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    According Parker fans Parker's still a top 5 PG in the league, Kawhi is a role player...

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...71#post8179071

    I don't give a about what Parker's fans think, but you can't say they're better than other fans.
    No one gives a what you think clown.

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    According Parker fans Parker's still a top 5 PG in the league, Kawhi is a role player...

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...71#post8179071

    I don't give a about what Parker's fans think, but you can't say they're better than other fans.
    Maybe we would give a if you used the screen name you had before this one.

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    No one gives a what you think clown.
    Says the guy who posted in 2015 Finals "Harrison Barnes is still better than Kawhi".
    Keep trying Kawhi hater...

    Maybe we would give a if you used the screen name you had before this one.
    Keep trying ChumpDumb...

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    Still a terrible list though.

    Parker over the likes of Hill, Oladipo, Nikola?

    yep real hilarious..

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    LDN at #50. Looks like Duncan, LMAlpha, and Kawhi should be listed top 30, as they have only published 31-100 so far.

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    their description of parker...

    "Clever though Parker may be, players of his type—driving point guards reliant on their quickness—don’t tend to age gracefully. That reality makes his decline in back-to-back seasons as explicable as it is worrisome. We’ve seen Parker neutralized by age and nagging injury to the point of postseason irrelevance. While it’s very much possible a sore Achilles was largely to blame for Parker’s latest sputter, the broader trends in his performance are nevertheless discouraging. Were Parker on another team that didn’t so expertly disguise his limitations, his current reputation could be quite different."
    That's pretty accurate

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    their description of parker...

    "Clever though Parker may be, players of his type—driving point guards reliant on their quickness—don’t tend to age gracefully. That reality makes his decline in back-to-back seasons as explicable as it is worrisome. We’ve seen Parker neutralized by age and nagging injury to the point of postseason irrelevance. While it’s very much possible a sore Achilles was largely to blame for Parker’s latest sputter, the broader trends in his performance are nevertheless discouraging. Were Parker on another team that didn’t so expertly disguise his limitations, his current reputation could be quite different."
    I honestly attribute his injuries to those shoes he wears...

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    His shoes don't make him overweight.

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    His shoes don't make him overweight.
    I have 25 inch cankles and those are the most comfortable shoes I own...

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    their description of parker...

    "Clever though Parker may be, players of his type—driving point guards reliant on their quickness—don’t tend to age gracefully. That reality makes his decline in back-to-back seasons as explicable as it is worrisome. We’ve seen Parker neutralized by age and nagging injury to the point of postseason irrelevance. While it’s very much possible a sore Achilles was largely to blame for Parker’s latest sputter, the broader trends in his performance are nevertheless discouraging. Were Parker on another team that didn’t so expertly disguise his limitations, his current reputation could be quite different."
    that last sentence is painfully accurate tbh, as much as I love Parker it's worth pointing out that were he on literally any other team, people would call him out the way rondo was exposed this season. I'm happy to hear Tony's in great shape at least this season, hopefully he'll be more durable and quicker than last season. Although 2011-2013 Tony is clearly gone unfortunately.

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    And Parker still thinks he's a great player.

    I hope that got breaks his leg.

    no room for ty players who think they are better than they really are.

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    Just saw Danny is #50.

    http://www.si.com/nba/top-100-nba-pl...cetype=default

    DANNY GREEN

    Spurs | Guard | Last year: 96
    Spurs guard Danny Green is the archetype of the “3-and-D” model, as he combines elite three-point shooting and elite all-around defense in a team framework that only requires him to be a complementary piece. “Elite” isn’t being tossed around here lightly. Among players with at least five three-point attempts per game, Green ranked fourth in effective field goal percentage, trailing only Kyle Korver, Stephen Curry and J.J. Re . Among all two guards, Green ranked fourth in Real Plus-Minus, trailing only James Harden, Khris Middleton and Korver, and his +9.9 net rating led all Spurs players with at least 65 games played.
    There’s a misconception that 3-and-D players just sort of hang out and wait for others to make things happen. That’s certainly not the case at all with Green, 28, whose constant activity off the ball creates open looks for himself and others and whose sound, high-effort defense makes him an effective marker on point guards and wings alike. Although Green isn’t an overwhelming physical specimen by any definition, it does sometimes feel like he’s everywhere at once, and he was the only perimeter player to average a block and a steal last season.
    Green’s game does have major holes: he isn’t a playmaker, he is fairly hopeless attacking off the dribble, he doesn’t get to the line or finish all that well in traffic, and he is prone to streakiness, as evidenced by his disappointing showing in the 2015 playoffs. Then again, streakiness can be a two-way street, as he shot brilliantly throughout San Antonio’s back-to-back trips to the Finals in 2013 and 2014.
    Deciding that he wanted to continue competing for les year after year for a team that molded him into the key contributor he is today, Green re-signed with the Spurs on a four-year, $45 million contract this summer rather than seeking out a richer offer elsewhere. Considering how handsomely Middleton, DeMarre Carroll and Wesley Matthews were rewarded in free agency, there’s little doubt Green left at least $15 million in total compensation on the table. Of course, his significant sacrifice was quickly buried under new headlines once teammates Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and David West all took sweetheart deals. Taking a backseat to bigger names is par for the course for the team-first Green, who brushed off talk that he is underpaid by saying that he “took what I was worth.” Twenty-nine GMs just muttered, “Damn Spurs.” – B.G.

    2014-15: 11.7 PPG, 4.2 RPG, 1.2 SPG, 43.6 FG%, 41.8 3P%
    Advanced: 16.5 PER, Win Shares: 7.8, +5.41 RPM

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    This means, barring something weird, that every Spurs starter is #53 or higher.

    I'd be excited if the list wasn't so arbitrary.

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    Keep trying ChumpDumb...
    I don't think you'll use the screen name you had before. Maybe you're ashamed of it now.

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    They put up the 30-11 today. Kawhi is in the top ten, I think LMA is one spot behind Duncan at 12 and 11 respectively. I can't tell because the mobile version of the site doesn't put the numbers next to the players.

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    that last sentence is painfully accurate tbh, as much as I love Parker it's worth pointing out that were he on literally any other team, people would call him out the way rondo was exposed this season. I'm happy to hear Tony's in great shape at least this season, hopefully he'll be more durable and quicker than last season. Although 2011-2013 Tony is clearly gone unfortunately.
    I'm not sure I agree actually. On a different team, the coach probably sits Parker during the time he was hobbled by injury and age-related inability to heal quickly. So when he would play, you would likely see the high-level performance he turned in for the first two months of last season. And he could put up more stats in a variety of systems.

    TP9 has not forgotten how to play basketball as a top player. But his body stopped cooperating. The hate-squad here is insane and disrespectful (as they always have been), as if TP9 is somehow purposefully getting older and less able to heal. Rob Diaz at least acknowledged somewhere that he blames Pop more than Parker. That is exactly the point. Pop decides to play Parker when he is hobbled and slow, not Parker.

    Nevertheless, expect a bounce back season. Not 2013 Parker. But I expect a minutes-managed 2014 Parker that is overall healthier and smarter in his play.

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    I think LMA is one spot behind Duncan at 12 and 11 respectively. I can't tell because the mobile version of the site doesn't put the numbers next to the players.
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    LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE

    Spurs | Forward | Last year: 12
    In back-to-back seasons, Aldridge was the definitive axis of one of the NBA’s better offenses. Portland leaned heavily on Aldridge’s post game as a means of creation. Individual coverage with committed perimeter defense would be met with a turnaround jumper—the staple of his repertoire. Any additional pressure or laziness on the part of off-ball defenders would feed into the Blazers’ flow. Aldridge would first give up the ball in the cleanest way possible and following a chain reaction of swing passes, Portland would either seize an opportunity or reset through Aldridge. That basic rhythm carried the Blazers to something resembling le contention; although reasonable people can disagree as to how much of a threat they posed, the healthy 2014–15 Blazers had all the statistical markings of a should-be contender.The style they played relied on Aldridge’s ability to take and make certain kinds of difficult shots at the expense of his shooting efficiency. Aldridge’s 8.7 post-up possessions per game was the second-highest mark of its kind, according to Synergy Sports. Those possessions are inherently less fruitful than others spent rolling to the rim or working the offensive glass. No matter how skilled a post player might be, high usage in that space will result in markedly lower shot-for-shot efficiency. Aldridge took that fact in stride and thrived all the same behind one of the NBA’s highest usage rates. If Portland needed him to structure possessions through the threat of his scoring, so be it.All of which speaks to the fact that Aldridge can both carry a smart, balanced offense like the Blazers or change his role to allow for a different kind of shot profile. Teams could play him inside or out, as a central hub or one creator among several. Just don't ask him to play center.
    It’s perfectly understandable that Aldridge, no matter his size and strength, would rather not tussle with centers on a full-time basis. His rebounding is only so-so and playing bigger means backing down stronger post defenders on a nightly basis. Should Aldridge ever change his mind, however, he’d make a damn near ideal center in the modern NBA. The spacing speaks for itself. When a team’s least rangy position is occupied by one of the deadliest midrange shooters in the game, it affords the offense a wide variety of productive courses. Defensively, Aldridge is 1) better than he’s often given credit, provided that he’s dialed in, and 2) tall enough to handle more conventional matchups. Aldridge won’t provide an especially rigid line of rim protection, though he picks up early and moves his feet rather well.
    Last we saw Aldridge, he had already checked out of a Blazers playoff series still in progress. It doesn’t even seem fair to demerit him much for that; for the star of an injured team to feel defeated in the midst of an extended tailspin seems rather reasonable, if unfortunate. Aldridge’s greater body of work speaks to a more committed player—one willing and able to steady a quality team over the long haul. – R.M.

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    TIM DUNCAN

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    The new Netflix series “Narcos” repeatedly recites an old line, the one about how only the roaches will survive a nuclear holocaust. I watched as the show’s camera tracked these perseverant little bugs across a post-apocalyptic desert, and I kept expecting an unfazed Tim Duncan to be banking in jumpers and posting a 20-plus PER somewhere in the dusty background.
    Remarkably, Duncan remained in the conversation as the NBA’s best all-around big man in 2014–15, his age-38 season. The future Hall of Famer saw his per-game production slip to 14/9, near the low-water mark of his career, but he plunged through another excellent campaign that saw him earn All-Star, All-NBA and All-Defensive honors. San Antonio won 55 games and made the playoffs for the 18th time in Duncan’s 18-year career that the Spurs posted a winning percentage of .610 or greater and the 18th time they’ve advanced to the postseason. Duncan posted a 22.6 PER, the 18th time in his 18-year career he posted a PER above 20. Duncan averaged 17/11 per-36 minutes, the 18th time in his 18-year career that he’s done that (rounding up). You get the picture.And yet it gets
    better. Duncan ranked in the top 15 league-wide in PER, Win Shares, Real Plus-Minus, and WARP; the only other players to fit that bill were LeBron James, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Anthony Davis, Stephen Curry and James Harden, the NBA’s top six MVP candidates, who all happen to be 30 or younger. From a PER standpoint, Duncan posted the second-best age-38 season in NBA history, trailing only Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in 1986. From a Win Shares standpoint, Duncan’s season was fourth all-time at his age, trailing only Abdul-Jabbar, John Stockton (2001) and Karl Malone (2002). Take a moment to truly digest that: Duncan was simultaneously in the mix with today’s greats, regardless of age, and history’s all-time greats at his age.
    Try as he might to cede some of center stage to his younger teammates, Duncan proved to be San Antonio’s most formidable figure again in the playoffs. Tony Parker didn’t look healthy. Manu Ginobili was just too shaky. Danny Green was streaky. Kawhi Leonard never fully took over in the series-deciding sequences. And yet there was Duncan, nuclear winter survivor, posting 28/11 in Game 2 to even the series and 21/11 in Game 5 to give the Spurs a 3–2 series lead. There was Duncan, stymying Griffin in signature fashion.It should have been enough to break the Clippers, but it wasn’t. Barely. Chris Paul claimed the series with a remarkable last-second shot in Game 7. The last time the Spurs were beaten by a devastating shot, Game 6 of the 2013 Finals, Duncan rallied the troops to make a resounding run to the 2014 le. A similar bounceback season is a possibility in 2016, thanks to a strong summer that included the addition of LaMarcus Aldridge(a longtime Duncan admirer) and David West as well as the re-signings of Leonard, Green and Ginobili. Duncan’s decision to continue his career and sign a comically cheap two-year, $10.4 million contract ensured the band got back together, and his ability to continue playing to his standard of excellence is a prerequisite for San Antonio’s le hopes.Duncan slips out of SI’s Top 10 for the first time since this list began in 2013. This wasn’t an easy call, given Duncan’s stabilizing effect throughout a regular season marred by injuries to his teammates and his strong (albeit brief) showing in the playoffs. Ultimately, his upcoming 40th birthday and the shifts brought on by Leonard’s ascension and Aldridge’s arrival provided enough cause to drop him six spots, as coach Gregg Popovich should be in position to manage Duncan’s season even more carefully. With any luck, these cir stances will lead to a Clippers/Spurs postseason rematch, or a Rockets/Spurs battle for Texas supremacy, or the highly-anticipated Warriors/Spurs showdown that didn’t materialize last season. Or, if we’re allowed to dream, maybe there’s still time for one more Finals showdown between Duncan and James. Just one more for the ages. – BG
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    The new Netflix series “Narcos” repeatedly recites an old line, the one about how only the roaches will survive a nuclear holocaust. I watched as the show’s camera tracked these perseverant little bugs across a post-apocalyptic desert, and I kept expecting an unfazed Tim Duncan to be banking in jumpers and posting a 20-plus PER somewhere in the dusty background.


    TD at #11 is not bad technically but I would have bumped him up one more to the top 10 out of respect for what he's producing at 38 yrs old.

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    I'd still take Duncan over LaMarcus tbh, especially in a Playoff series.

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    I'd still take Duncan over LaMarcus tbh, especially in a Playoff series.
    Feel lucky, the Spurs don't have to choose one or the other now, they have both.

    And Kawhi.

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    Kawhi Leonard, the only top 10 player who's still a role player for certain fans here...

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    Kawhi in the top 10? what a in joke. does that mean Matt Barnes is in the top 5?

    if this choker is ranked above Jimmy Buckets, then you can just throw the whole list in the trash

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    Jimmy at 18??? Kawhi top 10 above the likes of LMAlpha, tim, john wall, kyrie irving, and paul george? ing joke of a list

    The author must be the world's biggest kiwi got.

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    ...an objective poster.

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    Draymond Green at 16?










    Any got that thinks draymond green is the 16th best player in the league needs to be sterilized to protect the gene pool. any kiwi that uses this list in their favor should join them

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