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    Not that I think West is a bad addition to the team at all, but bringing up concerns with the bench's balance is very valid. The Spurs have depended on their second unit extending leads. If there are major defensive and rebounding problems, it's a big deal, especially since the team has no way of addressing them. There are plenty of ways this next season's roster can implode or at least underachieve, and discussing those isn't stupid or ungrateful. SA is the favorite to win it all, but if they disappoint, it's pretty easy to see how that's going to happen.
    Bold statement, especially since the national media consensus seems to favor Cleveland and Golden State.

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    Would inserting Boban into the 2nd unit remedy this problem?

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    Also, another point that this article raises: since West is a poor fit next to Diaw, perhaps the front office would've been better off trading Diaw instead of Splitter. A Splitter / West 2nd unit is much more balanced than a Diaw / West one.

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    Is this a ing joke? What player would be better at the minimum lmao
    Didn't even bother reading such a dumb topic

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    Also, another point that this article raises: since West is a poor fit next to Diaw, perhaps the front office would've been better off trading Diaw instead of Splitter. A Splitter / West 2nd unit is much more balanced than a Diaw / West one.
    Whenever Splitter is on the court......sure.

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    Bold statement, especially since the national media consensus seems to favor Cleveland and Golden State.
    Cleveland is the favorite simply because they have three byes before the finals. We're pretty much even up with GSW if not better. The Spurs match up better with them than any other team out there.

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    Rule 1: don't read PTR

    Having Anderson at backup SF means we'll have essentially a 3 big lineup.

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    Listen everyone, Kyle Anderson is going to be the backup SF. He can rebound at NBA level, got 21% of defensive rebounds last season. Has length, and good timing. If WEst and Diaw box out the big, Kyle will get that rebound and push the ball ahead like we have seen him do. I'm kind of kidding, but actually if I am serious, it is a big reason why I see him as the backup SF over Simmons. Kyle really is a forward and his size, length and rebounding will supplement Diaw and West nicely. He could box out on switches as well.

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    Having Anderson at backup SF means we'll have essentially a 3 big lineup.
    Agree with you here.

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    Will bump after the 3-peat

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    This is why West starts next to Aldridge.

    Okay, not really. But West is the third big, Diaw is fourth, because he will be playing more of a swing position. West isn't a Todman-level rebounder and, yes, he doesn't block shots, but otherwise is a good defender. We didn't have rim defenders beyond Duncan last year, anyway. The team will be looking for more mid-range possibilities, not just for Aldridge, and the secret here is West is an even better shooter from that range than Aldridge. Plus we're forgetting West is a tremendous passer.

    In short... We didn't have a shot-blocker he's replacing, or even LMA is replacing. Rebounding may be something of a concern but team boarding will work well. West is no slouch in positional defense - the Pacers were a terrific defensive team - and on offense he will be terrific. So...?

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    Duncan first big to go out, diaw subs at C
    Aldridge and diaw leave and Duncan west enter

    sometimes Aldridge will have to play "center" with West or diaw

    depends if Bogan ever gets normal rotation minutes which I doubt.. We won't see much of Aldridge and Duncan together.

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    The article is ignorant, dishonest, wrong, and dipwad stupid.

    It sez:
    "West ... has averaged more than a 20 percent defensive rebound percentage only once since breaking out on his third season. For comparison, ... Baynes grabbed almost 21 percent.''

    In fact, an honest comparison of career DRB% is:

    Baynes, 19.9 (playing center)
    West, 19.1 (and 19.7 last season, playing a forward position, either power or small)

    West did as well rebounding from a forward position as Baynes did from the center position.

    I'd post more in response to that chicken dump excuse for an article but it isn't worth the trouble.

    Jesus Gomez is full of kobe. You know what kobe is, it's what the neighbor's dog leaves on your lawn.

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    I guess Errors would be better, right Yeesoos Gomer?

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    But West is the third big, Diaw is fourth

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    Not that I think West is a bad addition to the team at all, but bringing up concerns with the bench's balance is very valid. The Spurs have depended on their second unit extending leads. If there are major defensive and rebounding problems, it's a big deal, especially since the team has no way of addressing them. There are plenty of ways this next season's roster can implode or at least underachieve, and discussing those isn't stupid or ungrateful. SA is the favorite to win it all, but if they disappoint, it's pretty easy to see how that's going to happen.

    I think you're wrong if you're just looking at the 2nd unit as a group that only plays with one another. Some critics and fans like yourself make it seem like Pop subs players out in groups -- that is never the case. Staggered minutes in inevitable and I believe the bench players blend really well w/ the starters in terms of fit -- and that is what we should be looking at IMO. I.E: You'll see a lot of TD/Diaw or West/ Kawhi or Green/ Manu/ Mills line ups to start the 2nd quarter in compe ive games.

    Some starters will play w/ bench & some bench will play w/ starters from the 6-5 minute mark of the 1st til halftime -- then from 6-5 minute mark of 3rd quarter til 6 minute mark in 4th.

    The bench won't play exclusively with one another and that's why that article is silly & irrelevant to a degree. IMO

    West will play more w/ Duncan or Aldridge, same w/ Diaw.
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    I think a Diaw/West pairing would be just fine. West is a solid post player and has that mid range game, and Boris can play pretty much anywhere. The spacing will be there. Who knows, maybe we'll help him add a corner 3 to his game this season

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    It could be possible. Diaw typically starts so slowly at the beginning of the season, on the other hand, West is hungry and ready to show what he can do on this team.

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    Diaw typically starts so slowly at the beginning of the season
    It's called "coasting".....and Diaw is the best at it.

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    Doesn't matter LMA can play 40 minutes if needed in the playoffs.

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    2 problems with this argument. First of all, West is very strong and is a good defender who has actually improved on defense in the last 3-4 years. Second, how many quality big men with a strong post game do you seen in the 2nd unit of NBA teams?

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    It's called "coasting".....and Diaw is the best at it.
    If he takes it easy again, West could get Diaw's spot as 3rd big man on the team.

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    Some good points in the article but Mr. Gomez only gave one sentence to one of David West's key benefits to an offense - the "pick and pop." It's not just a weapon for when the Spurs' offense is struggling. The two-man game is huge for exploitation of match-ups and there are few pivots who have been more deadly from mid-range off a pick and pop than West. No one cared about Splitter on ball screens. West is a different story...as is Aldridge. His dead-eye midrange weakens lane congestion for the dribble-drive and punishes switches.

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    Some good points in the article but Mr. Gomez only gave one sentence to one of David West's key benefits to an offense - the "pick and pop." It's not just a weapon for when the Spurs' offense is struggling. The two-man game is huge for exploitation of match-ups and there are few pivots who have been more deadly from mid-range off a pick and pop than West. No one cared about Splitter on ball screens. West is a different story...as is Aldridge. His dead-eye midrange weakens lane congestion for the dribble-drive and punishes switches.
    He's also a very good and willing passer for his position.

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