Spurs: Predict how the Spurs will lose this year

[ambchang]

From what you said. It's right there. Why are you denying it?

Re-read what I wrote.

You brought it up in your first post then ignored it when I called you out on it. Now you're pretending you never said it. Since that first mention, you've only discussed the rest of the team. Odd, in that they all were covered under the "not great" umbrella while Tim was "great" and had great leadership skills". Google "confirmation bias".

I brought it up in the first post, so I have established what I said. Me talking about the rest of the team doesn't mean Duncan doesn't not deserve credit. Do you have some sort of mental issues or something? Me going out and say, "Man, the ribs at this restaurant is really great! I can see why so man people come here." Does NOT mean, "People only come to this restaurant for the ribs.", or "The ribs are fantastic at the restaurant, but everything else sucks", or "The ribs are the only reason for the existence of this restaurant."

That's because you're a ing idiot.

Because I fully understand that the game is more about matchups than seeing the future.

Now you're toning it down to "deserves credit" from being the take away from the win. You know, the Bulls were not that great of a team, the fact that they won just shows how great MJ was. What? I was giving them all credit! I didn't say ONLY MJ.

The Bulls really weren't that great of a team, especially if you take away Jordan. They were a WCSF team in a weak Eastern Conference without him. Does that mean Phil Jackson, Jerry Krause and Pippen doesn't deserve credit if they win? No. Just try to get that concept through your fat hands.

[Buddy Mignon]

The Warriors were fortunate to beat teams with injured PG's. One and done for those jokers.

[DMC]

Re-read what I wrote.



I brought it up in the first post, so I have established what I said. Me talking about the rest of the team doesn't mean Duncan doesn't not deserve credit. Do you have some sort of mental issues or something? Me going out and say, "Man, the ribs at this restaurant is really great! I can see why so man people come here." Does NOT mean, "People only come to this restaurant for the ribs.", or "The ribs are fantastic at the restaurant, but everything else sucks", or "The ribs are the only reason for the existence of this restaurant."



Because I fully understand that the game is more about matchups than seeing the future.



The Bulls really weren't that great of a team, especially if you take away Jordan. They were a WCSF team in a weak Eastern Conference without him. Does that mean Phil Jackson, Jerry Krause and Pippen doesn't deserve credit if they win? No. Just try to get that concept through your fat hands.

You're like the IRL version of cosmored.

[dbestpro]

I guarantee my prediction. The Spurs will not go undefeated.

[ambchang]

You're like the IRL version of cosmored.

You are like the fat hands version of a re .

[DMC]

You are like the fat hands version of a re .

You keep going back to that dry well don't you Corky.

[ambchang]

You keep going back to that dry well don't you Corky.

There's plenty of water where I'm going.

[DMC]

There's plenty of water where I'm going.

Only in your head, Downs boy.

[HemisfairArena]

The Warriors were fortunate to beat teams with injured PG's. One and done for those jokers.

Your team was unfortunate to have Kobrick for going on 4 straight years,,,

[ambchang]

Only in your head, Downs boy.

Also in you hands, fat hands.

[Fat Hands]

I keep getting pinged about someone using my name..whats going on here?

[Sean Cagney]

Injuries; not match-ups is the potential downfall; just like last season.

All really depends on how the new parts fit in. On paper they are better but chemistry? It could go downhill if they don't gel and we have seen this happen with teams before in any sport when signing a bunch of new parts. LA will be the key obviously and how he fits in, then you have the growth of Leonard and how much he can improve and be more consistent like he was the last 20 some odd games last year and the first four playoff games, we need that one more often. Also will Parker move faster than a slug this year?

[Spurtacular]

All really depends on how the new parts fit in. On paper they are better but chemistry? It could go downhill if they don't gel and we have seen this happen with teams before in any sport when signing a bunch of new parts. LA will be the key obviously and how he fits in, then you have the growth of Leonard and how much he can improve and be more consistent like he was the last 20 some odd games last year and the first four playoff games, we need that one more often. Also will Parker move faster than a slug this year?

Your chemistry point is not wrong; but I'm not that worried. When was the last time the Spurs had serious chemistry issues?

Pop has been loyal to Parker to a fault thus far. I'm interested to see if that changes at all this season.

[Sean Cagney]

Your chemistry point is not wrong; but I'm not that worried. When was the last time the Spurs had serious chemistry issues?

Pop has been loyal to Parker to a fault thus far. I'm interested to see if that changes at all this season.

Spurs never really had serious chemistry issues, the last I can think of was probably Rodman at the end before he got traded and they went to the WCF that year. That wasn't even that serious and Pop was not there yet so I doubt it happens if he is the coach. I agree.

[DMC]

When even your opponent can't dislike you, your team chemistry should be fine.

[SpurSwag]

If we lose it'll be because of Tony and Manu not being able to create for open shooters like in the past. Obviously we are going to have more post ups than we've seen in a long time for the spurs with Aldridge, Kawhi, and Timmy being our best 3 players, but we need Tony and Manu to still be able to drive to the rim and either finish or kick out to shooters on a consistent basis. I think if we get a healthy, explosive Tony we will ring, and if not it'll be a huge struggle unless Kawhi picks up Tony and Manu's playmaking responsibilities a bit.

[DMC]

If/When the Spurs lose, it will be because they got worse on defense. Two of their starters are old as , and LMA isn't a great defender. He can be better (maybe Thibs is doing that) but we relied on Danny and Kawhi last year while others who were instrumental in 2014 simply slacked off. There was no good play from anyone in the post season this year, everyone was mediocre and even Pop was mailing it in. Fouling Jordan up 13 in the 1st half was stupid as , but it happened and here we are.

[Killakobe81]

Warriors, Cavs and Clippers are all better talents on paper.

Houston and Spurs are on similar ground. So yes, the Spurs have to climb over 3 guys that are above them to win it all, likely having to go through all 3 in order to do so. I'd say that is against the odds.



I do. Cp3 deserved it in 08, MVPau deserves at least 1 of the 2 FMVPs.

This nicca AMB ACTUALLY posted this ...

[Killakobe81]

Yeah, I would say 2nd round is about where the Spurs will end up. Anything more than that is gravy.



I did? I said if they won it would be Tim carried them through with his leadership? How did you interpret that as a proud Amer



How did I ignore that? I brought it up in my first post. Tim's leadership deserves credit if the Spurs win the championship. Do you want me to write that in every single post?



I didn't expect CP3 to falter in the playoffs.



And? The Spurs really aren't that great of a team where they can just go into the season and expect a championship. If they win, Duncan's greatness and leadership abilities deserve credit. How is that me saying if the Spurs win it would be (solely) BECAUSE of Duncan's leadership?

Gotta give you props, here Amb good call!
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[Killakobe81]

I'm not so worried about Duncan even though he's old as . His offensive game has already fallen way off anyways, but unless he blows out a knee I'm confident he'll still be a strong interior defender, rebounder, and garbage guy at the rim. Parker is the huge question mark, his game has fallen off a cliff since 2012-13. He was still decent in 2013-14, though nowhere near the player he was from about 2006-13, but if the Spurs lose it will be because they got completely demolished at the PG position just like in the Clipper series last year. As a Spurs fan that's what makes me nervous this year, that 2015 Parker is just who Parker is now, when the West is loaded with really strong points like Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Conley, Lawson and then Irving would be waiting in a potential Finals matchup.

Bum with so much goods ...

[Killakobe81]

I actually see the Cavs having the same chances as the Spurs. The Warriors are really the favourites. Clippers are next.

Cavs and Spurs are probably after that, Rox is not likely because I see that team is deeply flawed, but I can see them being on the same level as the Spurs, OKC has a punchers chance if they are all healthy, but I am not counting on it.

I am still very high on the Memphis Grizzlies, and am unreasonably optimistic about the Bulls chances.

Example of so much fails ... from pre-season last year
MVPau had that nicca Amb blind ...
Clips
Rox
Grizz
Spurs = Cavs

This is a short post from Amb based on normal wpp (words per post) and his was so wrong. Good thing you dont gamble, friend. I will say this you were right about your team ...but for some reason 67 wins changed your mind. I dont think your playoff predictions were anything like this ...

[Killakobe81]

Why is it an either or? You are basing this on the assumption that Duncan's leadership is the only factor that matters.

It's not.



It's not a great team. So if they win, they deserve credit for going above expectations. What part of that do you not understand.

It's like saying, if you can get your head out of your ass, you deserve credit, because it's something that is not expected of you. But if you keep your head in your ass, you don't deserve blame, because it's something expected of you.



You saw your logic where in my original post? Where did I say if the Spurs win it would have been because of Duncan?

DMC really got in this dude's head this was a great thread ...

[ambchang]

This nicca AMB ACTUALLY posted this ...

Gotta give you props, here Amb good call!
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Example of so much fails ... from pre-season last year
MVPau had that nicca Amb blind ...
Clips
Rox
Grizz
Spurs = Cavs

This is a short post from Amb based on normal wpp (words per post) and his was so wrong. Good thing you dont gamble, friend. I will say this you were right about your team ...but for some reason 67 wins changed your mind. I dont think your playoff predictions were anything like this ...

More right than wont. cavs going deeper doesn't mean they have a better chance they just played in the east.