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Why is snakeboy so salty? Tbh
I remember several years ago I was asked if I was going to pursue my PhD. My response was, if I needed a PhD, I would hire one.
Why is snakeboy so salty? Tbh
i really don't see how med school could be compared to being a physician
Good luck...follow your heart.
crushing blow and i'm not sure you'll ever recover
good luck
OP, the future of the global economy lies in sustainability: efficiency, closed loop production, renewable energy. Head in that direction and you can't go wrong.
Ever heard of Pay as You Earn? Caps monthly repayments at 10% of "disposable income" (defined in a fair way IMO and IIRC) and forgives the balance after 20 years of payments (though you're taxed on any amount forgiven as income). I'm carrying 6 figures of law school debt, and while the monthly debt payments hurt, they are definitely not crippling.
You probably should have at least gotten the MD no matter how painful. And you could have just gotten ty grades and still gotten some benefit from the credential. You just set aflame ~$30k tuition plus your opportunity cost of $50k or whatever for jack .
That's pretty weak, OP. All good degrees require you to put in a lot of work. It's necessary that everything gets thrown at you so that when you encounter it out in the field it isn't the first time you've heard of it...you don't have to retain absolutely everything for med school to serve a purpose. You want a simple job that doesn't throw a bunch of stuff at you? Go apply at McDonads and even then they'll require that you put in a couple of good years before you can get into management.
...which is completely irrelevant if you're doing something you hate and aren't committed to.
Also, money isn't the only measure of value.
And as archaic and impractical as medical education sounds, it's not as ed up and backwards as legal education, where at most schools you fart around reading old ass case law for three years and engage in mental masturbation with the goal of "thinking like a lawyer" - which is laughable bull - and most graduate with all for practical knowledge despite having paid steep tuition prices to support the exorbitant salaries of professors who by and large have never actually practiced law and are only experts at getting published and previously being a total got in law school.
That doesn't make it irrelevant at all.
engineering education >>>
My take is that even if you decided not to go into residency, the temporary suffering for 4 years to get that MD degree would've been worth it to open doors for you in the future whether in business, engineering, or what have you. That degree carries weight, even if you weren't planning on practicing as a physician. Just sayin. Good luck to you.
Working for Corporate America (esp. Big Pharma) as an analyst/consultant is an option but I'm a socialist at heart so I'm not sure I would enjoy it. Working for the gov't as a policymaker is also an option but it just sounds so dry & boring. Then there is the good ol' patent attorney career, yuck!
On the other hand, I wouldn't mind being a science writer if I could qualify as a "writer" but my ideal career would be working for a Biotech startup if it wasn't such a pretty unstable industry.
I'm just going to play it safe & stick to the clinical sciences then try to build some type of medical startup in Africa after learning mastering my craft in the States.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 09-09-2015 at 06:30 PM.
The journey to becoming a physician starts once you step a foot in med school & you are basically treading water until you retire.
The student loan debt wasn't the issue if it was then I wouldn't have signed up to go to Med school in the first place.
The teaching style just didn't fit my learning style whatsoever & I felt like I wasn't retaining enough of the material that I studied. I would compare it trying to memorizing a dictionary vs. learning in depth about the material from an encyclopedia. Some kids can just memorize the lecture & regurgitate it but I had to connect the dots for it to make sense to me otherwise I'm just not going to retain much of why I studied. The problem was I didn't have time to even open the textbook b/c they kept hitting up w/ 5 hour lectures daily (on top labs) which I had to go over (basically took me an additional 5 hrs) to even make sense of it.
Besides, you would get kicked out of med school if you have " ty grades" in TWO courses (below 70%) & that isn't hard to do considering a handful of my former classmates that I talked to got below a 70% on the most recent exam (they are praying for the curve). You would also get kicked out if you don't pass boards (Step I/II) on two tries. So you are going to get weeded out before you are awarded your MD if you try to push through without retaining most of the material or at least having some high level memorization skills.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 09-09-2015 at 06:27 PM.
Depends on the field ... Ortho and ER are hot right now. Radiology, not so much.
70% isn't hard to get. BRS/Case review books. Had professors sometimes drop hints during class about particular important topics. Step I and II take effort to study for, but are very doable. I think the 1st time pass rates are fairly high. That being said, people I know who struggled with the USMLE exams, struggled at taking exams. All were very bright individuals, but were poor test takers.
Interesting thread I know quite a few people in college who ended up going to med school. When I talk to them the great majority say now that they regret it and this is after now making money. From all of them I hear them all say they hate the hours and really don't like the patients since in most cases the patients tend to be annoying after a while. I think being a doctor is still a good career path but its not as luxurious as it once was 20 years ago due to now corporations having more control of the medical industry. Doctors are now being measured by metrics and have to fill out more paperwork than they did in the past so that makes job more miserable. Being a doctor still gets you an upper middle class lifestyle and provides career stability but it's definitely not a field you want to get into if your goal is to become rich. I say this because a lot of kids try to become doctors because they think the career path will make them rich.
You don't make money in medicine. You pay the bills in medicine. If you want to make money, go into business.
And yes, going into medicine isn't cush. I typically work 60-70 hour weeks, call at least 1-2/week. 1 weekend a month working (so non stop working for 2 weeks straight, barely seeing family). Note I'm in private practice, not academics.
I don't get hounded with a ton of calls in my speciality, but some can have the phone ringing off of the hook all night.
Lots of paperwork. Lots of $$$ to maintain licenses, certifications, medical education, etc. Liability insurance.
Its a masochistic lifestyle.
Some patients are great, others suck. It is what it is.
As a law school graduate I would tend to agree with most of this rant.
We studied off BRS as a group for the 1st MGA exam & the majority of the class got their ass kicked. It wasn't the 2nd/3rd order BRS style clinical questions (which I prefer) that were the killers it was the fact the professor decided to ask a bunch of 1st order neurovascular questions thus it was pure memorization (Netters Flashcards, ugh). As far as the boards exams, I'm not a great standardized test taker so it might have been a struggle. For me it just wasn't worth it to work as hard as I can & still be stressed out about passing exams (we basically had exams EVERY Monday &/or sometimes on Fridays so I couldn't even take a breather on the weekends). Had I finished my 2nd year then it would be worrying about the board exams while slaving away at the clinics.
Honestly bro, you sound like a ing pussy, either medicine was or wasnt for you but dont make up this bull about not passing to rationalize your decision, pass rates at medical school are well above 90%
If you are worried about putting in hard work than you should probably just kill yourself now because *newsflash* life is hard and will only get harder, school is ing easy, bills and a family, not so much
l already had a well paying job before I went to medical school & I can tell you paying the bills was one of the easiest things I had to do in my life. On the other hand, you might want to try locking yourself in a study room essentially memorizing mind numbing material for 4 months straight then get back at me. There are a select few w/ ridiculous memorization skills or are plain geniuses who have an easier go at it than the majority but the rest are essentially torturing themselves. Most of them put themselves through this for 4 years because they have some ulterior motive that goes beyond wanting to help people such as prestige/money, family/peer pressure, not having other career interests, religious "calling"(esp. Mormons)...etc. I for one am not willing to subjugate myself to torture because I have other career interests & never cared about the prestige/money nor do I have any family/peer pressure or religious "calling" (I'm an atheist) to become a physician.
If you think everyone learns the same way & has the same ulterior motive thus I should be able to plow through it just because your uncle did then I guess I'm a "pussy".
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