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What if the mother's life is at risk?
Are you ok with the abortion or should the government force the mother to go through with it?
In 1987, the Alan Guttmacher Ins ute collected questionnaires from 1,900 women in the United States who came to clinics to have abortions. Of the 1,900 questioned, 420 had been pregnant for 16 or more weeks. These 420 women were asked to choose among a list of reasons they had not obtained the abortions earlier in their pregnancies. The results were as follows:[2]
71% Woman didn't recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation
48% Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion
33% Woman were afraid to tell her partner or parents
24% Woman took time to decide to have an abortion
8% Woman waited for her relationship to change
8% Someone pressured woman not to have abortion
6% Something changed after woman became pregnant
6% Woman didn't know timing is important
5% Woman didn't know she could get an abortion
2% A fetal problem was diagnosed late in pregnancy
11% Other
A new study in 2013 shows that most women seeking late term abortion "fit at least one of five profiles: They were raising children alone, were depressed or using illicit substances, were in conflict with a male partner or experiencing domestic violence, had trouble deciding and then had access problems, or were young and nulliparous."
What if the mother's life is at risk?
Are you ok with the abortion or should the government force the mother to go through with it?
That is actually extremely rare.
Something tells me you've never told an OB/GYN this to his/her face. Try it.
but it happens
The fact that the court has to gerrymander the definition of the word viable to better suit their agenda is telling enough. No child can subsist outside of the womb for very long without suc bing to the elements.
No blanket? Hypothermia --> death
No food? --> death
No water? --> death
Exposure to sunlight? --> heatstroke --> death
If your only recourse is to suggest that the need ventilators suggests that babies aren't viable, then I know many babies who by your definition were never viable at all... except some of them are already 30 years of age.
lol you cant even read. babies in need of respirators ARE still considered viable
There is absolutely no one advocating that anyone should be legally allowed to leave a baby alone in the elements.
I actually didn't intend for this to degenerate into the "viability" issue. It's just about being clear about terminology. Even if the pre-21 week abortion victim is not "viable" lets still call it what it is...killing a future baby. Hiding behind the term fetus or zygote to justify and attempt to dehumanize it is just intellectually dishonest.
If they're into the hobby of killing defenseless babies, why not? Just because they're doctors doesn't mean they are above reproof.
Truth is, I haven't had any children nor have I had the opportunity to talk to an abortion performing doctor. It's not like it's a common occurrence to run into them at Academy, the airport, some restaurant, etc... and for them to come out and say, "I perform abortions for a living". Not all OB/GYN perform abortions. You make it sound like it's the lifeblood of the field - for PP centers perhaps - but not at large.
Just showing you how silly it is for anyone then to evaluate their viability when technically none of them are.
Perhaps, but your reasoning is still stupid.
Changing definitions to avoid calling murder for what it really is.
Stab the neck, suck out brains, collapse the skull, end a life. IT'S FAIRLY OBVIOUS and self-evident. Except for the pro-choice crowd who have to redefine things just to justify the practice.
ok you're avoiding my other question so how about this one:
If a 10 year old girl gets raped and pregnant, are you ok with her getting an abortion?
Fetus and zygote are completely accurate scientific terms. How is it intellectually dishonest? You're suggesting we should always appeal to emotion?
It's not silly. Prior to viability, the mother is the only thing keeping the fetus alive. The mother has no option to pass the fetus along to someone else who can care for it. It is completely on her.
After viability, there are a mul ude of options for passing the baby along to someone who can care for it.
Pretty much any OB/GYN you choose to talk to has some understanding of abortion and probably supports it. At the very least, they will fall under your "just as deranged for defending the practice - and have as much blood on your hands as the executioner doctors that perform these deeds" category.
So ask them what they think.
Blake, I'm not here to cater to your questions. You've never once admitted you were wrong about anything. Why should I entertain a discussion with you at all? (don't answer the hypothetical as I don't really care to suit your whims). Besides, my lunch break is over.
It's a real question based on a real life scenario, coward.
I'm not here to change your mind tbh. I'm asking because it never ceases to amaze me how pro lifers buckle at that question. It's honestly fascinating and telling to watch.
My sister is an OB/GYN in New Jersey. She holds a more staunch pro-life position than I do. She's never once in her 12 years of practice performed an abortion.
I have a clear position for that scenario, but don't have time to deal with your ad hominems, your strawmen and your non-sequitors. Unfortunately, you don't get to dictate when I answer what and to whom.
She's rare. Ask another one.
Bye peeps. Out.
I'll have her ask her colleagues. But I don't understand how you could make the assumption that the field of OB/GYN who by and large was handed the keys "to bringing life into the world" --> somehow became the field of death dealers. There are MANY more things that they are responsible for than the practice of abortions.
Alright bye.
I'm aware of that. They are in the field to care for women's health. You seem to think those who do practice (or support) abortions are demented baby killers. I would be interested to hear you tell this to one of those doctors.
And if your sister and her colleagues are from one of those religious clinics operating on the sole basis of discouraging women from having abortions, that's not who I'm talking about.
Nobody is saying you have to answer. Unfortunately, you telling me twice that you don't have time to say a simple "yes" or "no" makes you look like a quivering coward.
You're not the first, definitely not the last religious pro-lifer to run away from that very real scenario.
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