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    Comparing Daugherty to Duncan is like comparing Kobe to Jordan.
    Yeah, actually. Both comparisons have merit.

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    Yeah, actually. Both comparisons have merit.
    Very much.

    Having merit and actually being comparable are two different things.

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    MJ - Kobe is great
    Lakerfan - Game recognize game. He speaks the truth.

    MJ - Duncan would be great in any era
    Lakerfan - MJ is just being nice.

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    I've got two brothers - James and Larry - they're 5'4", 5'5" in height. (laughs) They gave me all I could ever ask for as a brother in terms of compe ion. You know you would think - my brother Larry is an ideal situation where small things come in small packages; this dude fought me every single day. And to the extent that my mother used to come out and make us come in because we were fighting way too much. And my older brother was always gone - he served in the Army for 31 years. (applause)


    That's Kobe.

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    I'm a homer, but I don't see anything insulting about comparing Duncan to Brad Daugherty. Had Daugherty played with a championship team and not been forced to retire at 29 he'd be a Hall of Famer, imo. Duncan is definitely a superior defensive player to Daugherty but offensively they're very comparable, imo. Either way it isn't as if Daugherty was some scrub. He was a damned good player.
    Had he played with a championship team? You mean like Sean Elliott, Avery Johnson, Tiago Splitter, Cory Joseph, Jeff Ayres? That caliber?

    You're the biggest two faced homer got on this forum.

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    Had he played with a championship team? You mean like Sean Elliott, Avery Johnson, Tiago Splitter, Cory Joseph, Jeff Ayres? That caliber?

    You're the biggest two faced homer got on this forum.
    I thought that was me

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    I thought that was me
    You're just a troll forum reject who has nothing else to do all day except empty his and piss sacks and wear out his ing keyboard typing brainless .

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    Had he played with a championship team? You mean like Sean Elliott, Avery Johnson, Tiago Splitter, Cory Joseph, Jeff Ayres? That caliber?

    You're the biggest two faced homer got on this forum.
    Don't get all butthurt over a simple statement, DMC. It's not like I called Duncan a coattail rider.

    It's just funny to me how people here get a hair up their butt whenever the Daugherty comparison comes up. You'd think they were comparing Tim to Yinka Dare and not a five-time All-Star who averaged 19.5/9.5 in an era of great big men.

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    Kobe got friend zoned by the GOAT

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    Lol...We all know it...its not like MJ can come out and say what we already know...the dudes les are suspect since he never repeated....so it's appropriate that MJ give Dorkan some a little props....that's all for media consumption....if he called Kwame Brown a flaming got..imagine what he'd call Tammy

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    I'm a homer, but I don't see anything insulting about comparing Duncan to Brad Daugherty. Had Daugherty played with a championship team and not been forced to retire at 29 he'd be a Hall of Famer, imo. Duncan is definitely a superior defensive player to Daugherty but offensively they're very comparable, imo. Either way it isn't as if Daugherty was some scrub. He was a damned good player.
    Brad would have been an all star in this era. Not sure what BNSF all spun up about the comparison I made. The only edge I'd give Duncan is defense and health. Brad was "The Big Fundamentals" before Duncan. Problem was he always seemed to get hurt. No doubt in my mind had Brad's health held up, MJ doesn't have 6 rangs. Y'all had some squads - just couldn't get over the hump. Brad's health cost y'all 2-3 rangs IMHO.

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    Brad would have been an all star in this era. Not sure what BNSF all spun up about the comparison I made. The only edge I'd give Duncan is defense and health. Brad was "The Big Fundamentals" before Duncan. Problem was he always seemed to get hurt. No doubt in my mind had Brad's health held up, MJ doesn't have 6 rangs. Y'all had some squads - just couldn't get over the hump. Brad's health cost y'all 2-3 rangs IMHO.
    Muahahhahahaa

    Stop posting and save those 3 brain cells you still have.

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    Don't get all butthurt over a simple statement, DMC. It's not like I called Duncan a coattail rider.

    It's just funny to me how people here get a hair up their butt whenever the Daugherty comparison comes up. You'd think they were comparing Tim to Yinka Dare and not a five-time All-Star who averaged 19.5/9.5 in an era of great big men.
    Anyone on a championship team is a champion, dimwit. You flip flop worse than your balding hero.

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    Brad would have been an all star in this era. Not sure what BNSF all spun up about the comparison I made. The only edge I'd give Duncan is defense and health. Brad was "The Big Fundamentals" before Duncan. Problem was he always seemed to get hurt. No doubt in my mind had Brad's health held up, MJ doesn't have 6 rangs. Y'all had some squads - just couldn't get over the hump. Brad's health cost y'all 2-3 rangs IMHO.
    How many strides would it take for Tim to cross the Rio Grande vs how many it would have taken Brad? That's the only real measurement you can attest to.

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    Stop talking about my Timmaaay!

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    You can talk about the dude all you like. Doesn't make a case for what you're trying to sell.

    Why are lakerfans always trying to diminish accomplishments made by their rival teams? Deluded s.

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    Anyone on a championship team is a champion, dimwit. You flip flop worse than your balding hero.
    I'm not sure what point you're even trying to make, tbh.

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    I'm not sure what point you're even trying to make, tbh.
    "Put him on a championship team and hes...."

    How about he put himself on a championship team? Who the made him play with sacks?

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    The GOAT

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    Brad would have been an all star in this era. Not sure what BNSF all spun up about the comparison I made. The only edge I'd give Duncan is defense and health. Brad was "The Big Fundamentals" before Duncan. Problem was he always seemed to get hurt. No doubt in my mind had Brad's health held up, MJ doesn't have 6 rangs. Y'all had some squads - just couldn't get over the hump. Brad's health cost y'all 2-3 rangs IMHO.
    Cavs were called a marshmallow team for a reason.

    They have good talent at every position.
    They have great team play on offense.

    The problem is that they are not tough in defense.
    Craig Ehlo was the designated Jordan defender. That alone means that they will not have won it all no matter how healthy Daugherty was.

    That said, I loved daughertys game, but his offense wasn't as strong as Duncan. He was the better passer, but Duncan was the better outside shooter, way better low post game, much better use of angles, better floaters, better driving to the basket (especially early in their respective careers), quicker release, basically better everything.

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    amb laying down some pipe!

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    "Put him on a championship team and hes...."

    How about he put himself on a championship team? Who the made him play with sacks?
    Can you say for sure that Tim would have rang had he been drafted by, say, Vancouver? It isn't as if he came into a situation, San Antonio's 1996-97 tank job notwithstanding. It wasn't Brad Daugherty's fault the Cavs didn't win a le in those years.

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    Cavs were called a marshmallow team for a reason.

    They have good talent at every position.
    They have great team play on offense.

    The problem is that they are not tough in defense.
    Craig Ehlo was the designated Jordan defender. That alone means that they will not have won it all no matter how healthy Daugherty was.

    That said, I loved daughertys game, but his offense wasn't as strong as Duncan. He was the better passer, but Duncan was the better outside shooter, way better low post game, much better use of angles, better floaters, better driving to the basket (especially early in their respective careers), quicker release, basically better everything.
    Jordan has his highest average (scoring wise) verses the Lakers. He absolutely torches us - and B Scott in particular. Yet Showtime used to roll his ass on the regular. Then for good measure, they beat the team (Celtics) that used to whoop his ass in the Finals twice. So I don't buy that Ehlo defending Jordan theory. MJ was probably the best individual player in the game since he was drafted in 1984, but he didn't win until Bird's back blew out, NBA expansion, and when Kareem retired (which signaled the end of Showtime). You don't have to stop Jordan to beat the Bulls, like Showtime demonstrated. The Bulls also had Phil vs Wilkens which represented the difference your Spurs enjoy with Pop patrolling your sidelines.

    Brad was soft, like Duncan is now. That's why he didn't rang in the '80s. I'd love to have seen Duncan go against the likes of Ewing, Oakley, Tree Rollins, The Worm, Mailman, Laimbeer, Mahorn, Anthony Mason, Barkley, X McDaniels, and a plethora of tough physical bigs. They would've punked Duncan just like they did Brad. , Duncan got punked in the 2004 Olympics playing against some foreigners. You think he would be able to hang in the '80s? I don't. Like I said, he'd be Brad Daughtery had he played in that era. That’s no slight. Brad made a few all star teams in an era with elite bigs. He was just soft.

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    Brad was soft, like Duncan is now. That's why he didn't rang in the '80s. I'd love to have seen Duncan go against the likes of Ewing, Oakley, Tree Rollins, The Worm, Mailman, Laimbeer, Mahorn, Anthony Mason, Barkley, X McDaniels, and a plethora of tough physical bigs. They would've punked Duncan just like they did Brad. , Duncan got punked in the 2004 Olympics playing against some foreigners. You think he would be able to hang in the '80s? I don't. Like I said, he'd be Brad Daughtery had he played in that era. That’s no slight. Brad made a few all star teams in an era with elite bigs. He was just soft.
    Mark Price was the guy opponents would physically punish, not Daugherty. Price- who was the real engine of that team- got the living crap beat out of him and the Cavs didn't have anyone who was willing or able to make people pay for doing so. They actually drafted Charles Oakley (a native Clevelander) in 1985 but traded his rights for Keith Lee. Oakley would have been exactly what the Cavs needed- a bodyguard for Mark Price.

    At the end of the day the Cavs just weren't good enough. They weren't physical enough, deep enough, athletic enough or tough enough. They weren't as good as the Bulls and probably weren't as good as Portland or Phoenix in the West. That was all there was to it.

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    Can you say for sure that Tim would have rang had he been drafted by, say, Vancouver? It isn't as if he came into a situation, San Antonio's 1996-97 tank job notwithstanding. It wasn't Brad Daugherty's fault the Cavs didn't win a le in those years.
    Tim was drafted by a team that never even made the Finals. Now he has 5 rings. That I can say for sure.

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