Where did you copy this from?
Putin has decided he has gotten everything he wanted in Ukraine and is now going balls deep into Syria.
The thing to remember about the Syrian civil war is that is was instigated by the US. It was the US which funded and supported the Syrian rebels and ISIS because they want to remove Assad from power.
Assad is a long term ally of Russia so this is unacceptable to Putin.
Russia will not be giving Syria aircraft or taking aircraft to Syria. Aircraft is a weakness in the Russian military, they know they cannot hope to match NATO air superiority so they don't even try. Instead it spent all of its money on defending itself from those.
The Russian S-400 is the most sophisticated anti-aircraft weapon in the world.
It is relatively cheap, easy to use, can be transported quickly and disguised, it is capable of locating and destroying stealth bombers and drones. It may or may not be capable of destroying high al ude stealth spy planes.
The immediate benefit of Russia entering the war is that NATO will no longer be able to attack Assad by airstrike.
Assad already has plenty of ground troops, Russia will proved the artillery and heavy armor he has been lacking.
Worse case scenario NATO breaks off their attacks on Syria completely, best case scenario they have to collaborate with Russian and Syrian forces.
This is actually a brilliant move by Putin. Europe will now be looking at Putin to help solve their refugee crisis and the ISIS crisis. Expect the 'sanctions' against Russia to end in the near future with Crimea still in the possession of Russia.
Where did you copy this from?
Russia 'plans forward air operating base' in Syria - US
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34252810
Lots to items around about Russia supporting Assad.
Russia's Lavrov says Moscow to continue military support of Syria
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...edName=topNews
A little more insight into why it all got started.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar-Turkey_pipeline
The Qatar-Turkey pipeline is a proposed natural gas pipeline running from the Iranian-Qatari South Pars / North Dome Gas-Condensate field field towards Turkey, where it could connect with the Nabucco pipeline to supply European customers as well as Turkey. One route to Turkey is via Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria,[1][2] and another is through Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq.[3][4] Syria's rationale for rejecting the Qatar proposal was said to be "to protect the interests of [its] Russian ally, which is Europe's top supplier of natural gas."[1]
Hope red army goes 1945 on them terrorists. Our last hope
I find it funny that most American civilians will be rooting for Russia to defeat American trained and armed terrorists
Russian armor and artillery will give Assad the offensive punch needed to break the stalemate. Tanks with infantry support will allow them to outmaneuver and siege Isis strongholds while artillery mops things up. I'm thinking 2 years left in this conflict before Syria is 100% back under government control.
I wish. But doubtful. Russia had major troubles in Afghanistan and they will in Syria. Not to mention US and Saudi will be funding and arming the terrorists as they did in Afghanistan.
But I do hope at least Russia helps stabilize regions of Syria.
Maybe Russia can do what Obama doesn't have the balls to do?
Sad, isn't it...
Different terrain.
The terrain in Afghanistan is the biggest problem for anything but horses, on hoot, etc.
Massive, historic drought also contributed to starting the civil war: http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...he-syrian-war/
I do hope Russia's intervention helps put Assad over the top. The US and the West are on the wrong side of history, Russians are trying to restore order.Drying and drought in Syria from 2006 to 2011—the worst on record there—destroyed agriculture, causing many farm families to migrate to cities. The influx added to social stresses already created by refugees pouring in from the war in Iraq, explains Richard Seager, a climate scientist at Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory who co-authored the study. The drought also pushed up food prices, aggravating poverty. “We’re not saying the drought caused the war,” Seager said. “We’re saying that added to all the other stressors, it helped kick things over the threshold into open conflict. And a drought of that severity was made much more likely by the ongoing human-driven drying of that region.”
isis is an actual state controlling towns and cities, it's different from mountain guerrilla warfare. This one is definitely winnable. Isis is lucky Assad has been short on armor and transport vehicles. Mobility is what allowed Germany to dominate France in 39. Blitzkrieg. A bunch of foot soldiers with no support won't be able to hang. Isis supply lines will be cut like a hot knife through butter.
Dont forget that isis is pretty much an occupying force and is hated by the locals, they'll turn on them as soon as they get the chance.
ROFL....
Military geenyus solves it.
You missed a few things in your over-simplification. It won't be quite that easy, but I will leave it to you to figure out the deets, if you can.
I will give you a hint about one potential foil to that tidy scenario:
Beans.
As for Russia wading in... let them.
Correct, mostly.
Meh. Like we need to wade back into the swamp?
No thanks. Let them sort it out. We don't need the oil, and benefit if it all goes up in flames. Time has come to let them stand or fall on their own.
I have little doubt that if Obama did that, you would criticize that too.
Of course it's a basic oversimplification. Did you expect me to write a novel detailing all of the fictional battles that haven't happened yet?
tanks with infantry support beat infantry every time. When they properly guard the flanks and protect the rear that thing becomes a damn near impenetrable battering ram. Those guns are a game changer and the cannon can reach out a couple miles and pulverize buildings.
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US and Saudi Arabia have wanted "regime change" in Syria, because it worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan.
For Those Who Remain in Syria, Daily Life Is a Nightmare
Every morning, at the dawn call to prayer, women and children move silently from the Damascus suburb of Douma to the surrounding farm fields, seeking safety from the day’s bombardments by the Syrian government.
The walk is part of a surreal routine described by the fraction of Douma’s residents who remain: shopping on half-demolished streets, scavenging wild greens, carrying out mass burials. But not even the fields are safe; recently, medics said, bombs killed two families there — 10 people, including seven children.
As crowds of Syrians transfix the world with their flight to Europe, this kind of life is one of the many nightmares they are fleeing. They leave behind increasingly empty neighborhoods — from the Damascus suburbs to the northern city of Aleppo — that testify to the scale of their exodus.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/16/wo...ushpmg00000003
Thanks, Repugs!
Disagree that ISIS is an occupying force. Don't forget majority of Syria is Sunni so they are pretty popular since they hate Assad. Young people also like them since it gives them opportunities they could never have without them.
Ppl are underestimating the foothold of ISIS on the general Sunni populaces.
ISIS forces will be hiding behind these civilians and it will be tough if not impossible to completely defeat them.
Still at least Russia has the balls to put their boots on the ground and take the side of the good guys vs these barbarian terrorists. Wish other western nations would ing wake up.
West 'ignored Russian offer in 2012 to have Syria's Assad step aside'
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...sad-step-aside
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