90's Bulls wouldn't even make it to the playoffs in todays east...
Look at this ty ass team letting a 131lbs white American eat their ...
Jimmer ferddete can't even get a full contract and he's better tha Hornacek
In comparison, Ferdette is 10X the athlete and the ball player
90's
The ? You're making my point for me90's Bulls wouldn't even make it to the playoffs in todays east...
Look at this ty ass team letting a 131lbs white American eat their ...
Hornacek was a skilled player and he could actually DRIBBLE a basketball and create his own shot. He was a master at making off-balanced shots. But the guy on your team who can't dribble a basketball to save his life and airballs wide open layups/floaters is good for 10 million a year in this ty era
These two pages sum up your 10 million dollar player. And Spurs fans were saying this dude took a discount
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...247307&page=14
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...247307&page=15
Don't be jealous because you missed out on the most exciting player that ever played, someone I always rooted against.
The OP was started by a fan criticizing the 90's, we're just firing back. LOL at LeBron or Kobe being close to being considered GOAT. And this coming from a mild Jordan hater.Nostalgia fans
This isn't baseball, tbh
I would bet my life that Patrick Beverley would easily beat John Stockton 1 on 1..
Doubt it considering Stockton held his own consistently against a much superior player in Gary Payton who was also great defensive player.
This isn't baseball, tbh
I would bet my life that Patrick Beverley would easily beat John Stockton 1 on 1..
Man, tbh, can you imagine the backlash in the social media era if a -made player pulled some like this? What kind of embarrassing, disgraceful is that?
Imagine MJ with gimmicks. . . . . . . .https://grantland.com/the-triangle/t...ball-and-more/
On Lowe's podcast..just stating the obvious, tbh..
A funny list but be careful some will say this all part of your elevate Lebron plan. I dont agree with everything you say here especially your shots at MJ ... but folks here act as though if you say Mj has a flaw, it's sacrilege. Also The pippen thing doesnt get called out enough. Imagine if Russ, Harden, Dwight, cousins etc tried that in today's NBA?
Sorry didn't see the link you are right ...
This also true. No great GOAT candidate not Magic, Kareem, Jordan, Lebron or even Tim is without some flaws or "scabs" on their resume. For some it's off court stuff but even Jordan is not flawless as a player. I think when the dust settles it's MJ who is the most consistently great and dominating, but people act as though he only played those 6 le years and make excuses for any of the times he came up short as player, person or team-mate.
But he is clearly the GOAT none of the above changes that.
I'm sure he could've been a great minor league baseball player in today's game
Leaders in FGA for the Knicks:
91-92 to 96-97 - Ewing
97-98 - Allan Houston
When was Starks ever the 1st option on the Knicks?
Reggie Miller high points in a season - 24.6
Klay Thomspon - 21.7 (so far)
social media puts people in jail now? are courts held on Skype?
Dwight Howard
Dwight Howard, Baron Davis, Eddie Curry, Tony Parker.
because the 00s are still playing
Irrelevant
Bunch of soft sissies.
Lebron refusing to play for a team because it's not loaded, and still wilted in 2011 with a loaded team.
Check out 90s rap lyrics by prominent black artists.
Mark Jackson bullying soft players as a coach. Serge Ibaka and Jackson threatening each other over Twitter.
Tristan Thompson looking for max.
Can't post up
No more jump shots
And yet those players took such a bland product to new heights in the 90s.
I agree with Lowe.
And I say more; if Yugoslavia played in 92 Olympics, they'd beat "Dream" Team
I didn't "miss out" on anything, I watched that . I'm just not blinded by nostalgia and media propaganda. '90s ball ing sucked and was unwatchable 90% of the time. The only reason why people are convinced it wasn't is because the NBA is so bad at marketing that they still completely depend on a player who retired over a decade ago, and because the old media refuses to let go of their glory days (especially the salty former players who refuse to give today's players any credit for anything).
People complained at the time that it was a bad product because there wasn't enough scoring, but they still watched because it was the NBA. Much like how people complain about how biased the NFL's rules are in favor of offenses now, but we still watch because it's the NFL.
Who is saying either is GOAT. Lebron did have a chance and he had the physical chance to do it just like shaq did but Shaq failed and Lebron most likely has as well
The mistake you are making
More scoring = Better product
Is not working in the NFL either. First and foremost people want PHYSICALITY. They want to see players putting their bodies on the line. They don't want to see Millionaires smiling and dancing on the court. WE are the reason the NBA exists and WE are the ones housing/feeding these players. This fact is lost in the current NBA where the players put their wealth above the game. I would wager to say many if not most NBA players do not give 1 about the Fans or their cities. They treat each other [their opponents] as a special Club and we are the suckers paying to watch
read: "daddy! can you pay attention to me! i'm agreeing with you! please acknowledge!!"
I'm sure he could've been a great minor league baseball player in today's game
I'm not saying that more scoring automatically means a better product. I'm just pointing out that people complained about the low-scoring games at the time.
Also, there's a happy medium. I'm not saying every game has to be 190-189, but the 60-45 scores of the '90s didn't exactly make for thrilling games either. Iso-chucking on offense and hard fouls being passed off as "defense" amounts to a trash product.
And let's not pretend that players weren't all about the money in the '90s. Just look at the contracts DK was signing on a year-to-year basis in his late prime. Actual quote from Shaq when he signed with the Lakers: "I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok."
So you don't think an elite frontcourt and coach can drag a subpar backcourt across the finish line? The 2009-2010 Lakers say hi.
Pau was elite Bynum and Odom were very good players but let's not get crazy. And there is no one in the spurs current backcourt as good as Kobe was for those Lakers teams. People forget (i just watched the replays on NBATV) Bynum wasnt even healthy in 2010 and was just getting back to strength in 2009. And Ariza was great role player for us but far from "elite". Odom was versatile but could not shoot conistnetly or go "right". Freaking gortat drew two charges on Lamr in limited mins in the deciding game (5) of the 2009 NBA finals ...Fish though was uber clutch but I would say he Vuacic and Farmar were subpar ...but fish made as many clutch plays as Kobe or Pau.
That Laker team was very good well coached but the NBA was in a lax period. No way should that Lakers team win backtoback but Lebron wasnt ready, Spurs had to reforge themselves and Celts were falling apart. I give us credit for taking advantage but maybe only the repeat Rox as weak of a repat team in the modern NBA ... and I would still take them over us ... Kobe would of dominated those guards but Hakeem would of all over our bigs even Pau. But hey maybe or modern training diet and metrics would give us the edge over clutch city ...
If we move Kobe to the frontcourt the comparison becomes better. Then we're comparing Ariza to Green, who have similar roles. Kobe (then) > Kawhi (now), Pau > LMA and Duncan > Bynum, etc.Pau was elite Bynum and Odom were very good players but let's not get crazy. And there is no one in the spurs current backcourt as good as Kobe was for those Lakers teams. People forget (i just watched the replays on NBATV) Bynum wasnt even healthy in 2010 and was just getting back to strength in 2009. And Ariza was great role player for us but far from "elite". Odom was versatile but could not shoot conistnetly or go "right". Freaking gortat drew two charges on Lamr in limited mins in the deciding game (5) of the 2009 NBA finals ...Fish though was uber clutch but I would say he Vuacic and Farmar were subpar ...but fish made as many clutch plays as Kobe or Pau.
That Laker team was very good well coached but the NBA was in a lax period. No way should that Lakers team win backtoback but Lebron wasnt ready, Spurs had to reforge themselves and Celts were falling apart. I give us credit for taking advantage but maybe only the repeat Rox as weak of a repat team in the modern NBA ... and I would still take them over us ... Kobe would of dominated those guards but Hakeem would of all over our bigs even Pau. But hey maybe or modern training diet and metrics would give us the edge over clutch city ...
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