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  1. #151
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    using e-verify at the site of employment is what you meant by sealing the border?
    no

    Two different opinions in the same post. Until we have a system that identifies and registers the people that are here illegally we won't ever solve our illegal immigration problem. There has to be a carrot/stick with the people that hire illegal aliens.

    pick a date...say...September 1st. All illegals in the country have to register, do a background check, and get a work permit, and pay taxes. Employers that hire them after that date without a work permit get the fined out of them. New illegal immigrants after that date don't get work permits.

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    No illegals would register.

    Unless you can guarantee their rights and protection and that they wont be deported. I know lots of illegals. Them ngas would rather live in a cardboard box than go to la migra

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    IA Radio Host Jan Mickelson: Enslave Undo ented Immigrants Unless They Leave

    Iowa radio host and influential conservative kingmaker Jan Mickelson unveiled an immigration plan that would make undo ented immigrants who don't leave the country after an allotted time "property of the state," asking, "What's wrong with slavery?" when a caller criticized his plan.

    On the August 17 edition of his radio show, Mickelson announced that he had a plan to drive undo ented immigrants out of Iowa that involved making those who don't leave "property of the state" who are forced into "compelled labor," like building a wall on the US-Mexican border.

    JAN MICKELSON: Now here is what would work. And I was asked by an immigration open border's activist a couple of weeks ago, how I would get all the illegals here in the state of Iowa to leave. "Are you going to call the police every time you find an illegal, are you going to round them up and put them in detention centers?"

    I said, "No you don't have to do any of that stuff."


    "Well you going to invite them to leave the country and leave Iowa?"


    And I said, "Well, sort of."


    "Well how you going to do it, Mickelson? You think you're so smart. How would you get thousands of illegals to leave Iowa?"


    Well, I said, "Well if I wanted to do that I would just put up some signs."


    "Well what would the signs say?"


    I said, "Well I'd would put them on the end of the highway, on western part of the interstate system, and I'd put them on the eastern side of the state, right there on the interstate system, and in the north on the Minnesota border, and on the south Kansas and Missouri border and I would just say this: 'As of this date' -- whenever we decide to do this -- 'as of this date, 30--' this is a totally arbitrary number, '30 to 60 days from now anyone who is in the state of Iowa that who is not here legally and who cannot demonstrate their legal status to the satisfaction of the local and state authorities here in the State of Iowa, become property of the State of Iowa.' So if you are here without our permission, and we have given you two months to leave, and you're still here, and we find that you're still here after we we've given you the deadline to leave, then you become property of the State of Iowa. And we have a job for you. And we start using compelled labor, the people who are here illegally would therefore be owned by the state and become an asset of the state rather than a liability and we start inventing jobs for them to do.


    "Well how would you apply that logic to what Donald Trump is trying to do? Trying to get Mexico to pay for the border and for the wall?"


    "Same way. We say, 'Hey, we are not going to make Mexico pay for the wall, we're going to invite the illegal Mexicans and illegal aliens to build it. If you have come across the border illegally, again give them another 60-day guideline, you need to go home and leave this jurisdiction, and if you don't you become property of the United States, and guess what? You will be building a wall. We will compel your labor.

    You would belong to these United States. You show up without an invitation, you get to be an asset. You get to be a construction worker. Cool!'

    When a caller confronted Mickelson and said his plan amounted to "slavery," Mickelson replied, "What's wrong with slavery?" Mickelson told the caller his plan was "moral," "legal," and "politically doable" and should be modeled after Maricopa County (Arizona) Sheriff Joe Arpaio's "tent village"

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    voluntary registration is what you meant by sealing the border?

    you're all over the place, CC

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    e-verify has nothing to do with credit scores.
    I'm saying banks, etc have 100Ks of errors in credit scores, always in the public's disfavor. Is e-verify verifiably accurate, challengeable?

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    Oh and I could care less. Just chose not to
    It must be nice to find yourself so entertaining.

    And full of BS...

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    voluntary registration is what you meant by sealing the border?

    you're all over the place, CC
    Repugs would rather spend $10Bs building, maintaining, manning their fantasy border wall than legalize 11M immigrants get collect $100Bs in taxes, SS, and productivity.

    Repug nativists, xenophobes, Euro-white supremacists don't have any real, workable solution to their dreamed-of border security.

    But they've done pretty well with their austerity governance to re the recovery from their Banksters Great Depression, which actually caused a net outflow of immigrants.

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    Repugs would rather spend $10Bs building, maintaining, manning their fantasy border wall than legalize 11M immigrants get collect $100Bs in taxes, SS, and productivity.

    Repug nativists, xenophobes, Euro-white supremacists don't have any real, workable solution to their dreamed-of border security.

    But they've done pretty well with their austerity governance to re the recovery from their Banksters Great Depression, which actually caused a net outflow of immigrants.
    It's not about legalizing the 11 million that are here. It's about stopping the next 11 million from illegally entering the country.

    Also, your statistics are 3 years out of date as usual. We are currently having a net inflow of illegals.

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    It's about stopping the next 11 million from illegally entering the country.
    the Repugs will never do anything, they just campaign on it, rouse you Euro-white rabble types to vote Repug.

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    the Repugs will never do anything, they just campaign on it, rouse you Euro-white rabble types to vote Repug.
    Well then what's the problem?

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    Well then what's the problem?
    Ask the Repugs, they're the ones campaigning on Euro-white supremacy.

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    Ask the Repugs, they're the ones campaigning on Euro-white supremacy.
    More rabid unfounded Boutons claims.

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    What are the facts regarding undo ented workers paying taxes? How much are we getting in tax revenue? Are they really filing tax returns?

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    What are the facts regarding undo ented workers paying taxes? How much are we getting in tax revenue? Are they really filing tax returns?
    Obviously they pay state and local sales tax. Without a SS# or work permit they obviously can't register and pay into the federal income tax system.

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    Obviously they pay state and local sales tax. Without a SS# or work permit they obviously can't register and pay into the federal income tax system.
    I agree with the first sentence. However, are employers really not withholding any taxes?

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    I agree with the first sentence. However, are employers really not withholding any taxes?
    Many of them work in the underground economy and work for cash. Painters, home repair, Lawn service, tree trimmers, etc. There is a whole pack of mostly illegal tree trimmers that follow the brush pickup service around here in San Antonio. There will be an english speaking hispanic local fronting and he will hire the illegals to do the work for cheap cash.
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    A lot of us would volunteer to help remove them for free

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    Many of them work in the underground economy and work for cash. Painters, home repair, Lawn service, tree trimmers, etc. There is a whole pack of mostly illegal tree trimmers that follow the brush pickup service around here in San Antonio. There will be an english speaking hispanic local fronting and he will hire the illegals to do the work for cheap cash.
    Sounds logical... but is there any actual comprehensive research out there?

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