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    That looks more like a Happy 2nd Amendment cake.

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    I think I am going to go into an ice cream shop and demand they sell me a lawn mower this afternoon.
    Did you ended up doesing this?

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    That's exactly why these laws are so stupid.

    You can discriminate on religious grounds. It'd have to be done by simply telling the s "no." That scenario that avoids the intent of the law (ending discrimination) and the only way to deal with it, like you said, is to start examining each and every refusal for discriminatory intent.
    I never said there was anything wrong with it.

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    Stupid isn't the same thing as wrong you re ed female

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    Stupid isn't the same thing as wrong you re ed female
    Why is it stupid to have a law that explicitly prevents someone from voicing their intentions when discriminating.

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    Why is it stupid to have a law that explicitly prevents someone from voicing their intentions when discriminating.
    Because it's pointless. Who the cares if people aren't explicitly voicing the reasons why they aren't baking s cakes when they can keep their mouths shut and not bake s cakes.

    Is stopping bakers from saying "I hate s" really that important to you?

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    Because it's pointless. Who the cares if people aren't explicitly voicing the reasons why they aren't baking s cakes when they can keep their mouths shut and not bake s cakes.

    Is stopping bakers from saying "I hate s" really that important to you?
    Legally removing the soapbox that allows them to voice their intention to discriminate doesn't bother me. I'm not sure I'd label it important to me, but if a city or state wants to enact a law to do just that, I have no problem with it.

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    Crofl soapbox.

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    People are too thin skinned these days, everything goes to a lawsuit. If the anti- baker doesn't want to make the s a cake the s can go on yelp whine and complain and the market will decide if it will continue to keep anti- baker in business. The s can also go to a pro- bakery that would be happy to bake them a cake. Neither the anti- baker nor the s like eachother so why are they forced to do business together.

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    Crofl soapbox.
    Yeah. You need a dictionary?

    soap·box
    /'sōp,bäks/
    'soʊp,bɑks/



    n.

    a box or crate used as a makeshift stand by a public speaker: [as modifier
    ]
    a soapbox orator
    .

    a thing that provides an opportunity for someone to air theirviews publicly: fanzines are soapboxes for critical sports fans
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    New Oxford American Dictionary © 2010 Oxford University Press

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    Yeah. You need a dictionary?

    soap·box
    /'sōp,bäks/
    'soʊp,bɑks/



    n.

    a box or crate used as a makeshift stand by a public speaker: [as modifier
    ]
    a soapbox orator
    .

    a thing that provides an opportunity for someone to air theirviews publicly: fanzines are soapboxes for critical sports fans
    .



    New Oxford American Dictionary © 2010 Oxford University Press
    How does law prevent bakers from expressing anti-gay rhetoric -- which is what you mean by "intent to discriminate," isn't it?

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    How does law prevent bakers from expressing anti-gay rhetoric -- which is what you mean by "intent to discriminate," isn't it?
    I don't know what you're asking here. A law was put into place to prevent people from discriminating based on sexual orientation. I don't think this is stupid like you do. The law can easily be skirted if the bigot simply keeps his mouth shut and elects not to serve the couple. There is nothing that can be done about this, nor should there be.

    If if the baker want to tell everyone he hates gays, I have no issue with that either. That said, he should not be able openly discriminate based on sexual orientation.

    Is that clear to you?

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    Th'Pusher where does your username come from, tbh?..

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    People are too thin skinned these days, everything goes to a lawsuit. If the anti- baker doesn't want to make the s a cake the s can go on yelp whine and complain and the market will decide if it will continue to keep anti- baker in business. The s can also go to a pro- bakery that would be happy to bake them a cake. Neither the anti- baker nor the s like eachother so why are they forced to do business together.
    Not really. I mean, look at Dred Scott v. Sandford, one of the worst decisions by the SCOTUS, that was indirectly one of the triggers to the Civil War... discrimination isn't new and has been litigated for pretty much as long as this country has existed...

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    Th'Pusher where does your username come from, tbh?..
    I push pills. You into opiates?

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    Nono, you my nig, but are you seriously comparing a scotus decision denying citizenship to blacks to a Colorado state court decision requiring a Christian to bake a cake for s?

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    "If the anti- baker doesn't want to make the s a cake the s can go on yelp whine"

    they're fighting the next battle, aiming for Federal anti-discrimination law. the cake episode isn't a question of thin skin, but of being pissed at being denied lots of other stuff beside cake.



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    Nono, you my nig, but are you seriously comparing a scotus decision denying citizenship to blacks to a Colorado state court decision requiring a Christian to bake a cake for s?
    I'm just thinking ahead. I could be wrong but I think this is clearly heading towards the SCOTUS because that's exactly what the goal is. In general terms this is a matter of individual rights.

    Interestingly enough, Dred Scott v. Sandford opened the door to the creation of the 14th Amendment of the Cons ution, which is where Obergefell v. Hodges was decided (Due Process, Equal Protection), and apparently granted certain rights to the same-sex class.

    I don't know about a direct comparison, but historically there's definite connection.

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    I should add that Dred Scott didn't sue seeking to establish his citizenship rights. He sued to end his and his wife's slavery. The citizenship thing was all Taney, which thankfully came up with such a stupid decision, because it made the ruling largely non-binding.

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    but of being pissed at being denied lots of other stuff beside cake.
    Like what?

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    8/10.

    But seriously...other than a " cake", what's the problem? Hostess or Little Debbie should start cranking out got Bars or Little got Rolls and make some money off this.

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    Oh look, the same video!

    The Muslims should bake the cake too if that is the law where they operate.

    You can put that straw man away now, Darrin.

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    I should add that Dred Scott didn't sue seeking to establish his citizenship rights. He sued to end his and his wife's slavery. The citizenship thing was all Taney, which thankfully came up with such a stupid decision, because it made the ruling largely non-binding.
    No comeback, Nice post.


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