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... they become a zygote, months away from a person.
and what about all the zygotes that fertility clinics dispose of? that's abortion of a person, right?
Another interesting video on the matter.
... they become a zygote, months away from a person.
and what about all the zygotes that fertility clinics dispose of? that's abortion of a person, right?
There is only life and death. A zygote is alive meaning it is growing and developing. Just as an infant is not yet a child and a child is not yet an adult, humans go through various developmental stages in their lives hitting milestones along the way. So yes I consider that to be a human (a zygote has human DNA) and to abort a zygote is to abort a life.
Last edited by ddjeffries; 08-04-2015 at 10:17 PM.
So you want abortion 100% illegal. What do YOU do with all the unwanted babies? you assholes are pro-birth, not pro-life-after-birth
Last edited by boutons_deux; 08-05-2015 at 09:19 AM.
Kinda hard to call something that has human DNA not a human.
I value life over a woman's choice. Don't get pregnant, adoption, etc. ~97% of abortions are for casual reasons not tied to rape or health.
"Kinda hard to call something that has human DNA not a human."
so an amputated finger, leg, ear is a human. Typical bull .
"Don't get pregnant"
yeah, great advice that's got a rock-solid, proven track record.
So why do you anti-choicers also want to block women from getting contraception which leads to lower unwanted pregnancies and abortions?
CO had program than reduced abortion by 40%, but now the private funds have run out, and CO Repugs refuse to fund it, so Repugs, CO, TX, etc, will cause abortions to INCREASE dramatically by blocking contraception.
You Holy Roller Bible humption People, Repugs, etc really don't want women ing for fun, want to control women's' vaginas, sex lives.
fwiw, i'm completely pro abortion and i still recognize the difference between fertilized and unfertilized sex cells. the zygote has its own unique DNA. sex cells share the same DNA (well, they carry half the DNA) of its parent. the egg is all mama and the sperm is all daddy. the zygote is unique... its the child.
Each and every living cell in our body has DNA in it. Does that mean you think all cells have the right to life? You can't take that diseased liver out of me because the living cells are people too!
Says a man, clearly. Luckily we established your determination of "life" is silly.I value life over a woman's choice.
Link to stats showing 97% of abortions are for "casual" reasons?Don't get pregnant, adoption, etc. ~97% of abortions are for casual reasons not tied to rape or health.
"casual"
pro-birth slandering of women. Women don't get abortions "casually", just like people on welfare aren't driving Cadillacs.
Just so we are clear, this is what a second trimester fetus looks like.
well, we are multicellular organisms, so that just makes no sense. sure, the zygote is just one cell, but its merely the first cell of that life. plus, i'm willing to bet nobody has ever surgically aborted just a single cell, so thats irrelevant
I am pro abortion but lets call this what it is. That's killing a baby.
That one is probably worth some good money too. They obviously used a "less crunchy" method.
The beginning of life argument is not a winning argument for choice advocates. Ultimately, it's a subjective and emotional topic. The argument should always focus on a woman's dominion over her body.
to be fair, that chicken egg could very well be fertilized. A tiny white spec in the yolk is all that's visible in the early stages of fertilization
eggs sold to markets are refrigerated, so the egg would be sterilized very early on. sorta like plan b
If that is the case, then be prepared to fight a war on miscarriages.
http://miscarriage.about.com/od/preg.../70percent.htm
Somewhere between 10 and 70%, depending on how one defines terms, of all fertilizations don't succeed in producing a viable fetus.
I would not call it "killing a baby". If you have a part of a woman's body incapable of living outside her body at all, that is not a baby, any more than a spleen is a person.
I am with the supreme court on this. viability is about the only evidence-based definition that is logically possible.
Would you call denying an abortion to a women a "forced pregnancy"?
You don't choose to have a miscarriage. That's why it's so tragic, I know from experience.
Thing is, abortion is legal up to 24 weeks. And premature babies born before 24 weeks survive all the time, so that argument is bad because a medical definition of a baby is once birth happens.
Also, a spleen isn't a developing human just as sperm and an egg aren't. Once they join to form a zygote with human DNA, development and growth starts meaning life as begun.
"babies born before 24 weeks survive all the time,"
and lot of them, completely unviable beings, and not having completed nervous, cardiovascular, pulmonary systems, etc have life long health problems.
Wonderful that the docs and hospitals can save them, but they do pocket $1M+ for their effort.
Define "all the time." Babies born at 24 weeks survive about 50% of the time, and it gets exponentially worse as you work backwards. As I understand it, most doctors won't even provide intensive care for births at 23 weeks or earlier because it's such a long shot that they will survive.
So if a girl gets pregnant from rape, you think it's murder if she immediately gets an abortion? Just askin
Yes I do, but that's an extremely sensitive situation. Even though it would be too much to handle for most women to go through with that, it still isn't the child's fault. Terrible thing to happen, makes me sad for anyone who goes through that.
i need to define all the time? You're the one that said a baby is incapable of living outside of a woman's body. I simply stated that it happens all the time. Including my nieces.
sensitive murder
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