Porker Looking Like Parker Again, Tbh

[dgspursforlife]

This is going to be a long off season with the same takes getting repeated daily...

[LiSpurs516]

Unless Ray is a star in the making, we need to accept that Tony is an important part of this team. Without him we dont get Timmy 6, tbh. Tony being back in shape is definitely a good sign that he's serious about this season

[littlecoyotecoin]

I'm saying you still can't call tp a three point shooter, certainly not a good three point shooter, he didn't prove it...

That's not what you or Bryant said. Had you said that, I would have agreed. Tony is not a 3 point specialist. But, he has demonstrated that he definitely can transition his style of play later in his career to being a better 3 point shooter, and everything else that was said about his 3 point shot was incorrect.

Actually, now that I reread the second part of your statement, you didn't amend your statement as much as I thought with the "he didn't prove it". He did prove it. That's what all those numbers you two got wrong or want to ignore show. He has become a very capable 3 point shooter, while it still not being his primary weapon.

[jhfenton]

damn player fans are getting worse by the day.

POS

I couldn't agree more.

Whatever gives the team a better opportunity to win.

I'm all the about the team not the player.

No, seriously, I mean....

[look_at_g_shred]

At this point, all these fans are no different than kobe fans.

we all know Kobe is detrimental to his team but he's never going be traded ever...does that mean as team fans, we should just accept the egomaniac?

oh he's going to be here forver so might as well respect him

Ignoring the faxt that he's detrimental to the team and to the development of the players around him..

If he's not going to accept a significant reduction in the offensive role, I wish and pray that he gets injured big time..Only bexause I am a team fan and the only thing that matters for me is the name in the front of the jersey and not back.

Accept a role, great..Don't, we wish you injury Mr Parker.

Wow! What a head.

[kobyz]

That's not what you or Bryant said. Had you said that, I would have agreed. Tony is not a 3 point specialist. But, he has demonstrated that he definitely can transition his style of play later in his career to being a better 3 point shooter, and everything else that was said about his 3 point shot was incorrect.

Actually, now that I reread the second part of your statement, you didn't amend your statement as much as I thought with the "he didn't prove it". He did prove it. That's what all those numbers you two got wrong or want to ignore show. He has become a very capable 3 point shooter, while it still not being his primary weapon.

I don't know if shooting great for 2-3 months with above 50% and then after the Allstar break returning to your formar self with shooting in the 20% is enough to prove it...

[littlecoyotecoin]

I don't know if shooting great for 2-3 months with above 50% and then after the Allstar break returning to your formar self with shooting in the 20% is enough to prove it...

He shot better the last 4/5 YEARS than he did the previous NINE years, except for one year where he shot .395. This is not a couple months that you are parsing out of his BEST year in some bizarre attempt to show that he didn't have his best year ever. If you pick your data correctly, you can show that he shot zero percent from 3. You're not trying hard enough.

He did have a year, but attacking his 3 point shooting exemplifies a complete lack of understanding that pervades your groups' arguments.

[AFBlue]

So vital that in '14 they won the West w/o him and clinched a le with him shooting 0-11 the first three quarters. Or won a game without him last year vs LA and in general just looked so much better without him on the court.

This myth that the Spurs need him is BS. They just need him to stay the out of the way.

He led the team in scoring and assists during the playoffs. False narrative is false.

[AFBlue]

Well, he's vital, tbh... Pop is gonna trot him out there rain or shine and he's on an untradeable contract, especially if he keeps playing like last season...

So let's hope he regains some of his ability, or he "shows leadership" as Pop told him in the 2014 Finals, and gets out of the way...

Apa and his idiotic crew would rather Parker suffer a catastrophic injury and count on Ray McCallum and a tired old Ginobili to carry the load as primary ball handlers for the team. Great basketball minds tbqh.

[From Downtown]

We won't get far without TP having at least an average season,and the same goes for Kawhi,Manu,TD etc.
Accept that

[703 Spurz]

I think Tony checked Twitter and had enough, tbh. The internet spoke, Tony listened.

Internet tough guys jealous of the **** Tony hauls in

[J_Paco]

Spurs fans are pathetic, tbh..

Back in December, a bunch of us: Parker is on a clear decline, he's a net negative, etc
Most of the forum: OMGZ, shut up you guys!! stop killing our forum with these lies, he's gonna prove u all wrong!!!
Reality: Has an atrocious playoff run and looks finished

Back in December, a few of us: Parker looks fat, he needs to lose weight, he's clearly out of shape
Most of the forum: lulz, Parker is in great shape!!! y u guyz judging a pro athlete?!?!? hahah
After the Spurs were eliminated: Pop acknowledges Parker is going to "change his body", Parker plans to do an intense regiment for the first time in his career(in his own words), Parker gets slimmer and clearly loses at least 5 pounds, already

most people here a few steps behind, tbh..it's also sad that this is celebrating, as Parker was being paid 13 million last year, and it was potentially the final shot at a le in the Duncan era, yet he didn't commit to staying in shape and adjusting to age..when it's time to play for France, of course he decides to get in the best shape of his career, too..sad that "fans" accept this , tbh..

Big f'ing deal, do you want a cookie for mentioning that stuff ad nauseum for the last 8 months? Before he took his long hiatus Timvp made a thread examining the link between scoring, speed based point guards (Kevin Johnson, Isiah Thomas, etc.) and a sharp, drastic decline they suffer in their early 30's. Parker has maintained a high level of play throughout a majority of his time in a Spurs jersey, even with the playoff "failures," but all the basketball he's played (amounting to the career of a 37+ old veteran) was going to catch up soon rather than later. We'll have to see how he compensates for the loss in speed/quickness and if getting in better shape (which was never, ever his strongest attribute) can help lessen the effect.

Dated January 1, 2012 http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...+Kevin+Johnson

In the following list, the first number is their age of statistical decline as defined by PER dipping under 20 for last time. The number in parentheses is their statistical peak based on PER.

Isiah Thomas - 25 (23)
Calvin Murphy - 26 (25)
Walt Frazier - 27 (26)
Tiny Archibald - 28 (24)
Pistol Pete Maravich - 29 (28)
Kevin Johnson - 30 (24)
Gus Williams - 30 (28)

Adding to his point that I quoted:

Tony Parker - 30 (26)

[dbestpro]

The key word for Parker and the Spurs in 2016 is, "focus".
The key phrase, "Your focus needs focus."

[Stabula]

So many gots in here.

[Mikeanaro]

So many gots in here.

Agreed, so many gots trying to defend a 1 point playoff perfomer with no data to back up their claims, eye test divas... smh.

[K...]

wow, i thought Parker would be less radioactive after the season ends and the spurs got a big FA offseason haul. But nope. It's going to be 100% fun to troll y'all this year.


Look at what lame Apo is dragging up: 2014, fat, hates teammates, animal hurter. That's THREAD material there. LOL.

I expect Parker to be our 4rth best player this year. LMA, Kawhi, Duncan, Parker, Green, WEst. With Manu on a minutes restriction the spurs have no other playmaking guards. That's how he's head of the snake again.

[Mikeanaro]

Psss that snake has like 7 heads.

[spurraider21]

Legitimately curious to see if Parker adapts his game. Certainly hope so given that his extension just kicked in

[Spurtacular]

Championship??? Slow down that was the first round. I agree though they should have won that series.

The Clippers was the championship. We would have beat Houston. We most likely would have beat GS. And we would've crushed Cleveland. There's nothing to slow. Spurs blew golden opportunities in Gms 4 and 6 at home.

[Spurtacular]

That's the point.
He has been to plenty of "football" games as a Thierry Henry friend and a PSG fan. But he will at his first game of the ty football played in the USA and that is called "soccer"

That's like a NBA fans that would say, I'll watch my first "FIBA" game

You could be right; but I doubt Parker was meaning to insult his American fans. I think another poster said it right; that he had meant to say that he was going to his first whatever that team was called game.

Then again, I wouldn't put it past Parker to be an uppity ass.

[Yuixafun]

Psss that snake has like 7 heads.

Spurs have become Tiamat.. Dragon with many heads... Cept not evil

[Yuixafun]

You could be right; but I doubt Parker was meaning to insult his American fans. I think another poster said it right; that he had meant to say that he was going to his first whatever that team was called game.

Then again, I wouldn't put it past Parker to be an uppity ass.

I think Parker was being snarky too. Intentionally using the word soccer as a jab.... I've been to 3 Scorpions games, I had fun, but yea the quality of the game itself was impoverished lol

[Yuixafun]

The Clippers was the championship. We would have beat Houston. We most likely would have beat GS. And we would've crushed Cleveland. There's nothing to slow. Spurs blew golden opportunities in Gms 4 and 6 at home.

Game 7 had lots of ery at the end

[Spurtacular]

Game 7 had lots of ery at the end

Unfortunately, the one game of the series I was unable to see. Hopefully, someone posts a link of the game at some point.

[tholdren]

Parker was in way better shape than everyone on this board when they were calling him Porker (and pretty much everyone in those Tweets). Now it's not even funny.

I wholeheartedly disagree.