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    Your conclusions aren't based in fact or data. That's what I took issue with. If there were facts or data to back up your assertion I would've happily conceded the point. So you get internet points for being bold and making a stand on something you have no way of backing up, while you pass off my "wait-and-see" approach is a waste of time? Good job,Internet police.
    Yes, it's based a ton of data showing is bad shooting percentages and poor team-offensive numbers. What you want is a stat saying Jimmer gets blocked more than other people. There are multiple reasons why that's a silly stat to look for. The most prominent is that Jimmer DOESN'T get blocked more than the average player. He simply doesn't shoot that many catch-and-shoot threes because he is constantly pulling it down or resetting. That is extremely easy to see from watching any video of him. What you're suggesting by saying that those vids aren't "data" or aren't sufficient samples is that there's a much larger sample in the world of him succeeding in catch-and-shoot opportunities.

    In essence, you want to be lazy and think an uninformed opinion should have as much weight as an informed one. And you're banking on confidence intervals to do so. You don't want to think. You don't want to watch videos and learn about shooting forms and angles and windows and how all that plays into performance. That's fine. But that doesn't somehow mean that another person doing those things is not dealing in "facts" or "data". You don't seem like someone who really understands why those things are important judging simply by your comments in this thread. You just seem like you want a safe place to backpedal, and appealing to ignorance is the best thing you can come up with.
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    Dude, the guy shot 49 percent from 3 in Sac his last season there. I think he can "get away with it". Improvements are a worthy discussion. But don't act like Jimmer hasn't shown that he can shoot the 3 in the NBA.
    How many of those were spot-up threes, though? He wasn't a spot-up guy in college, either. It's just not a skill-set he's shown so far. Will he be able to fix that with the Spurs? I simply don't see Pop letting him take the 30-foot pull-ups that make up most of his perimeter game.
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    How many of those were spot-up threes, though?
    They mostly weren't spot-ups, tbh. You think the likes of Marcus Thornton, Tyreke Evans, DeMarcus Cousins and Rudy Gay and chucker Isiah Thomas are making the extra pass? :
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    I simply don't see Pop letting him take the 30-foot pull-ups that make up most of his perimeter game.
    So, your theory is that Pop wants to leave points on the table? If JImmer's wide open from 26-30, the deed is done.
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    They mostly weren't spot-ups, tbh. You think the likes of Marcus Thornton, Tyreke Evans, DeMarcus Cousins and Rudy Gay and chucker Isiah Thomas are making the extra pass? :
    Well, the Spurs WILL be making those passes, so Jimmer's going to need to hit spot-up shots outside of garbage time if he wants minutes.

    So, your theory is that Pop wants to leave points on the table? If JImmer's wide open from 26-30, the deed is done.
    Well, he really doesn't allow the Spurs to take many pull-up threes. Mills take the most on the team, I'd assume. Those shots are usually open, but they're also more difficult, so their efficiency is usually low. I don't think Pop's going to be happy with anyone shooting those shots unless that player is already hot.
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    Jimmer... that name is straight out of South Park
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    Chinook with repeated unstoppable post moves tbh.
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    Well, the Spurs WILL be making those passes, so Jimmer's going to need to hit spot-up shots outside of garbage time if he wants minutes.



    Well, he really doesn't allow the Spurs to take many pull-up threes. Mills take the most on the team, I'd assume. Those shots are usually open, but they're also more difficult, so their efficiency is usually low. I don't think Pop's going to be happy with anyone shooting those shots unless that player is already hot.
    Get over it. Jimmer will be able to play the Patty/Marco role. He will be able to pull up threes, just like patty and just like neal, and just like marco. Pop signed all those players to take shots. Don't know why it would be different with JF.
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    Get over it. Jimmer will be able to play the Patty/Marco role. He will be able to pull up threes, just like patty and just like neal, and just like marco. Pop signed all those players to take shots. Don't know why it would be different with JF.
    Those guys don't JUST take those shots. Those guys could play off the ball. If Jimmer can't consistently do that, he won't get minutes.
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    Those guys don't JUST take those shots. Those guys could play off the ball. If Jimmer can't consistently do that, he won't get minutes.
    Gary Neal couldn't do anything..... had to have the ball in his hands..... had to try and hide on defense....
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    Well, the Spurs WILL be making those passes, so Jimmer's going to need to hit spot-up shots outside of garbage time if he wants minutes.



    Well, he really doesn't allow the Spurs to take many pull-up threes. Mills take the most on the team, I'd assume. Those shots are usually open, but they're also more difficult, so their efficiency is usually low. I don't think Pop's going to be happy with anyone shooting those shots unless that player is already hot.
    I'll give you this; Pop may reign Jimmer in some on whatever instances he wants for the long threes. But I doubt he's gonna do something like tell Jimmer not to shoot from two or three feet back of the line; and I would give it as my opinion that Pop will want Jimmer to shoot the wide open transition threes.

    Not sure what makes you think hitting open spot-ups is an issue; but that's ok.

    Furthermore, Jimmer vs. Mills, they're both pretty well the same at shooting transition threes. The difference is that Jimmer can shoot from further. He led the league in deep three percentage at 52 percent at one point.
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    Well, he really doesn't allow the Spurs to take many pull-up threes. Mills take the most on the team, I'd assume. Those shots are usually open, but they're also more difficult, so their efficiency is usually low. I don't think Pop's going to be happy with anyone shooting those shots unless that player is already hot.

    This is incorrect

    Transition threes are an easier attempt and have greater efficiency by about 3%

    Assuming Jimmer gets playing time it is likely he gets the green light (As Mills & Green do) to take the pull up three.
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    A few days ago, Jimmer concluded his charity Jimmerosity event in Provo:













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    This is incorrect

    Transition threes are an easier attempt and have greater efficiency by about 3%

    Assuming Jimmer gets playing time it is likely he gets the green light (As Mills & Green do) to take the pull up three.
    Absolutely would have a green light, otherwise there would be zero reason why he would be on the court.
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    trying to be famous by doing charity work...
    Dude actually does real charity and you find fault...
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    "At the January 10th mark, they have to decide if they want to keep me or not," Fredette said. "Obviously they can cut you at any time before but they have to pay you for the full half year. It's my job to go out and show them what I have so they want to keep me for the rest of the year."
    The ex-Cougar star said he's very excited about the upcoming season.

    "I'm coming in with the expectation that I'm going to have to work as hard as I can in order to get playing time, to break my way into the rotation," Fredette said. "One thing that I do know is that if I'm on the team, they do give guys rests so I will have opportunities to play. I think it's my type of basketball and I fit in the system really well. I love the guys there, very compe ive guys but they want to help you help them win games. I'm excited to be a part of that type of culture. I couldn't ask for a better situation."
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    "At the January 10th mark, they have to decide if they want to keep me or not," Fredette said. "Obviously they can cut you at any time before but they have to pay you for the full half year. It's my job to go out and show them what I have so they want to keep me for the rest of the year."
    The ex-Cougar star said he's very excited about the upcoming season.

    "I'm coming in with the expectation that I'm going to have to work as hard as I can in order to get playing time, to break my way into the rotation," Fredette said. "One thing that I do know is that if I'm on the team, they do give guys rests so I will have opportunities to play. I think it's my type of basketball and I fit in the system really well. I love the guys there, very compe ive guys but they want to help you help them win games. I'm excited to be a part of that type of culture. I couldn't ask for a better situation."
    Glad to hear. Wish him the best.
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    Glad to hear. Wish him the best.
    Me too. He has the right at ude and is aware he will have chances, but that he has to make the most of them.
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    Less than 2 weeks until we catch this in Training Camp

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    Less than 2 weeks until we catch this in Training Camp

    Agreed. Jimmer got a raw deal in Sacramento. I don't think most Spurs fans and their media understand what they're getting.
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    Jimmer will be an all star before KL
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    Jimmer will be an all star before KL
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    HE CAN'T EVEN START AT THE KINGS
    Neither could Danny for the Cavs and was cut...
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    'Rustle my Jimmers' would be a great le for an HBO do entary
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    I can't work out if this dude is serious or not? 56 pages on Jimmer Ferdette? Has to be trolling. Dude is a rec baller
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