14 Year Old Muslim Arrested For Bringin A Clock To School

[ChumpDumper]

I'm still talking about the birther rumors, David. Those were first leaked by her PUMA PAC.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-birthers.html[/FONT][/COLOR]

lol David -- now you're trying to pass off a message board as a political action committee.

This keeps getting better and better, cuck.

[Silver&Black]

Do you really think Hillary didn't know what her own PAC was doing? She spent that entire campaign hiding behind "surrogates" to smear Obama..

I guarantee you she was the 1st phone call when this intel was discovered. The very first call...

[ChumpDumper]

I guarantee you she was the 1st phone call when this intel was discovered. The very first call...

lol intel

lol PAC

lol "/discussion"

[Silver&Black]

Yeah because "All these people did these atrocious things without her knowing ANYTHING" seems a lot more logical...



Are you blind Chump? Toeing the party line awfully tight tonight I see.....

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah because "All these people did these atrocious things without her knowing ANYTHING" seems a lot more logical...



Are you blind Chump? Toeing the party line awfully tight tonight I see.....

Do you think Donald Trump knows what CN and you are posting about him right now?

Yes or no.

It was a post on a message board. Anyone can do it. Even you.

I certainly think the Clinton campaigners were idiots about it once they were asked.

[Reck]

Everybody is missing the main point: they didn't actually treat the situation as a bomb threat, as they didn't call in a bomb squad, nor did they evacuate the school. Nobody believed anybody was in danger. People are saying everyone involved erred on side of caution, yet this caution kept the danger on a crowded school grounds with no specialists requested to disarm the danger.

So, how much danger did they really believe they were in?

Basically this argument paints the picture of just enough caution to embarrass/harass a 14-YO who never said it was a bomb, but not any actual caution to do anything to save lives had it been a bomb.

Whole thing is stupid, but as someone who's graded science projects for high schoolers, visual quality isn't always their strong suit. If it work, nobody cares about the housing.

That's what I thought when I first read it.

The teacher thought it was suspeciously like a bomb but she kept it? Had it been real, they would have been blown the up.

Stupid s.

[Clipper Nation]

lol David -- now you're trying to pass off a message board as a political action committee.

This keeps getting better and better, cuck.

PUMA ("People United Means Action") was a political action committee in the United States that opposed the Democratic Party leadership and the nomination of Sen. Barack Obama as the Democratic candidate for President in the 2008 presidential election.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peop...d_Means_Action


You are profoundly re ed, David.

[ChumpDumper]

PUMA ("People United Means Action") was a political action committee in the United States that opposed the Democratic Party leadership and the nomination of Sen. Barack Obama as the Democratic candidate for President in the 2008 presidential election.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peop...d_Means_Action


You are profoundly re ed, David.

Investigations for my new book, Wingnuts, revealed that the Birther conspiracy theory was first concocted by renegade members of the original Obama haters, Party Unity My Ass, known more commonly by their acronym, the PUMAs.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-birthers.html

Cucked by your own link again, David.

lol

Seriously, did you read any of the things you link?

[mouse]

Lol quality. That's funny.

About time you gave some props.

[Chinook]

I apologize if this has been posted already. I don't watch Bill Maher, because I think he's a - , but I saw this on Facebook (just the first few minutes):



Gist is according to Cuban, the kid was uncooperative prior to the thing becoming an incident. No one thought it was a bomb, but teachers wanted him to put it away for hours, and he refused, which started making people nervous. That on its face is grounds for discipline. And it definitely takes credibility from the victimization angle. It comes off like I was saying it did: The kid was subverting authority for no reason and got into trouble for it. The police were wrong and will pay for it, but the kid's at ude is one we NEED to get out of people's heads.

It also adds a different spin on the "That's who I thought it was" comment, as it seems possible that this kid was just one of those bag guys with a superiority complex. He definitely doesn't deserve the praise he's getting.

[Reck]

I apologize if this has been posted already. I don't watch Bill Maher, because I think he's a - , but I saw this on Facebook (just the first few minutes):



Gist is according to Cuban, the kid was uncooperative prior to the thing becoming an incident. No one thought it was a bomb, but teachers wanted him to put it away for hours, and he refused, which started making people nervous. That on its face is grounds for discipline. And it definitely takes credibility from the victimization angle. It comes off like I was saying it did: The kid was subverting authority for no reason and got into trouble for it. The police were wrong and will pay for it, but the kid's at ude is one we NEED to get out of people's heads.

It also adds a different spin on the "That's who I thought it was" comment, as it seems possible that this kid was just one of those bag guys with a superiority complex. He definitely doesn't deserve the praise he's getting.

Nice theory..

[ChumpDumper]

I apologize if this has been posted already. I don't watch Bill Maher, because I think he's a - , but I saw this on Facebook (just the first few minutes):



Gist is according to Cuban, the kid was uncooperative prior to the thing becoming an incident. No one thought it was a bomb, but teachers wanted him to put it away for hours, and he refused. That on its face is grounds for discipline. And it definitely takes credibility from the victimization angle. It comes off like I was saying it did: The kid was subverting authority for no reason and got into trouble for it. The police were wrong and will pay for it, but the kid's at ude is one we NEED to get out of people's heads.

It also adds a different spin on the "That's who I thought it was" comment, as it seems possible that this kid was just one of those bag guys with a superiority complex. He definitely doesn't deserve the praise he's getting.

So the latest spin attempt is the school called the police because Ahmed was being sassy?

That's even worse tbh.

These theories really need to be focus grouped before dissemination.

[Chinook]

So the latest spin attempt is the school called the police because Ahmed was being sassy?

That's even worse tbh.

These theories really need to be focus grouped before dissemination.

It seemed sort of obvious from the first story I saw that the kid didn't divulge what happened to the police. And that's understandable, since we have Miranda rights and all that. But it also seems like he didn't explain himself to teachers either. That's not okay. And if he was seriously his SIXTH period class when his teacher freaked, it seems obvious that the school didn't think it was actually a bomb. Instead, they thought it was the kid trying to scare people by pretending it was a bomb. That's actually what the popo has been saying the whole time, so it's not really a new theory.

I do think what Chris Matthews said at like the six-minute mark is what rings truest: People took sides before even knowing what happened. There was no investigation before everyone declared the kid a hero. You had folks like Blake saying, 'Of course; it's Dallas.' For some reason, the kid's testimony, which was being coached, is considered ironclad, and everything that the school and police are saying is considered an attempt to cover this up. It's ing pathetic for people who are ignorant on this matter outside of a view articles to try to take the intellectual high road.

[ChumpDumper]

It seemed sort of obvious from the first story I saw that the kid didn't divulge what happened to the police. And that's understandable, since we have Miranda rights and all that. But it also seems like he didn't explain himself to teachers either. That's not okay. And if he was seriously his SIXTH period teach for freaked, it seems obvious that the school didn't think it was actually a bomb. Instead, they thought it was the kid trying to scare people by pretending it was a bomb. That's actually what the popo has been saying the whole time, so it's not really a new theory.

I do think what Chris Matthews said at like the six-minute mark is what rings truest: People took sides before even knowing what happened. There was no investigation before everyone declared the kid a hero. You had folks like Blake saying, 'Of course; it's Dallas.' For some reason, the kid's testimony, which was being coached, is considered ironclad, and everything that the school and police are saying is considered an attempt to cover this up. It's ing pathetic for people who are ignorant on this matter outside of a view articles to try to take the intellectual high road.

He told everyone it's a clock.

It is, in fact, a clock.

What more did he have to say?

I don't think anyone is trying to cover anything up. I just think the school and the police look ridiculous in what they have actually said about the incident.

[ChumpDumper]

Since everyone involved knew it wasn't a bomb, all the teacher had to say was "Put that away. Thing looks like a bomb. People could freak out over that."

And if he didn't put it away, take it away until class is over.

I see no other course of action here that is justified.

[Chinook]

He told everyone it's a clock.

It is, in fact, a clock.

What more did he have to say?

That doesn't do anything. It doesn't explain anything; it doesn't defuse any tension. And refusing to explain it or put it away creates more tension. The kid himself knew it was su ious, or could be taken that way. So if he knew it was su ious and still kept out there even after being told to put it away, it's his fault.

It's like if you walked into the cafeteria with a glass flask filled with brown liquid (no labels):

Teacher: Chump, what's that?
You: It's tea.
T: Why do you have it in an old liquor bottle?
Y: It's tea.
T: Well, can you put it away? It looks su ious.
Y: It's tea.
T: Look, Chump, put it away, or will have the officer (all schools have them) take it from you.
Y: It's tea.

Is the teacher an idiot here? There are some very easy ways to tell that it's tea and not alcohol. But why is it the teacher's responsibility to determine that beyond a shadow of a doubt? And who are you to decline the teacher's request to put it away? They might suspend you even after they find out the flask had tea and no alcohol. You didn't lie, but you didn't cooperate, and you made it into a big deal.

[Chinook]

Since everyone involved knew it wasn't a bomb, all the teacher had to say was "Put that away. Thing looks like a bomb. People could freak out over that."

There's a difference between "No one thought it was a bomb," and "Everyone knew it wasn't." Initially, no one thought it was su ious. But after he refused to put it away, it started to be become su ious. No one thought it was a bomb still, it seems, but people may have thought he wanted to make a big deal about it. Maybe simply because he was proud of his work. Maybe because he knows what kind of reaction a Muslim kid walking around with a device like that would warrant, and it was sort of a thrill. If you think that's silly, you probably don't know what being a minority is like. I can tell you from experience that it's sometimes cool to use stereotypes to your advantage. Being a large black man, I can totally bull my way past some things just by seeming angry and confrontational. Of course, after the police shootings, I wouldn't think of doing that anymore.

[ChumpDumper]

That doesn't do anything. It doesn't explain anything; it doesn't defuse any tension. And refusing to explain it or put it away creates more tension. The kid himself knew it was su ious, or could be taken that way. So if he knew it was su ious and still kept out there even after being told to put it away, it's his fault.

It's like if you walked into the cafeteria with a glass flask filled with brown liquid (no labels):

Teacher: Chump, what's that?
You: It's tea.
T: Why do you have it in an old liquor bottle?
Y: It's tea.
T: Well, can you put it away? It looks su ious.
Y: It's tea.
T: Look, Chump, put it away, or will have the officer (all schools have them) take it from you.
Y: It's tea.

Is the teacher an idiot here? There are some very easy ways to tell that it's tea and not alcohol. But why is it the teacher's responsibility to determine that beyond a shadow of a doubt? And who are you to decline the teacher's request to put it away? They might suspend you even after they find out the flask had tea and no alcohol. You didn't lie, but you didn't cooperate, and you made it into a big deal.

Yeah, of course the teacher would be an idiot in that case.

Why would a teacher ask a kid to put a bottle away if that teacher thought there was liquor in it? It's the cafeteria. That's the place kids have liquids out.

To drink.

That would be an even more stupid suspension that the clock suspension.

[ChumpDumper]

There's a difference between "No one thought it was a bomb," and "Everyone knew it wasn't." Initially, no one thought it was su ious. But after he refused to put it away, it started to be become su ious. No one thought it was a bomb still, it seems, but people may have thought he wanted to make a big deal about it. Maybe simply because he was proud of his work. Maybe because he knows what kind of reaction a Muslim kid walking around with a device like that would warrant, and it was sort of a thrill. If you think that's silly, you probably don't know what being a minority is like. I can tell you from experience that it's sometimes cool to use stereotypes to your advantage. Being a large black man, I can totally bull my way past some things just by seeming angry and confrontational. Of course, after the police shootings, I wouldn't think of doing that anymore.

At no time did anyone think it was a bomb, period.

If they did, then they all were completely derelict in their respective duties by keeping all the kids in that school that had a bomb in it.

You can't have it both ways.

From what I have read from the police, they wanted him to say that he deliberately made it look like a bomb to freak people out and used several officers to interrogate him without his parents to get that out of him.

Ridiculous.

[Chinook]

Yeah, of course the teacher would be an idiot in that case.

Why would a teacher ask a kid to put a bottle away if that teacher thought there was liquor in it? It's the cafeteria. That's the place kids have liquids out.

To drink.

That would be an even more stupid suspension that the clock suspension.

Because the teacher doesn't want to be an asshole and confiscate the bottle. The teacher could believe the student is telling the truth but knows that you aren't supposed to bring those bottles to school. If you have a kid, you should trying sending them to school with a bottle like that and see if they can get away with an "It's tea" retort. It's not that the world is full of idiots (it is, but that's the point), it's that your view on burden of proof in general discourse is skewed.

[ChumpDumper]

Because the teacher doesn't want to be an asshole and confiscate the bottle. The teacher could believe the student is telling the truth but knows that you aren't supposed to bring those bottles to school. If you have a kid, you should trying sending them to school with a bottle like that and see if they can get away with an "It's tea" retort. It's not that the world is full of idiots (it is, but that's the point), it's that your view on burden of proof in general discourse is skewed.

Wait, the teacher doesn't want to be an asshole but calls the cops on the kid?

That's being a colossal asshole.

If anyone thinks it's liquor, check. It's extremely easy to tell if a brown liquid is tea or liquor. If a teacher is more worried about the kid's thinking he's an asshole than the kid's actual welfare, he's already an asshole.

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-birthers.html

Cucked by your own link again, David.

lol

Seriously, did you read any of the things you link?

From the Wikipedia article:

The PUMA acronym as originally coined stood for "Party Unity My Ass"

You are incredibly dumb and desperate, David. Just give it up already, you lose.

[Clipper Nation]

It's like if you walked into the cafeteria with a glass flask filled with brown liquid (no labels):

Teacher: Chump, what's that?
You: What is your definition of "that"? Can you use it in a sentence?
T: Why do you have it in an old liquor bottle?
Y: I don't know, why do I have it in an old liquor bottle?
T: Well, can you put it away? It looks su ious.
Y: This is very important to you. Why are you so emotional about it? lol "su ious"
T: Look, Chump, put it away, or will have the officer (all schools have them) take it from you.
Y: I'm a got and a cuck.

FIFY

[ChumpDumper]

From the Wikipedia article:

The PUMA acronym as originally coined stood for "Party Unity My Ass"

You are incredibly dumb and desperate, David. Just give it up already, you lose.

lol message board

I can't believe you tried to pass off a message board as a PAC, David.

You keep cucking yourself.

[Clipper Nation]

lol message board

I can't believe you tried to pass off a message board as a PAC, David.

You keep cucking yourself.

PUMA is a PAC, David. Why can't a PAC have an official message board?

Face it, David: Hillary is a birther and the Democrats are the party of birthers. When you go to the polls on election day, you'll be voting for a birther. By your logic, that makes you a birther.