Jimmer Fredette to the Spurs (Update: Mostly Non-Guaranteed Training Camp Deal)

[timvp]

Unlike some of you, I really don't see Pop playing Fredette at the PG spot. He will be an undersized SG whose role will be to bring a coring punch form the end of the bench with some 3 pointers.

Agreed. No way Jimmer is a point guard. Patty is barely a point guard and he makes Jimmer look like John Stockton. At best, Jimmer at point guard would work out about as well as RMJ at point guard. In other words, struggle to bring the ball up the court and then either hand the ball of to Manu or run the world's simplest high pick-and-roll.

I'd put the point guard depth chart as:

Parker
Mills
McCallum
Ginobili
Simmons
Fredette

[Spurtacular]

There was definitely some trash talk between the two in college.

I watched the games, and I never saw it. For that matter, I never saw Jimmer directly trash talk anyone in college or the pros. I know there's that GIF of Kawhi talking like a jack-ass. But that's not cos Jimmer was trash talking.

[Spurtacular]

Agreed. No way Jimmer is a point guard. Patty is barely a point guard and he makes Jimmer look like John Stockton. At best, Jimmer at point guard would work out about as well as RMJ at point guard. In other words, struggle to bring the ball up the court and then either hand the ball of to Manu or run the world's simplest high pick-and-roll.

I'd put the point guard depth chart as:

Parker
Mills
McCallum
Ginobili
Simmons
Fredette

Jimmer can be slowed; but he gets the ball up the court. And he's great in the pick n' roll. Also, he can pull up and just nail a three on a sleeping guard. Giving Jimmer some minutes at PG is not gonna be a problem offensively. The concern is always going to be his defense; and that concern isn't gonna change based on whether he plays the 2 or the 1.

[Spurtacular]

Gonzaga was a top twenty team that Jimmer dismantled in the tourney. Of course, the committee manipulated it so that the two so-called mid majors would be playing earlier in the tournament to eliminate serious competish. You know how they do it.

[ElNono]

Kinda like Green, like Mills, like Baynes, like SJax. C'mon, man. Jimmer is very talented offensively. He reminds me of Patty 2.0. Shooters like him mesh very well in the Spurs system.

Not really, none of them were a top 10 pick in the draft. Those guys normally get the benefit of the doubt.

[ElNono]

Do you think he will team with Bonner to core pears as well as cherries and apples for the PPopper after game bashes?
Cause i really love pears.
ElNono said additionally some dynomite recipies including red ingrediants have been cooked up since the signing of Bonbon.

We're already scheduling an event to celebrate the Jimmer Jam... will keep you posted.

[Aztecfan03]

Agreed. No way Jimmer is a point guard. Patty is barely a point guard and he makes Jimmer look like John Stockton. At best, Jimmer at point guard would work out about as well as RMJ at point guard. In other words, struggle to bring the ball up the court and then either hand the ball of to Manu or run the world's simplest high pick-and-roll.

I'd put the point guard depth chart as:

Parker
Mills
McCallum
Ginobili
Simmons
Fredette

Did you mean Jimmer makes Patty look like Stockton?

[Nathan89]

Before and after for Kawhi Leonard after 4 years with the Spurs:


Before and after for Jimmer Fredette after 4 years elsewhere:


Hmmm.... Spurs must be juicing their players!

Jimmer was already strong coming out of college. He got 14 bench reps at the combine and Kawhi got 3.

[Aztecfan03]

I watched the games, and I never saw it. For that matter, I never saw Jimmer directly trash talk anyone in college or the pros. I know there's that GIF of Kawhi talking like a jack-ass. But that's not cos Jimmer was trash talking.

Starts at 3:23


“Stop talking trash! Stop talking trash!” Fredette yelled..."What are you going to do about it? Huh? Huh? Do something; I dare you." “I’m not going to repeat anything that (Leonard) said,” Fredette told the media. “But he was excited that they won. He decided to say some things. I’m not going to back down. I said a couple things as well.”

http://www.thedailyaztec.com/2011/03...mmer-is-human/

[Spurtacular]

So we put Bonner at the 5 Kwahi at the 4, Green at the 3 Jimmer at the 2 and Mills at the 1. We getting a 3 off. And it's going to be a high percentage shot.

That might be the ultimate small ball line-up. We could see that in a game that the Spurs are up 15 or more...

[Spurtacular]

I don't know that I'd qualify that as trash talk. Leonard was the one talking. The fact that Jimmer didn't back down doesn't really qualify as trash talk necessarily...

Honestly, I wish Jimmer would do more talking like he did there. Too many times in the pros, he has not taken the opportunity to get in an opponent's head. Frankly, many NBA players have fragile psyches. If you talk and pop a couple in their face, they're in your pocket. He should learn how emotionally destabalize players at this level. It's been a real weakness for him. Too much Mr. Nice Guy out there.

[Spurtacular]

Did you mean Jimmer makes Patty look like Stockton?

I think he did; to which, I disagree. Jimmer never has got his assist numbers up; but he looked like Steve Nash on some passing plays in his rookie season especially.

BTW, Patty was a great facilitator in college. The Spurs decided he need to be more of a shoot first guard though.

[BatManu20]

[tholdren]

Big College Star goes pro...

Sad part is if he would have gone to san antonio he would be a better version of bonner. Instead he wound up on a trash organizations. You can't take a team player and put him on a garbage team and expect him to produce. All players have a niche and their team either positively or negatively impacts his attributes. Stop giving college poy to owners of ppg

[timvp]

Did you mean Jimmer makes Patty look like Stockton?

Yeah, thanks bra.

[bic50]

I don't know that I'd qualify that as trash talk. Leonard was the one talking. The fact that Jimmer didn't back down doesn't really qualify as trash talk necessarily...

Honestly, I wish Jimmer would do more talking like he did there. Too many times in the pros, he has not taken the opportunity to get in an opponent's head. Frankly, many NBA players have fragile psyches. If you talk and pop a couple in their face, they're in your pocket. He should learn how emotionally destabalize players at this level. It's been a real weakness for him. Too much Mr. Nice Guy out there.

Theres a few stories going around about what happened. Some saying jimmer started the trash talking and kawhi was responding to him. But apparently they are friends and kawhi stood up for jimmer on his struggles in the nba. Saying something along the lines that hes a hard worker and talented and just needs a chance.

[gospursgojas]

Big College Star goes pro...

I remember when the NBA tried to change to those stupid balls.

[Spurtacular]

Theres a few stories going around about what happened. Some saying jimmer started the trash talking and kawhi was responding to him. But apparently they are friends and kawhi stood up for jimmer on his struggles in the nba. Saying something along the lines that hes a hard worker and talented and just needs a chance.

It wouldn't make much sense for Jimmer to start something up after an 18 point loss on the road. That was Kawhi. There's gifs on it too. But yes, Jimmer didn't take it too personal. He invited Kawhi to headline at his Jimmer's All-Stars before their rookie year. Run of the mill players made $10K. I'm assuming Kawhi made even more. So, Kawhi was able to line his pocket up front before the real NBA money came in thanks to Jimmer.

But my point is I'd love to see Jimmer embrace talking. It may go against his moral code though.

[Spurtacular]

Bonner still finds a way to hang around.

Did they try to take scrubiest pic they could take or what?

[Spurtacular]

From Jimmer and KL's rookie seasons (link)

[jesterbobman]

I didn't like this when first rumoured, but it's a great TC invite for slot #15.

He's not really a PG, but with the ability of all 4 of the main front court guys to pass, and that of most of the wing rotation (Manu, Kawhi, Simmons/ Anderson (Hopefully at NBA level)) to be solid creators, we don't need a TJ Ford type - A run around gunner works. Mills is the clear #1 for that situation, though Jimmer works there.

[G-Dawgg]

Who knows.. Maybe Jimmer Fredette could have a Steve Kerr like career. He seems like a very similar type player with the same type of skill set, defense and athleticism but with more range. He'll likely spend some time in the D-League learning the system then he may join the team as the last man off the bench. If he responds well, maybe they bring him back next year and give him some spot minutes..

[ceperez]

He stills seems to have a pause before he releases the ball. Hope PATFO fixes that quirk!

[cjw]

Did they try to take scrubiest pic they could take or what?

Didn't Austin Daye have to put on his jersey after the game?

[Maddog]

https://twitter.com/danmccarneySAEN/...10409416171521


Pretty good summary that kind of reiterates things discussed here.
1. Jimmer sharing the same agent as David West played a role in getting the contact
2. Probably a long shot
3. Probably his last shot at the NBA had very little intest from other teams