Who's squirming? If women want to donate, why not do it the way that will help the most?
i'm pro abortion and really don't care if they want to sell aborted fetuses. Just be honest and call it what it was. They were negotiating the sale and even discussed changing their medical procedures to maximize the harvest and thus maximize the proceeds.
Or, maximize efficiency to reduce the spend necessary in this process. We're not talking about a lot of money here. Y'all act like PP is making some kind of killing on fetal tissue.
LOL more spin. They are selling fetus's. The only additional "cost" to them is the trip to the bank to deposit the checks.
Factcheck.org:
Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”
At one point in the unedited video (which was also released by the group), Nucatola says: “Affiliates are not looking to make money by doing this. They’re looking to serve their patients and just make it not impact their bottom line.”
Nucatola also says, “No one’s going to see this as a money making thing.” And at another point, she says, “Our goal, like I said, is to give patients the option without impacting our bottom line. The messaging is this should not be seen as a new revenue stream, because that’s not what it is.”
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/
The only spin is coming from people duped by these videos.
Some is disturbing. Watching a brain surgery is disturbing. Watching brain surgeons discuss brain surgery over dinner is disturbing. Doesn't mean it's wrong.
I seriously can't believe anyone would think an organization illegally selling human tissue for profit would be accepting $30. This isn't weed.
can somebody give me the cliffnotes on exactly what happened? i havent bothered actually sitting through that video or reading the dozens of articles that have been posted, so i legitimately have no clue what's happened outside of reading these headlines
- did they or didn't they sell human tissue
- is that act legal or illegal
Spin, spin. When asked if $100 per fetus was enough she also said she would have to check around and see what everyone else was getting. That's selling fetus's guys. Just admit it.
Who said illegal? It's a loophole. They can be reimbursed for "cost". Only "cost" is handing the fetus to the buyer for scoring for viability and reimbursement. Reasonable cost is not defined. Bottom line the single facility they were talking about did hundreds of abortions a year. Selling the uncrunched ( her words) fetus turns into hundreds X hundreds of dollars a year which ain't chicken feed.
Last edited by CosmicCowboy; 07-28-2015 at 05:57 PM.
So what is the actual cost of the costs you mentioned?
Also, what is the actual value of human fetus tissue in an open market?
Cost is negligible.
Value is negotiable. She also said there were other players in the fetus market she was talking to. Apparently $100 was ballpark but she was going to check around and see if other clinics were getting more. Again, her words.
Btw, I didn't watch the video until I saw how excited chump and boutons were about defending her. Where there is a smoke screen there is typically fire. I utubed it and yeah, she was clearly negotiating selling fetus.
And you know this because....?
Did you watch the full video?
Nope, didn't need to. Her words were clear. She could have said a dozen times she wasn't selling fetus and that doesn't change that was exactly what she was doing. Everybody in prison says they are innocent too.
lol another sucker.
I thought you were smarter than this.
Get back to me with those itemized costs you got from selling all those fetuses.
Yeah CC you're better than to be duped by this. Read up.
that 3rd video was the worst so far, IMO. haggling over how much they could make and how they didn't want to low ball it so they could make more, makes me sick.
The Repugs refuse to pass a multi-year highway funding plan, not enough time, but they can RACE to defund PP after a fabricated, dishonest, probably illegal sting.
Senate GOP Fast-Tracks Bill To Defund Planned Parenthood
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ushpmg00000003
you rightwingnuts elect REPEATEDLY total assholes. Thanks, rightwingnuts!
Radical Anti-Abortion Activists Descend on Alabama
Supporters of the extreme anti-abortion group Operation Save America recently spent a week in a handful of Alabama cities, protesting abortion, same-sex marriage and Islam, as they have done for a number of years in different regions of the country.
Mia Raven, a volunteer escort at the facility and director of legislative affairs for Alabama Reproductive Rights Advocates, explains how the clinic usually sees just a few protesters, but with Operation Save America in town, the scene is "completely different." She explains the long history of violence aimed at abortion clinics in Alabama and elsewhere in the country, and says she's not immune to fears of such violence. "I do not take the same route to the clinic, ever," she says. "Every morning we have the bomb squad come in [to] sweep the clinic.""It's very frightening. You have to watch your back when you do this kind of work in Alabama."
National Clinic Access Project Director Duvergne Gaines notes that John Brockhoeft – who has served prison time for firebombing abortion clinics – was in town during Operation Save America's week of action.
Alabama is one of a dozen states to have in effect a ban on abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy; legal experts widely consider such legislation to be uncons utional. The state also has a law on the books that allows courts to appoint lawyers for fetuses.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...JmcmFuY2UuY29t
ing Confederacy, ing Confederate Southern Baptist Bible humpers (1000s of whose women have had abortions).
Fourth Undercover Planned Parenthood Video Released — and It’s Graphic - Jul. 30, 2015 10:39am
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...intact-babies/
damning info from the investigation in Indiana:
Indiana on Thursday cleared Planned Parenthood facilities that perform abortions in the state of any wrongdoing in the handling of fetal tissue.
Gov. Mike Pence, a Republican, on July 16 ordered an investigation of Planned Parenthood facilities in Indianapolis, Bloomington and Merrillville to see if organs from aborted fetuses were being sold. He was among a number of conservative lawmakers around the country who have called for investigations after an anti-abortion group circulated a video it made secretly showing some of its national officials discussing how they obtain organs from aborted fetuses for research. Planned Parenthood, the nation's largest provider of abortions, has said its donations of fetal tissue for research are legal.
The Indiana Department of Health said in a statement Thursday that an investigation found no evidence of any laws being broken. Health department inspectors investigated the Indiana facilities on July 21.
Letters from the health department to the three Indiana facilities dated Tuesday and released to the media by Planned Parenthood said the agency had completed its investigation into the Planned Parenthood facilities that perform abortions in Indiana. The letters said the agency was "unable to find any non-compliance with state regulations. Therefore, no deficiencies were cited." The letters say the complaint is closed.
It's ALL legal. And Fed $$ aren't use for abortions. Repugs and Bible humpers fabricating outrage to inflame the base.
Repugs, Bible humpers, pro-lifers, 10Ks of whom have gotten abortions, offer NO ALTERNATIVE to abortion.
They must be in on it! Planned Parenthood clearly paid the investigators off with their lucrative gains in the $30 fetal organ black market.
Who are you going to believe, these investigators, or a video on the internet?
MORE bogus wing nut outrage....anyone really surprised?
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