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Barnes will comfortably get more than that in free agency. He will get at least Kawhi money with the amount of cap space floating around in the summer
Harrison Barnes received an initial 4-year, $64M extension proposal from the Warriors, according to Yahoo! Sports. The offer wasn't accepted, but serves as a jumping off point for contract talks.Barnes, 23, averaged 10.1 PPG and 5.5 RPG last season.
Barnes will comfortably get more than that in free agency. He will get at least Kawhi money with the amount of cap space floating around in the summer
There is a lot of crappy teams out there that will offer Barnes the max next year.
This ...besides, not as bad as T.Thompson turning down $80 million. If he hits FA Lakers will chase him with a truckload. I like him ... but dont think he is a max guy (not even Kiwi is truly a max yet imho) but this is the NBA we live in.
Kiwi deserves it way more than Barnes though ... in my world Duncan makes max or close to it. LMA too. Kiwi just under and the old vets take club friendly deals to stay (green/parker/Manu/David West). but whatever. Players agreed to a dumb CBA.
Last edited by Killakobe81; 09-21-2015 at 03:44 PM.
He can thank Pop for whatever contract he gets. Pop by design let him go off on the spurs (couple of seasons ago) and fooled the media into thinking Barnes is actually a star player.
According to ST Thompson is scrub, Barnes is scrub, Draymond is scrub, Iggy is scrub, i guess Curry is the GOAT over MJ if he could take this team to a le...
Saw how much beta system role player got down here this summer and thought he deserves the same
If I was a GM, I wouldn't pay that much for HB on the open market; then again, the new TV deal / CBA might make these insane amounts the new normal.
yep. Agree 100% Also agree that he is not a scrub. Guy was the #1 HS player in the nation ...far less than that at UNC but a very good not great player.
That's like people from the 50's saying "I would never pay $3 a gallon for gas" because they are used to .87c per gallon. Well, they have no choice, that is the cost of gas now.
As we saw last year & his rookie season, he has to play alongside all-star players to be effective. He was absolutely trash in 2013-14 when they tried him out as a 6th man b/c he can't create his own shot besides posting up. He isn't better than Tobias Harris who just signed a 4yr/64mill contract. He's a better defender than Tobias but he's an average wing defender (LeBron feasted on him in the Finals when they were matched-up). The only thing that makes Barnes special is that he's is a deceptively strong dude who can check PFs (Z-Bo in the 2nd rd) & can hit open shot to keep the defense honest. Since the Warriors are a "small ball" team they might be tempted to overpay him otherwise team looking for a traditional wing player need to stay away from Barnes.
The Warriors also have to pay Ezeli next summer (while Bogut/Iggy are still under contract) & Curry will be due for a supermax extension in 2017.
Good take. He's not indispensable to the warriors like Draymond was this summer. If someone wants him real bad and some team might, it could be the first of the championship core to go. A team like Grizzlies for example would improve a whole lot with a wing like that. Just throwing one out there of a lot of teams who could overpay bc there will be cap space and he fills a specific need. I think he's gone.
Tristan' s contract situation is more difficult. The guy is an elite hustle/rebounder, but then very limited in other areas. I don't think he's a max player and may be dissappointed to find that out after he moves on from Cleveland.
He isn't a great postup defender nor a shot blocker thus he has to be in the perfect system to be a max type player. He would be a good fit playing alongside some like Anthony Davis who can protect the rim & score from outside the paint but doesn't like banging in the paint (similar to KG letting Perkins do the dirty work in Boston). He can move his feet laterally so they would be able to play big against "small ball" lineups. Maybe once Eric Gordon comes off the books he could be an option for the Pelicans if he ends up signing a one year contract.
So many teams will have cap space that some guys will get money that otherwise would not be obtainable. There are only a few true max guys around, but many teams will have cap space. I cited Grizzlies, but realy I don't know their cap situation and they have to pay Conley. Just in general I think that a team can visualize him as filling a specific need, like a Reggie Jackson in Detroit. He's still young and has enough potential to continue to improve and maybe add some things to team's starving in the wing department. It has to be the right situation for him, but that is free agency.
Kawhi got these scrubs thinking they need to get paid too
More like 25 cents a gallon. I was paying 65cents a gallon in the mid 80's. I'm sure in the 50's someone would have said "I am not paying 65 cents a gallon for gas" when they were making 50 cents an hour.
Teams well over the cap need to keep overpaying their own guys because they can't replace them for the MLE (or if over the tax, the taxpayer MLE). Barnes will get what he wants, or close to it.
I agree with cjw that the Warriors are in a position where they will probably give Barnes whatever he wants, but he's just an above average player that has shown no consistency during his time in the league, tbh..he doesn't do anything at a high level, either..
Curry is the best PG of this generation, but this post is stupid, as usual for you
That's an okay analogy; but we'll see if it ends up applying. $16 M for a fringe starter? If that's the new normal, then okay. We'll see.
And he turned that down, too? So, presumably he wants something more like 5 yrs / 95-100 mil. So, 19 mil for a not so great player?
You also the op username right? Why you posting with two usernames in same thread? You also known by your arrogance that cause the spurs numerous games by jinxing them... I say start giving more respect to other teams not the spurs...Curry is the best PG of this generation, but this post is stupid, as usual for you
True - it was not a well researched analogy from a relative youngin'
Yep, that or damn near it. He is smart.
I hadn't thought about this. GSW will indeed pay him what he wants, they want to avoid restricted free agency for a reason. Matching $ could be worse. Portland even tried to pry away Kanter from OKC for 70 mill. There will be at least one team that will screw GSW over.
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