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    Counsleor Crayola cannot make a coherent argument. Instead we get him repeating snark ad nauseum. How edgy.

    If you don't understand that grossly underestimating 'most statistical reports,' undermines your veracity on how most people overestimate themthat is one thing but I just said 'a claim.' You did make a claim as to what the statistical reports said.

    This is the type of lack of nuance and critical thinking that is going to keep you as an associate.

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    no instant response this time? Finally get it after being explained the 4th time, dimwit?

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    Holy the stupidity is amazing. Will be even funnier watching him try and spin it once he realizes it

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    Try a different account.

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    Sometimes you just have to admit you screwed up

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    "Americans' estimate"

    You are taking dumb every day of the week


    inb4 i get reminded that i'm on ignre

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    I think the better question is what point is there to the statistic in either case? I'm arguing a point of fact. 2-8% is a gross underestimation. I know you want me to argue against as a general rule that people misunderstanding reality but that is not the case.

    Why don't you accuse me of ratting on people? That is always fun.

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    I think the better question is what point is there to the statistic in either case? I'm arguing a point of fact. 2-8% is a gross underestimation. I know you want me to argue against as a general rule that people misunderstanding reality but that is not the case.

    Why don't you accuse me of ratting on people? That is always fun.
    Gallup:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/am...y-lesbian.aspx

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    PRINCETON, N.J. -- The American public estimates on average that 23% of Americans are gay or lesbian, little changed from Americans' 25% estimate in 2011, and only slightly higher than separate 2002 estimates of the gay and lesbian population. These estimates are many times higher than the 3.8% of the adult population who identified themselves as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender in Gallup Daily tracking in the first four months of this year.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx

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    Reader's Digest Version (Again, Gallup)
    These estimates are many times higher than the 3.8% of the adult population who identified themselves as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender in Gallup Daily tracking in the first four months of this year.

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    Sure but what does it say when our local militia front sees it being 4 times less? Given this forum and the people in it, your little factoid is not apt.

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    Sure but what does it say when our local militia front sees it being 4 times less? Given this forum and the people in it, your little factoid is not apt.

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    Sure but what does it say when our local militia front sees it being 4 times less? Given this forum and the people in it, your little factoid is not apt.
    What?

    I thought you liked Gallup.

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    What?

    I thought you liked Gallup.
    Again. I am not arguing that most people misunderstand reality. They say 1 in 5 men is gay. Half of people think it is 1 in 5 or more while the other half think it is less. 53% think its more.



    So what exactly am I supposed to take from this? I keep waiting for a point. I just told you what I took from this.

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    you're backpedaling. you implied the gallup poll was an accurate portrayal of the actual gay population.

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    Reader's Digest Version (Again, Gallup)
    YOu do understand that self identifying polls are not considered valid. Particularly in this case given social stigma.

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    Different one. No I don't think your TSA.

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    Fuzzy backpedaling at an epic rate

    In fairness, most statistical reports show the 2-8% of all men being , but still way off from the average of 40% quoted in that clip.
    In fairness, you have no basis to make a claim like that.



    Here is Gallup. I will take that over dumb every day and twice on Sundays.
    I think I missed something. What is wrong with vy65's statement?
    Specifically?

    most statistical reports show the 2-8% of all men being
    Look to the number to the right of the word 'men' in the gallup infographic and tell us what that number is. Now compare and contrast with the number quoted.
    ergo you implied your gallup poll was accurate as to the ACTUAL gay population when it was merely "americans' estimates"

    now you're trying to brush it off like "oh i knew they were estimates all along"

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    YOu do understand that self identifying polls are not considered valid. Particularly in this case given social stigma.
    You said you trusted Gallup (in case you forgot, I can't assume any amount of mental prowess on your part). You also have a problem with basic reasoning. If I could type in Crayon, Fuzzy, I would.

    Just trying to help.

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    You said you trusted Gallup (in case you forgot, I can't assume any amount of mental prowess on your part). You also have a problem with basic reasoning. If I could type in Crayon, Fuzzy, I would.

    Just trying to help.

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    "Americans' estimate"

    You are taking dumb every day of the week

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    Holy the stupidity is amazing. Will be even funnier watching him try and spin it once he realizes it

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    inb4 i get reminded that i'm on ignre

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    PRINCETON, N.J. -- The American public estimates on average that 23% of Americans are gay or lesbian, little changed from Americans' 25% estimate in 2011, and only slightly higher than separate 2002 estimates of the gay and lesbian population. These estimates are many times higher than the 3.8% of the adult population who identified themselves as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender in Gallup Daily tracking in the first four months of this year.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx

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