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    The NY Slimes, another failing, money-losing liberal rag that can't hide their anti-Trump bias.
    show us the poll that shows Repugs want Trump as candidate, would vote him as President.'

    You stupid ers are as duped by Trump's bull as you were by pitbull 's looks and word salads.

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    Prior to the event, the Trump campaign gave out numbers ranging from 30,000 attendees all the way up to 40,000. Here are some of the reports in that vein:
    YAHOO NEWS: “More than 30000 people are expected to turn out for Donald Trump's Mobile, Alabama” rally.

    WASHINGTON EXAMINER
    : “Trump expecting over 30,000 people at Alabama event”


    CNN
    : “As of Thursday morning, 35,000 tickets to the event have been distributed, according to the Trump Campaign.”


    NEW YORK POST
    : “It’s going to end up at 30- to 40,000 people in Alabama,” the Post wrote, quoting Trump himself.

    These are just a few of the headlines the Trump event was previewed with. Notice that they all had one thing in common – all of these reporters decided to base the crowd numbers on Trump’s claims. None of them decided to do any groundwork to figure out if the claims had any validity – which would involve, for example, surveying the community itself.


    As it turned out, the rally ended up featuring around 20,000 people – around half the capacity of the 40,000-person stadium.

    But this wasn’t the first time Trump exaggerated his own numbers.

    After his first rally in Phoenix, Arizona, Trump claimed “20,000” people attended his event there. The thing is, local media did their own tally, and figured closer to four to five thousand people showed up.


    This is now a trend. Trump makes a wild claim about the number of people who will be attending or have attended one of his rallies, and the media republishes his claims without actually checking the veracity of the source.

    Later, local media does its own count and finds that Trump exaggerated his numbers, in the case of Phoenix, by four to five times; in Mobile, by possibly 100 percent.

    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...ia-letting-him



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    The city of Mobile confirmed that 30,000 people showed up. The media has consistently underreported the attendance, shown empty seats that were far away from the stage and ignored the fact that there was a large crowd standing on the field in order to keep convincing themselves that Trump isn't popular.

    As for the Phoenix rally, Politico breathlessly reported that Bernie Sanders drew 11,000 to that same "2,000-seat room."

    lol Alternet

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    Ppl just dont realize how ty shillary is.

    I probably vote for trump before that

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    The city of Mobile confirmed that 30,000 people showed up. The media has consistently underreported the attendance, shown empty seats that were far away from the stage and ignored the fact that there was a large crowd standing on the field in order to keep convincing themselves that Trump isn't popular.

    As for the Phoenix rally, Politico breathlessly reported that Bernie Sanders drew 11,000 to that same "2,000-seat room."

    lol Alternet
    Bernie rented the main Phoenix convention center's Main exbiition hall, capacity 12K, Trump rented its North Ball room, capacity 4200.

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    30,000 people at Trump's rally last night: media focuses on the empty seats because him for not totally filling up a 40,000 seat stadium, right?

    10,000 people at Bernie's rallies: media acts like 10 million people showed up to hear God (aka Bernie Sanders) give them the Word of the Lord.

    I'll bet you any amount of money trump doesn't get the republican nomination. Put your money where your mouth is you bag fake libertarian.

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    Trump On How He’ll Deport All 11 Million Undo ented Immigrants: ‘Don’t Worry About It’


    STEPHANOPOULOS: So if there’s no idea, how are you going to round them all up?
    Where are you going to get the money, where are you going to get the forces?
    Exactly how are you going to do it?
    What are the specifics here?

    TRUMP: George, it’s called management. And the first thing we have to do is secure the border. But it’s called management. And we’ll get people back in, the really good ones, we’re going to expedite it so they get back in, so they can at least come in legally.

    But we have to do it…

    STEPHANOPOULOS: You keep declaring how you’re going to do it…


    TRUMP: It’s management.


    STEPHANOPOULOS: — but you don’t say…


    TRUMP: We don’t…


    STEPHANOPOULOS: — how.


    TRUMP: Excuse me, George?


    STEPHANOPOULOS: You declare how you’re going to to it, but you don’t say how.


    TRUMP: George, I’m telling you, it’s called management. You can do this and we can expedite the good ones to come back in. And everybody wants that. But they have to come in legally.


    An analysis by the Center For American Progress estimates deporting 11.3 million people would cost $10,070 per person, or $114 billion. That only covers the “direct cost of physically deporting unauthorized immigrants.”

    The conservative American Action Forum, considering the total cost to the economy, estimates mass deportation of all undo ented immigrants would
    cost between $420 billion and $620 billion and take 20 years.

    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...orry-about-it/

    so "deport all 11M+ illegals" and "build a hermetic, seal-the-border wall" are just "don't worry about it"

    (because we are only campaigning on these issues, we'll never do anything about them)


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    Yup I called that Trump is messing up on immigration. Thankfully so are the rest of the candidates. So no issue

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    Real Estate Moguls of the World Unite!


    Trump bags first mega campaign contribution from disgraced ex-con real estate mogul behind one of the New Jersey/New York's most notorious recent scandals.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/real-estate-moguls-of-the-world-unite?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_ca mpaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

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    Independent Trump Bags First Mega Donation from Disgraced Ex-Con Real Estate Mogul

    One of the larger donations that the super PAC has received so far has come from Charles and Seryl Kushner, the in-laws to Trump’s daughter Ivanka and the parents of her husband, New York Observer owner Jared Kushner. The Kushners gave $100,000 to the Make America Great Again super PAC in July.On Sunday, they took that support one step further by hosting Trump for a meet-and-greet on the candidate’s behalf at their seaside home on the New Jersey shore.

    While we probably can’t blame Donald Trump for attending a political event hosted by his daughter’s parents-in-law or accepting an unsolicited donation from the same, the name Charles Kushner might ring a bell. And not for a good reason.


    More than a decade ago, Kushner, who like Trump is a real estate developer, was one of the biggest behind-the-scenes players in New Jersey’s real estate-obsessed political establishment. In the early 2000s, through his relatives and companies, Charles Kushner could be personally linked to almost 5% of the donations collected by then-N.J. Gov. James McGreevey’s 1997 and 2001 gubernatorial campaigns. He was also the largest single donor to Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Robert Torricelli.


    In return, McGreevey had rewarded Kushner with a nomination to chair the board of directors of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the powerful bi-state transportation and real estate infrastructure agency now at the center of the Bridgegate scandal. Kushner was on track to become the agency’s chairman (a job later held by David Samson) when his candidacy was derailed by intra-family lawsuits alleging that Charles had made many of those Kushner-tied donations by improperly using business funds without the permission of his partners – who just happened to be his relatives, including his brother Murray. Murray filed suit against Charles in state court over the matter, but the suit was under seal and off-limits to the New Jersey lawmakers who vetted and eventually backed Charles’s Port Authority appointment.

    But before it could be finalized, the Kushners’ top accountant filed a whistleblower suit in federal court alleging that Charles had fired him after learning that he had provided evidence of the campaign donations to Murray. Moreover, the suit’s allegations went well beyond mere donations; the accountant charged that Charles had used his family’s company money to do things like buy out an insurance firm briefly owned by Gov. McGreevey’s chief of staff, the sale of which earned that official more than $350,000.


    Charles’s Port Authority nomination was dead by early 2003 and in June 2004, Kushner agreed to pay a $508,900 fine to the Federal Election Commission (one of the largest in its history) to settle claims about those political donations. At the time, the FEC claimed that it had stumbled on Kushner’s money by way of an audit of former N.J. Sen Bill Bradley’s 2000 presidential campaign financials.


    But that explanation didn’t hold up for long.


    Just weeks later in July 2004, Charles Kushner was indicted by then-U.S. Attorney Chris Christie on charges of conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and interstate promotion of pros ution (!) for trying to derail a federal investigation Christie’s office had opened into Kushner’s political operations during the prior year.

    It turned out that Charles was concerned about his sister’s cooperation with Christie’s grand jury and decided to blackmail her into silence by hiring a pros ute to seduce her husband. In a Bridgewater, N.J. motel room of the Red Bull Inn (not kidding) equipped with a hidden video camera Charles secretly recorded his brother-in-law in flagrante. Charles then sent the tape to his sister, threatening to make it public unless she stopped cooperating with the feds.


    Now I know some of you are saying, “why didn’t I think of that?” But let me stop you right now – this plan did not work out for Charles.


    The sister talked. Her husband talked. The pros ute talked. Game over.


    Charles pled guilty to the charges in August 2004, a week after Gov. McGreevey resigned and publicly came out as gay by way of admitting to a sexual affair with a member of his staff: an Israeli citizen whose American work visa had been sponsored by none other than Charles Kushner.

    (People I knew in New Jersey politics during that time – including some in the governor’s office – were convinced Christie was sitting on their phones.)


    Although he was sentenced to two years in federal prison, Charles Kushner won admission to an addiction treatment program that shortened his sentence. Prosecutors launched an investigation into whether Kushner was fibbing about being an addict in order to win a chance at being transferred from a federal prison in Alabama to a halfway house in Newark, N.J.

    Ultimately, however, they backed his transfer and a sentence reduction upon his completion of a 500-hour-long rehabilitation program. Kushner was released from federal custody in August 2006, just fourteen months into his sentence.


    Looking back, it’s hard to overstate just how central Charles Kushner was to the unraveling of Jim McGreevey’s governorship and to New Jersey Democrats’ loss of the state’s governor’s mansion to a U.S. Attorney eager to be seen as the top cop going after political corruption in the state.


    It’s now ironic, of course, that Charles Kushner is back in the game supporting the GOP candidate who is nudging Christie out of the race. But family or not, it remains to be seen if even the likes of Donald Trump can afford to carry the baggage that comes with this guy.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/tr...sgraced-ex-con






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    Trump already said he is going to take the money of the special interest groups and "screw them". He said it publicly.

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    The city of Mobile confirmed that 30,000 people showed up. The media has consistently underreported the attendance, shown empty seats that were far away from the stage and ignored the fact that there was a large crowd standing on the field in order to keep convincing themselves that Trump isn't popular.

    As for the Phoenix rally, Politico breathlessly reported that Bernie Sanders drew 11,000 to that same "2,000-seat room."

    lol Alternet
    Hey, what does Trump say is the unemployment rate in the US?

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    Hey, what does Trump say is the unemployment rate in the US?
    why?

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    Why would anyone NOT want to know what the leading Republican candidate for the presidency of the United States thinks about unemployment in the US?

    Please explain that to me.

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    Why would anyone NOT want to know what the leading Republican candidate for the presidency of the United States thinks about unemployment in the US?

    Please explain that to me.
    Didn't I hear him say the real unemployment was 20% what he says doesn't matter, it's all a bull distraction

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    Didn't I hear him say the real unemployment was 20%
    If only.

    It may be awhile before his disciples bite on this one.

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    Why would anyone NOT want to know what the leading Republican candidate for the presidency of the United States thinks about unemployment in the US?

    Please explain that to me.
    I care what he thinks about unemployment overall (like his policy to address it and such). However, I don't really care what he calculates the specific rate to be. In interviews, I have heard him say it's extremely high, but of course he like every Republican running is going to say that.

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    I care what he thinks about unemployment overall (like his policy to address it and such). However, I don't really care what he calculates the specific rate to be. In interviews, I have heard him say it's extremely high, but of course he like every Republican running is going to say that.
    How high?

    I think people might be interested.

    I can't see how they wouldn't be. Seems pretty important.

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    How high?

    I think people might be interested.

    I can't see how they wouldn't be. Seems pretty important.
    Extremely high

    But again, I don't think what he calculates the exact rate to be is all that interesting or important.

    He is a candidate running for the GOP nomination, they are all going to say it's astronomically high.

    (it's a hodgepodge calculation anyway, so I don't put much stock in the exact number)

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    Extremely high

    But again, I don't think what he calculates the exact rate to be is all that interesting or important.

    He is a candidate running for the GOP nomination, they are all going to say it's astronomically high.

    (it's a hodgepodge calculation anyway, so I don't put much stock in the exact number)
    What exact number did Trump use?

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    What exact number did Trump use?
    40%

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    You're still too low

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    You're still too low
    Really? I've not see him say a number higher but he always speaks in hyperbole so I don't take it too seriously.

    I think he gave his most serious estimate at his campaign launch event when he said it could be anywhere from 18 to 20 percent when you factor in the number of people who have exited the work force entirely because of seemingly hopeless job prospects for them.

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    Ok, so I read the Time magazine article where he said the real unemployment rate is 21%... and then in the same breath, he said actual real unemployment rate was 42%.

    Not sure where that came from but that's ok.

    So again, this is all just for show. He knows exactly what he's doing.

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    Ok, so I read the Time magazine article where he said the real unemployment rate is 21%... and then in the same breath, he said actual real unemployment rate was 42%.

    Not sure where that came from but that's ok.

    So again, this is all just for show. He knows exactly what he's doing.
    What does he know he's doing by saying it's 21% then immediately saying it's 42%?

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    What does he know he's doing by saying it's 21% then immediately saying it's 42%?
    Getting attention... bringing attention to the fact that government's sub-6% number is a scam.

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