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    blind squirrel news

    Kansas City Prepping Huge Electric Car Charging Network


    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817...ing_id=1156220

    I'm sure Kansas-owning Kock Bros are not pleased. Where are ALEX and State Policy Network hatchet men?





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    Lets just put a generator on your right wrist while you jack off.
    or your mom's head

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    eeeeeeeeuuuuuu

    She is 86.


    go for it.

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    eeeeeeeeuuuuuu

    She is 86.


    go for it.
    well...she gives head like shes 65

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    oh yeah...please let her know I have her dentures at home

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    Tesla Faces One More Hurdle In New Jersey After Senate Passes Bill Allowing Direct-To-Consumer Sales

    A little more than a year after the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission unanimously voted to block the sale of Tesla vehicles directly to consumers, the state’s Legislature passed a bill allowing the car company to bypass auto dealerships and continue its unique model of car sales.

    The New Jersey Star-Ledger reports
    that the final decision on whether or not Tesla – and other car zero-emission car manufacturers – can sell vehicles directly to consumers rests on the shoulders of Governor Chris Christie, whose administration stopped Tesla from selling the electric cars in the first place.


    Under legislation passed on a 30-2 vote yesterday, Tesla would be able to restart sales at its two New Jersey showrooms, and open two additional stores in the state.


    Christie has 45 days to sign the bill. A spokesperson for the Governor’s office tells the Star-Ledger that the bill “will be reviewed.”

    http://consumerist.com/2015/03/17/te...onsumer-sales/

    Wall St FatBoy is a BIG FAT obstacle.

    My guess is that he vetoes the bill to protect the franchise dealers who overwhelmingly give to Repug politicians



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    http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/18/82...ships-christie

    In major reversal, New Jersey allows Tesla to sell its cars directly, without dealerships
    Governor Christie signed the bill into law this afternoon.

    lol at bouton's guesses.

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    www.theverge.com/2015/3/18/8251821/tesla-new-jersey-direct-sales-dealerships-christie

    In major reversal, New Jersey allows Tesla to sell its cars directly, without dealerships
    Governor Christie signed the bill into law this afternoon.

    lol at bouton's guesses.
    the NJ autodealer's will be very upset with Christie

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    Big whoop.

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    thanks, TB , your schadenfreude is adorable, GFY

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    Go climb a wall of s, moron.

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    boutons loses again. his prodigious losing streak on SpursTalk is still intact.

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    one would think, saying the same thing day in and day out, he would occasionally be right, just like a stopped watch is right twice a day, but even this level of monotony he cannot match: he's wrong almost all the time.

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    he's wrong almost all the time.

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    An Open Letter to Tesla, From Your Friendly Local Car Dealers

    Dear Tesla,

    I write to you from the law offices of Dwayne & Johnson on behalf of my client, the Totally Useful Retail Dealer Society. As the nation’s largest association of car dealers, my client objects to your omission of such dealers from your business plan. I hereby order you to cease and desist! Or just cease. Or desist. We can discuss the options. See, that’s a situation known as “negotiating.” Something you wouldn’t know much about, Tesla.

    Allow me to explain the myriad ways in which your dealer-free sales approach is misguided. First of all, our research shows that 85 percent of car shoppers love going to the dealer, while 15 percent super-duper love it. [Note: Respondents to our survey  were all under the age of  8, and the words “car dealer”  were replaced with the words “Disney World,” a fact that was clearly explained in the fine print of Appendix 8c.]

    I’m telling you, people love negotiating. Consumers hate having a clear, fixed price that everyone understands. The dealer-franchise model lets them feel as if they got a deal, while not really getting a deal. Everyone wins. And haggling over prices is deeply ingrained in American culture. I mean, Moroccan culture.


    Now, you may enjoy selling your cars with no middleman and just keeping all the money. But I ask, have you considered letting us have some of that money? It is our position that we would like some of the money. In return, we will have buildings with desks inside and some garage bays where we’ll do oil changes while customers watch

    The Price Is Right. What, you don’t need oil changes? Well, we’ll think of something along those lines. Maybe it’s like, electron refurbishment every three months. I just made that up, but it sounds right.

    I’m telling you, Tesla, your customers need us. What happens when they’re driving their new Model Sand a taillight goes out? Okay, yes, you’ll email them one to print on their home 3-D manufacturing apparatus. Tesla owners are pretty techy. What if that happened to a Lexus ES350 owner, though? Our research shows that Lexus owners visit the dealer an average of twice a month, for reasons including “bugs on the windshield” and “my grandson put the Skrillex disc in the radio and now I can’t get it out.”

    Speaking of  Lexus, they’re on our side, just like every other car company. GM loves us, that’s for sure. GM stands shoulder to shoulder with dealers, united in opposition to Tesla’s franchise-flaunting ways. They issued a statement saying: “If we have to have dealers, then Tesla better damn well have some dealers.

    Sure, we’d love to just sell you a Cadillac direct on the internet, but our dealers won’t let us. Isn’t that crazy? We do the research and development and design and manufacturing, and we have factories and production lines and test tracks. And then some guys with bad coffee and overpriced wiper blades dictate how we can sell our products. It makes us so mad that sometimes we get passive-aggressive and punk them with something like the Cadillac ELR. You’re so good at selling, let’s see you try to sell that!”



    Tesla Model X

    Okay, so our relationship with GM is complicated. It has been ever since they launched Saturn, an entire brand based on the notion that the dealers wouldn’t savage you. It’s hard to believe now, but people would actually  walk into a dealership and buy a Saturn Ion just so they  wouldn’t have to meet a Plymouth salesman. That humbling realization prompted us to create a robust ethics certification process, the Dealers United Professional Education Seminars. Salespeople certified under this course are courteous, professional, and required by law to disclose how many felonies they’ve committed. It’s progress.

    We know you see yourself as a disruptor, Tesla, but I don’t think you understand how many people you’re disrupting. Car dealerships are financial ecosystems in their own right, spurring economic *activity in a range of related sectors. The inflatable-dancing-guy industry depends on car dealers, as does the low-budget family-TV-commercial business. Think about how you’re missing out on that one. Scene: An older guy in a showroom says, “Come on down to the Teslathon and you’re gonna beshocked at our prices!” Then a younger woman standing next to him rolls her eyes and says, “Daaaad.” You know, like she’s embarrassed, but really they all love each other.

    In conclusion, Tesla, I’d hate myself if I let you leave here without the peace of mind of an extended warranty, so I’m going to talk to the sales manager and see if we can’t do that for just an extra $53 per month over your 95-month loan.

    Man, I really think we’re gonna be friends even after you sign this paperwork, Tesla. We definitely have to hang out. I just need to go finalize your undercoating insurance with my manager, so if you want, you can just go get comfortable in our lounge. I think it’s almost time for the Showcase Showdown.

    http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/...dealers-column



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    FTC -slapping a red-state, anti-free-market, screw-citizens, Kockistan dystopia

    FTC Smacks Down Michigan For Trying To Ban Tesla Sales: Didn't We Already Warn You About This?


    A little over a year ago, we noted how nice (if somewhat surprising) it was to see the FTC take a stand for Tesla and its direct sales model. Just as states -- generally under pressure from auto dealers who hate competing with Tesla -- were starting to explore laws to ban Tesla from those states, the FTC noted that it felt many of these plans were designed to hold back compe ion and innovation and it was prepared to step in. A year ago, it said things like this:

    Removing these regulatory impediments may be essential to allow consumers access to new ways of shopping that have become available in many other industries.

    Shots fired. In response to this (and public outcry), New Jersey and some other states appeared to back down. But not Michigan, home to the big US automakers, who aren't at all happy with this new upstart compe or from California. Last fall, Michigan passed a law that made it even more difficult for direct sales like Tesla. The FTC didn't do anything specifically about that (yet), but there's a new bill under discussion in Michigan that would carve out an exception to the new ban on direct sales of vehicles, but just for a new category called "autocycles," such as those from
    Elio Motors. The FTC used this opportunity to question why there's a ban on direct sales of vehicles in the first place.

    In a letter commenting on the Michigan proposal, FTC staff supports the movement to allow for direct sales to consumers—not only Tesla or Elio, but for any company that decides to use that business model to distribute its products. Blanket prohibitions on direct manufacturer sales to consumers are an anomaly within the larger economy. Most manufacturers and suppliers in other industries make decisions about how to design their distribution systems based on their own business considerations, responding to consumer demand. Many manufacturers choose some combination of direct sales and sales through independent retailers.

    Typically, no government intervention is needed to augment or alter these compe ive dynamics—the market polices inefficient, unresponsive, or otherwise inadequate distribution practices on its own. If the government does intervene, it should adopt restrictions that are clearly linked to specific policy objectives that the legislature believes warrant deviation from the beneficial pressures of compe ion, and should be no broader than necessary to achieve those objectives.

    Opening the door by a crack is a step in the right direction, and we urge policymakers in Michigan to take this small step. But beyond company-specific fixes lies a much larger issue: who should decide how consumers shop for products they want to buy? Protecting dealers from abuses by manufacturers does not justify a blanket prohibition like that in the current Michigan law, which extends to all vehicle manufacturers, even those like Tesla and Elio who have no interest in entering into a franchise agreement with any dealer.

    The full letter is below -- and it does a nice point-by-point debunking of the laughable arguments by those who insist bans on direct sales to consumers are necessary. Here's just a snippet:


    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...out-this.shtml



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    Rigmarole Required To Buy Tesla Model S In Texas

    Because of very strong dealership franchise laws and a buttload of lobbying money, Tesla store representatives are prevented from giving you any kind of pertinent of useful information related to pricing. That means potential buyers are in the dark regarding costs, tax credits, financing, and leasing options. Tesla sales people can’t even offer test drives, and many customers leave the two Texas-area stores frustrated due to lack of info.

    The most Tesla store reps can do in Texas is refer you to the website. If you actually want to buy a Tesla Model S, you have to do so through a California dealership. Tesla will then ship you your car on an unmarked transport with no new-car orientation or anything. They drop off the car and you’re on your own.

    It’s the same case with Tesla-owned service centers, which cannot advertise that they offer Tesla service, or even display the Tesla Motors logo. They can’t even tell customers if there is a problem with their car; all that info has to be re-routed through Tesla’s California headquarters. Texas Tesla Model S are ineligible for Tesla’s buyback program, and because the sales are handled as out-of-state transactions, some customers are paying a higher interest rate, if they can get financed at all.

    Even so, Tesla has managed to sell over 1,000 Model S sedans in Texas, though those numbers would no doubt be much higher if it were easier to buy the electric car. This has Musk considering a campaign on Washington to dismantle dealership franchise laws nationwide. It won’t be an easy fight, but it could have far-reaching consequences for more than just Tesla.

    http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/29/...3CPa3DJswzH.99

    Any Repug politician going to propose to liberalize car sales in TX? no


    Yet another way in which the GOP says one thing, and does another.

    This has more to do with special interests buying state government than a political party tho'. The GOP just happens to be in power, and the Dems did plenty of it when they had the reins, I'm sure.

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    http://fortune.com/2015/05/18/tesla-texas/

    The electric car company hits a roadblock in Texas

    Another bit of bad news for Tesla: Texas will not be allowing the auto manufacturer to sell direct to consumers after legislation failed to pass the state legislature despite support from both parties.

    The deadline passed for the bill late last week, AutoBlogreports. It would have allowed Tesla stores in Texas to actually help customers get into an electric car. Currently, the law doesn’t allow pricing displays or test drives, a rule designed to protect franchise dealers. Unlike most car manufacturers, Tesla sells its cars directly to consumers rather than through dealerships.

    Democratic state Rep. Senfronia Thompson criticized the company by saying that “it would have been wiser if Mr. Tesla had sat down with the car dealers first.” But there is no “Mr. Tesla” involved in the company, which is named after the late inventor Nikola Tesla and is founded and run by Elon Musk.


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    Tesla Sales Still Unwelcome In Texas, Hypocritical Governor Says

    Abbott told Bloomberg Radio yesterday that he still wants to stick with Tesla being outlawed and customer wishes being ignored… in other words.

    In his words (via Electrek): “Texas has a very robust,
    very open, very effective automobile sector that seems like it’s working quite well the way that it is. If you’re going to have a breakdown in a car, you need to have a car dealership there to make sure that the vehicle is going to be taken care of. We haven’t seen that from Tesla.”

    And as Fred Lambert of Electrek very aptly notes:

    It’s not clear whether the Governor is referencing particular events or if he literally “hasn’t seen” anything from Tesla.


    Tesla operates 4 service centers in Texas, they have a roadside assistance service and they operate a fleet of “Tesla Rangers”- technicians on the road providing assistance and making minor repairs. Earlier this year, Consumer Reports gave Tesla’s service the top ranking among the industry.


    The service scores were compiled through a survey of subscribers who had repairs made on more than 121,000 vehicles, and Tesla came out on top.

    http://cleantechnica.com/2015/07/16/...governor-says/

    As do ented in my "Repug history" thread, Repugs have NOTHING BUT LIES.



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    Another red state worshipping the "free market"

    Tesla Will Butt Heads With Michigan Buttheads Again

    Tesla has been blocked from selling its cars directly to Michigan residents for several years.

    Last year, the Michigan legislature
    passed a new law making it crystal clear that Tesla was not welcome in The Great Lake State.

    Governor Rick Snyder, a man who knows which side his bread is buttered on, signed the bill about 10 seconds after it was enacted.

    Thanks to a very powerful franchise dealer association, Michigan has drawn a bright red line around itself proclaiming “No Tesla Allowed.”

    One suspects the Big Three automakers, all of whom have their corporate offices in Michigan, may have had something to do with this as well.

    http://gas2.org/2015/12/05/tesla-will-butt-heads-with-michigan-buttheads-again/



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    Tesla Sales Still Unwelcome In Texas, Hypocritical Governor Says

    Abbott told Bloomberg Radio yesterday that he still wants to stick with Tesla being outlawed and customer wishes being ignored… in other words.

    In his words (via Electrek): “Texas has a very robust,
    very open, very effective automobile sector that seems like it’s working quite well the way that it is. If you’re going to have a breakdown in a car, you need to have a car dealership there to make sure that the vehicle is going to be taken care of. We haven’t seen that from Tesla.”

    And as Fred Lambert of Electrek very aptly notes:

    It’s not clear whether the Governor is referencing particular events or if he literally “hasn’t seen” anything from Tesla.


    Tesla operates 4 service centers in Texas, they have a roadside assistance service and they operate a fleet of “Tesla Rangers”- technicians on the road providing assistance and making minor repairs. Earlier this year, Consumer Reports gave Tesla’s service the top ranking among the industry.


    The service scores were compiled through a survey of subscribers who had repairs made on more than 121,000 vehicles, and Tesla came out on top.

    http://cleantechnica.com/2015/07/16/...governor-says/

    As do ented in my "Repug history" thread, Repugs have NOTHING BUT LIES.


    Dealers are typically the biggest rip off when if comes to having the car you bought from them serviced unless it's something that's covered under warranty.

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    Dealers are typically the biggest rip off when if comes to having the car you bought from them serviced unless it's something that's covered under warranty.
    They now resist selling EVs because they are so reliable. The dealers' after-sale service is where most of their margin is.

    Just one big EV battery breakthrough will disrupt the auto distributors, upend their entire business model, to say nothing of drop in gasoline purchases.

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    Another red state worshipping the "free market"

    Tesla Will Butt Heads With Michigan Buttheads Again

    Tesla has been blocked from selling its cars directly to Michigan residents for several years.

    Last year, the Michigan legislature
    passed a new law making it crystal clear that Tesla was not welcome in The Great Lake State.

    Governor Rick Snyder, a man who knows which side his bread is buttered on, signed the bill about 10 seconds after it was enacted.

    Thanks to a very powerful franchise dealer association, Michigan has drawn a bright red line around itself proclaiming “No Tesla Allowed.”

    One suspects the Big Three automakers, all of whom have their corporate offices in Michigan, may have had something to do with this as well.

    http://gas2.org/2015/12/05/tesla-will-butt-heads-with-michigan-buttheads-again/


    Do you think Michigan residents should be prevented from buying whatever they want? Those who don't get with the program and innovate will fall behind - see Uber and the taxi cabs. This interference by government is what gets to me - who in the do they think they are telling me what I can or cannot buy? That's one of the reasons why Obamacare just sticks in my gut - them telling me what I HAVE to buy. The county commissioners voted in Broward county to halt Uber - the residents protested and they were forced to re-instate Uber.

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    They now resist selling EVs because they are so reliable. The dealers' after-sale service is where most of their margin is.

    Just one big EV battery breakthrough will disrupt the auto distributors, upend their entire business model, to say nothing of drop in gasoline purchases.
    What is EV?

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    That's one of the reasons why Obamacare just sticks in my gut - them telling me what I HAVE to buy.
    Totally different. Taxpayers will cover your medical disasters at public-financed facilities, allowing you to ripoff taxpayers, dumping your medical bills on them.

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