first inclination is to keep the ball and try to make something happen, ususally by driving. He has great body control and when he's seems to be covered up by defenders, he is often able to contort himself and use his left hand to get a shot off. He only passes the ball when he is hopelessly pinned under the basket and some of those passes looked to be very dangerous cross court or to the back perimeter--but he delivers them sharply and gets away with a lot of them so perhaps his court vision is better that it appears on TV.
Mentally, he made a big error at the end of the game with under 30 seconds to go, trying to drive against several defenders and he got blocked and they scored. A very un-Spurlike move since the smart move was to play out the time. But rookies will make mistakes in judgment and I doubt he'll be on the floor in real games in that situation.
I like him for a bench player and he'll be a fan favorite because of his energy. Reminds me of Patty when he first came to the Spurs in that regard. He wont hurt us if he plays a few minutes every game against the other team's bench.
No, Korver is just better in virtually every way. He's at least active defensively, doesn't have poor hands (the catch aspect of the catch and shoot is something Eddie struggles with, especially if he's on the move). Korver can also put the ball on the floor a bit and is a good passer
Nice write upI agree he will be a Patty-esque energy guy off the bench. And I think Pop will iron out some of those mental mistakes he's making.
What to do with Jarrell Eddie? Obviously can shoot, no doubt about that. Not only can he shoot, he has a very fast release. Curry proved how valuable that can be.
So he can't do anything else? Is he just unskilled? Does he not have some level of athleticism? Does he not work hard enough? Is it an at ude issue?
A year ago, Simmons was a total nobody, can Eddie be a somebody with one more year under the Toros?
Give him some camp money so he'll stay in Austin and see what happens. That's about the most that can be done.
Eddie is only 23, so he has some time. But shooting is usually the easiest thing to develop, so I don't think he has a ton of upside. He's just not very skilled or athletic. He's tall but not to the point that he could play inside. He'd be lucky to end up in Neal's class. If the Spurs end up cutting or trading Williams for a TE, I wouldn't mind Eddie hanging onto that last spot. But I wouldn't want that contract guaranteed. I think there are better 15-men prospects still unsigned.
Yes, shooting is teachable, but he's not just a shooter, he's a super shooter, his release is as fast as curry it seemed on one play last game, and he's hitting them at a VERY high %
Yeah, if shooting were so easily taught much more than 20 people would shoot over 40% from the arc in the NBA. I have never seen anyone develop that kind of release after joining the NBA, but maybe I missed something. Even if Eddie doesn't develop and just plays the way he did last season, he'll probably be called up again because his shooting is that good. I agree he won't be of any use to the Spurs if he doesn't develop though.
I think you guys misinterpreted what I meant. I'm not saying Eddie's level of shooting was easy to obtain. What I am saying is that there is less hope of Eddie developing a broader game than there is to a non-shooter who checks the other boxes to develop a respectable jumper. So I have doubts that he's that great of a prospect simply because his path to being a well-rounded enough player is a lot harder than most.
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