Did I Stumble Upon Wild Cobra's Facebook?

[ChumpDumper]

To your last part yes, agreed. If the man has no say in the baby's life in either scenario...he wants/she doesn't or she wants/he doesn't, the man should at least have an option to bear no financial responsibility in the latter case. The woman is aware the baby is not wanted by the father, she can continue with the pregnancy and take sole responsibility. It makes no sense how it is now. The father wants it? Too ing bad she is aborting. The father doesn't want it? Too ing bad he's paying for it.

Why penalize the child who is born just because the father doesn't wanna? The father took the risk, not the child.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why penalize the child who is born just because the father doesn't wanna? The father took the risk, not the child.

The child isn't born yet, and the mother is ultimately making the decision to bring it into a world where the father doesn't want it.

[spurraider21]

Why penalize the child who is born just because the father doesn't wanna? The father took the risk, not the child.

the mother took a risk too. and if she knows she wont be able to be supported by the father, she can make her decision on how to proceed.

[ChumpDumper]

The child isn't born yet, and the mother is ultimately making the decision to bring it into a world where the father doesn't want it.

So, why penalize the child who is born just because the father doesn't wanna? The father took the risk, not the child.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So, why penalize the child who is born just because the father doesn't wanna? The father took the risk, not the child.

The child isn't born yet.

[ChumpDumper]

The child isn't born yet.

But the ones who are born after that are penalized because the father doesn't wanna. Why penalize the child who is born just because the father doesn't wanna? The father took the risk, not the child.

[spurraider21]

this is why options such as adoption and termination exist

[ChumpDumper]

this is why options such as adoption and termination exist

And it's why child support exists.

[spurraider21]

And it's why child support exists.

and some people here dont think the current policy is the best way to go about it

[ChumpDumper]

and some people here dont think the current policy is the best way to go about it

There's nothing stopping them from thinking that.

[spurraider21]

There's nothing stopping them from thinking that.

Right. This is a forum of discussion. And we are discussing our views.

Groundbreaking stuff.

[ChumpDumper]

Right. This is a forum of discussion. And we are discussing our views.

Groundbreaking stuff.

Yep. I haven't seen anything to change my mind tho. Education will help more than effectively eliminating all male responsibility for unplanned children.

[spurraider21]

Yep. I haven't seen anything to change my mind tho. Education will help more than effectively eliminating all male responsibility for unplanned children.

I don't think those options are mutually exclusive. Do you?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think those options are mutually exclusive. Do you?

I said one option is good and the other is not good. the one that is not good should be excluded.

[Splits]

this is why options such as adoption and termination exist

Such a shame your mother didn't exercise her inalienable right with the latter.

[spurraider21]

So did the woman.

If she wants to have the child, fine.

Holding the man strictly liable for sticking his in a woman doesn't strike me as a great stride in the direction of gender equality.

https://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTur...3468349284205/

so now sweden's liberal party is pushing this "male abortion" idea we were discussing here, with the man having a choice to "opt out" within the first 18 weeks. i dont like tyt for obvious reasons (the fact that they actually chose THAT name for their channel is pretty disgusting), but saw it posted on a friends feed and gave it a look

naturally if swedish liberals want to do it (and many liberals look to sweden as a shining beacon of liberalism at work), these ers agree wholeheartedly .... they do make a valid point that sweden does a better job supporting single parents and putting them in a position to raise a kid. though i think its a safe wager that if an american repulican originally pitched this idea, tyt would flip out and call them fascist mysogynists, etc

[vy65]

Say what you will, but I totally want to opt out of the baby I put inside Anahit.

[spurraider21]

Say what you will, but I totally want to opt out of the baby I put inside Anahit.