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    In the name of emotional well-being, college students are increasingly demanding protection from words and ideas they don’t like. Here’s why that’s disastrous for education—and mental health.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...n-mind/399356/

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    This is the worst generation.

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    but all y'all rednecks have no objection to scams like Oral Roberts, Liberty Uni's teaching bull , or taxpayer=financed Christian Taliban charter schools indoctrinating kids, or TX SBOE extremists rewriting history to exclude Tommy Jefferson, or say Geneis is equivalent to biological evolution, or conservative extremists intimidating AP subjects to "protect" students from America's murderous, disatrous, lost wars, that Hiroshima/Nagasaki were not slaughter of civilians, and totally unnecessary, etc, etc.

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    but all y'all rednecks have no objection to scams like Oral Roberts, Liberty Uni's teaching bull , or taxpayer=financed Christian Taliban charter schools indoctrinating kids, or TX SBOE extremists rewriting history to exclude Tommy Jefferson, or say Geneis is equivalent to biological evolution, or conservative extremists intimidating AP subjects to "protect" students from America's murderous, disatrous, lost wars, that Hiroshima/Nagasaki were not slaughter of civilians, and totally unnecessary, etc, etc.
    Immediate deflection to a canned ideological response. Case in point.

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    but all y'all rednecks have no objection to scams like Oral Roberts, Liberty Uni's teaching bull , or taxpayer=financed Christian Taliban charter schools indoctrinating kids, or TX SBOE extremists rewriting history to exclude Tommy Jefferson, or say Geneis is equivalent to biological evolution, or conservative extremists intimidating AP subjects to "protect" students from America's murderous, disatrous, lost wars, that Hiroshima/Nagasaki were not slaughter of civilians, and totally unnecessary, etc, etc.
    So what do you think of the actual article?

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    but all y'all rednecks have no objection to scams like Oral Roberts, Liberty Uni's teaching bull , or taxpayer=financed Christian Taliban charter schools indoctrinating kids, or TX SBOE extremists rewriting history to exclude Tommy Jefferson, or say Geneis is equivalent to biological evolution, or conservative extremists intimidating AP subjects to "protect" students from America's murderous, disatrous, lost wars, that Hiroshima/Nagasaki were not slaughter of civilians, and totally unnecessary, etc, etc.
    Both are ty. No one defends Oral Roberts U. Teaching creationism is public schools is an awful idea, etc...

    But the prevalence of this pc culture bull on college campuses is more widespread and far worse, imo.

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    Both are ty. No one defends Oral Roberts U. Teaching creationism is public schools is an awful idea, etc...

    But the prevalence of this pc culture bull on college campuses is more widespread and far worse, imo.
    I doubt it is more widespread when you have entire state systems of K-12 public education affected by decisions like textbook or curriculum alterations.

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    I doubt it is more widespread when you have entire state systems of K-12 public education affected by decisions like textbook or curriculum alterations.
    Truthfully, I wouldn't know. You very well might be right regarding less-egregious textbook/curriculum changes. I just have a hard time believing the "Christian Taliban's" forced teaching of creationism is more prevalent than what's discussed in the OP.

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    So what do you think of the actual article?
    the micro-aggression movement has some basis in truth, but obviously it appears to be taken to exteme and silliness.

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    I doubt it is more widespread when you have entire state systems of K-12 public education affected by decisions like textbook or curriculum alterations.
    please. people underestimate the power of kids to think for themselves. And overestimate the impact of the content of what they learn in elementary school.

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    please. people underestimate the power of kids to think for themselves. And overestimate the impact of the content of what they learn in elementary school.
    Oh, so this stuff in college doesn't matter either since people can think for themselves.

    OK.

    /thread

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    I agree political correctness in the name of people's emotional well being has gone waaaaay off the ing deep end.

    But that's not a one person or party problem. It's people who are too pussy to do something about it, being pussies. Or people who aren't PC backtracking because they're pussies. If you don't want to be PC, don't be. Just don't expect to not be attacked or ridiculed in response.

    Long story short, stop being pussies.

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    Oh, so this stuff in college doesn't matter either since people can think for themselves.

    OK.

    /thread
    you mentioned the state systems of K-12. You're including college in this?

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    you mentioned the state systems of K-12. You're including college in this?
    I extended your "logic" to college. If you contend it can't be so extended, explain why not.

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    I extended your "logic" to college. If you contend it can't be so extended, explain why not.
    You want me to explain the difference between the mind of an elementary child and a young adult in college?

    wait...have you been hooking up with 13 year olds on the internet?

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    You want me to explain the difference between the mind of an elementary child and a young adult in college?

    wait...have you been hooking up with 13 year olds on the internet?

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    In the name of emotional well-being, college students are increasingly demanding protection from words and ideas they don’t like. Here’s why that’s disastrous for education—and mental health.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...n-mind/399356/
    But you agree with this because you are Pro-PC

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    Stop the hand-wringing over campus PC culture: Corporations and the far right are a much bigger threat to free expression

    Two new articles, from significantly different points of view, show just how strange a state we’re in these days. In The Atlantic, Caitlin Flanagan takes a look at the college comedy scene, and it’s not pretty.

    Catherine Rampell’s Washington Post piece argues that the right is the zealous at banning books as the left is at scolding comedians. She writes, regarding school libraries:

    In almost every category, Republicans were more likely than Democrats to endorse book bans. That includes “books with explicit language” (bye-bye, “The Catcher in the Rye”); “books which include witchcraft or sorcery” (to the slaughter, “Harry Potter”); “books which include vampires” (night night, “Twilight”); “books that discuss evolution” (into the bin, Darwin); and “books which question the existence of a divine being or beings” (quit your squawking, Stephen Hawking).
    And, she writes, “Literature wasn’t the only medium that Republican respondents said was ripe for purging, according to the Harris poll. Compared with Democrats, Republicans were also more likely to say that some video games, movies and television programs should be banned.”

    The important point Rampell doesn’t make is that while it’s not literal, classic censorship, the vast majority of speech (broadly defined) in this country is controlled by corporations. Whether we’re talking the centrist-apolitical CBS or the stridently reactionary Fox News, these gatekeepers and others like them are corporate owned. Same with radio. Ditto the big technology corporations that decide what rises and what falls online. Virtually every big company has a public-relations wing as well.

    For what it’s worth, I don’t dismiss the complaints of these comedians who’ve found the climate less open these days. Our cultural figures should be able to range widely in what they address in their work. But let’s not overlook the larger picture: The books our children read, the information we hear (and don’t hear) in corporate newscasts, the direct line from corporate offices to Congress – this is all more troubling than a bunch of college kids cramping Jerry Seinfeld’s style.

    http://www.salon.com/2015/08/11/stop...ee_expression/

    Corporate TV is CC, "Corporately Correct", no news, no investigations, that might hurt their revenue from corporate advertisers, and of course they all were cheerleaders for the Repug govt for the invading Afghanistan and Iraq.



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    But you agree with this because you are Pro-PC
    I am?

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    Liberals and the New McCarthyism

    Things have gotten bad enough that comedians Jerry Seinfeld, Chris Rock, and Larry the Cable Guy have all said they can’t or won’t play colleges any more.

    As fellow-comedian Bill Maher commented, “When Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld, and Larry the Cable Guy say you have a stick up your ass, you don’t have to wait for the X-rays to come back.

    That’s right,
    a black, a Jew and a redneck all walk onto a college campus and they all can’t wait to leave.”

    Things have gotten bad enough that this spring The Onion put out a satirical piece led,

    “College Encourages Lively Exchange of Idea: Students, Faculty, Invited to Freely Express Single Viewpoint.”

    The article concludes with fic ious college President Kevin Abrams stating, “‘Whether it’s a discussion of a national political issue or a concern here on campus, an open forum in which

    one argument is uniformly reinforced is crucial for maintaining the exceptional learning environment we have cultivated here.’

    Abrams told reporters that counseling resources were available for any student made uncomfortable by the viewpoint.”

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/...w-mccarthyism/


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    posters right and left seem to agree that PC is pernicious silliness. I think it is too.

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    You want me to explain the difference between the mind of an elementary child and a young adult in college?
    Young adults in college are even more capable of thinking for themselves. If you think they are less capable, you need to explain why.

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    Young adults in college are even more capable of thinking for themselves. If you think they are less capable, you need to explain why.
    I think young adults in college are more capable of thinking for themselves than elementary children.

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    posters right and left seem to agree that PC is pernicious silliness. I think it is too.
    I always thought that would be a good name for a boxer. Pernicious Jones.

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    I think young adults in college are more capable of thinking for themselves than elementary children.
    Great.

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