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    WND EXCLUSIVE

    POLL: MOST U.S. MUSLIMS WOULD TRADE CONS UTION FOR SHARIAH

    'Quran should be highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion'

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    Ben Carson’s comment that he would not support a Shariah-compliant Muslim for president because Islamic law is incompatible with the U.S. Cons ution led to the former brain surgeon’s roasting among media talkers and politicians of all stripes.
    He has been excoriated as “anti-Muslim,” “bigoted,” even “anti-American” and unfit for office.
    “For any candidate to suggest that someone should not be elected president because of what he or she may believe is nothing short of religious bigotry,” said Rep. Andre Carson, D-Ind., one of two Muslim congressmen.
    But what do American Muslims believe?
    The Council on America-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, which has been most vocal in its calls for Carson’s withdrawal from the GOP presidential race, claims to speak for American Muslims. The organization has a long history of ties to terrorists, as do ented by WND’s “Rogues gallery of terror-tied leaders,” but it is still treated by most U.S. media as the Muslim equivalent of the American Civil Liberties Union.
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    Omar Ahmad, founder and former chairman of CAIR
    According to a local newspaper report, Omar Ahmad, a founder of CAIR, told a conference hall packed with California Muslims in July 1998 that Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant.
    The reporter paraphrased Ahmad saying, “The Quran … should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.”



    When CAIR issued a statement in 2003 denying Ahmad made the remarks and claiming the paper had issued a retraction, WND News Editor Art Moore talked to the reporter and two of her editors and found that they stood by the story. Moore then spoke with CAIR national spokesman Ibrahim Hooper, who repeated the claim that the paper had issued a retraction. When Moore informed Hooper that the reporter and the editors stood by the story, the CAIR communications director ended the call. But he called back a few minutes later saying he wanted to amend CAIR’s statement to say that the Muslim organization was seeking a retraction. Three years later, however, when the issue came up again, CAIR still had not contacted the paper.
    On April 4, 1993, Hooper told a reporter for the Minneapolis Star-Tribune: “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future.”
    Hooper appeared on Michael Medved’s radio show in October 2003 and stated: “If Muslims ever become a majority in the United States, it would be safe to assume that they would want to replace the U.S. Cons ution with Islamic law, as most Muslims believe that God’s law is superior to man-made law.”
    In May 2015, WND reported that an informal survey of Somali-American Muslims on the streets of Minneapolis showed widespread support for Islamic law as preferable to U.S. law.




    Other CAIR leaders also "express their contempt for the United States," reports Middle East scholar Daniel Pipes.
    Ihsan Bagby of CAIR's Washington office has said that Muslims "can never be full citizens of this country," referring to the United States, "because there is no way we can be fully committed to the ins utions and ideologies of this country," Pipes reported in his 2006 article, "CAIR Islamists Fooling the Government."
    Pipes also noted that Parvez Ahmed, who followed Ahmad as CAIR chairman, touted the virtues of Islamic democracy in 2004 by portraying the Afghan cons utional process as superior to the U.S. Cons ution. Ahmed was quoted in the Orlando Sentinel as saying:
    "The new Afghan cons ution shows that the cons ution of a Muslim nation can be democratic and yet not contradict the essence of Islam. During my meeting with a high-ranking Afghan delegation during their recent visit to the United States, I was told that the Afghan cons utional convention included Hindu delegates despite Hindus accounting for only 1 percent of the population. Contrast this with our own cons utional convention that excluded women and blacks."
    51 percent of U.S. Muslims prefer Shariah

    There are now an estimated 3 million Muslims residing in the United States as citizens or with permanent legal status, and more than 250,000 new Muslim residents enter the U.S. per year as refugees, on work visas and student-based visas, according to the Center for Immigration Studies.
    A poll commissioned in May 2015 by the Center for Security Policy showed that 51 percent of American Muslims preferred that they should have their own Shariah courts outside of the legal system ruled by the U.S. Cons ution. And nearly a quarter believed the use of violent jihad was justified in establishing Shariah.
    "That would translate into roughly 300,000 Muslims living in the United States who believe that Shariah is 'The Muslim God Allah's law that Muslims must follow and impose worldwide by Jihad,'" writes Frank Gaffney Jr., president of the Center for Security Policy.
    SPLC says 'no worries'
    Along with CAIR is another organization, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which makes great strides to assure the American people that Islamic law, or Shariah, is not something they should be concerned about.
    In its online do ent led "Teaching Tolerance: What is the Truth About American Muslims," the SPLC says Shariah is essentially no different than any other religious code of conduct and compares it to Judaism and Christianity.
    SPLC asks: "Do American Muslims want to replace the U.S. Cons ution with Sharia?" And then provides the following answer:
    "No. American Muslims overwhelmingly support the U.S. Cons ution and do not seek to replace it with Sharia or Islamic law. The vast majority of American Muslims understand Sharia as a personal, religious obligation governing the practice of their faith, not as something American governments should enforce."
    The American Catholic magazine delved into the issue in 2010 when it asked, "Is Sharia compatible with the U.S. Cons ution?"
    "The simple answer is of course, 'no,'" the magazine stated and then listed 13 reasons why.
    Number 4 on the list stated: "Instead of precedents and codes, Sharia relies on medieval jurist’s manuals and collections of non-binding legal opinions, or fatwas, issued by religious scholars (ulama, particularly a mufti); these can be made binding for a particular case at the discretion of a judge."
    What do Muslim scholars say about 'democracy'?
    Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a Sunni Muslim cleric and head of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, is quoted in "The Islamization of the West" by Patrick Sookhdeo, as saying:
    "Islam entered Europe twice and left it. ... Perhaps the next conquest, Allah willing, will be by means of preaching and ideology. The conquest need not necessarily be by the sword. ... Perhaps we will conquer these lands without armies. We want an army of preachers and teachers who will present Islam in all languages and in all dialects."
    Well-known British Islamist Anjem Choudary spoke similarly in a February 2010 interview with Iran's Press TV when he stated:
    "Our objectives are to invite the societies in which we live to think about Islam as an alternative way of life ... and ultimately, as well, to establish the Shariah on state level."
    William Wagner, writing for the Family Research Council, addressed the issue now magnified by Carson in his article, "Islam, Shariah Law, and the American Cons ution."
    "With the patient planting of new enclaves, the process of establishing the parallel society and political system has begun. Those behind this process seem willing to master an understanding of the occupied country's government and legal system, systematically dismantling it while building the framework for an Islamic theocracy as its replacement. Such a replacement, when complete, dogmatically declares a different kind of absolute than the self-evident Truths, which undergird the American Cons ution."


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    And most U.S. evangelical christians would throw the cons ution right out the window in favor of some sort of biblical themed law.

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    And most U.S. evangelical christians would throw the cons ution right out the window in favor of some sort of biblical themed law.
    the US cons ution is sort of biblical themed whether you like it or not. we are governed by judeo christian principles.

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    the US cons ution is sort of biblical themed whether you like it or not. we are governed by judeo christian principles.
    That's true, it is "sort of". However, they would take it to an extreme without exceptions. Abortions, for instance, would be cons utionally forbidden. Gays? Well they would be out of luck when it comes to just about everything. Oh, and don't work on a Sunday or death for you!

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    And most U.S. evangelical christians would throw the cons ution right out the window in favor of some sort of biblical themed law.
    Good point. Not to mention they would have started world war 3 already crusading in the ME.

    You just can't put in power a religion that looks forward to armagedon for the coming of the lord

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    That's true, it is "sort of". However, they would take it to an extreme without exceptions. Abortions, for instance, would be cons utionally forbidden. Gays? Well they would be out of luck when it comes to just about everything. Oh, and don't work on a Sunday or death for you!
    ive been to church and i don't know anyone supporting that

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    ive been to church and i don't know anyone supporting that
    Rofl

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    the fact is christianity has dominated the americas and europe and none of these horror stories have ever happened. anywhere Christianity is strong there is peace and prosperity. now look at where islam dominates and we don't even need to elaborate further. where would you choose to live? point made

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    the fact is christianity has dominated the americas and europe and none of these horror stories have ever happened. anywhere Christianity is strong there is peace and prosperity. now look at where islam dominates and we don't even need to elaborate further. where would you choose to live? point made
    The natives and slaves in the Americas kind of destroy your narrative.

    I'll agree that fundamentalist Muslims are behind the times, but so are pretty much any fundamentalists.

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    the fact is christianity has dominated the americas and europe and none of these horror stories have ever happened. anywhere Christianity is strong there is peace and prosperity. now look at where islam dominates and we don't even need to elaborate further. where would you choose to live? point made
    Your fact finding skills really blow

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    lol UTA. Another self-selecting poll.


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    You do know what that is, right? I have to ask since you seem to use them so often.

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    Go find me a scientific poll on the subject and we will use that one

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    Your fact finding skills really blow
    Make sure you wear your helmet and bib when posting re

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    Go find me a scientific poll on the subject and we will use that one
    Not my job. I don't start ed up threads based on data.

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    Make sure you wear your helmet and bib when posting re
    re jab

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    the fact is christianity has dominated the americas and europe and none of these horror stories have ever happened. anywhere Christianity is strong there is peace and prosperity.
    never ever? Are we also ignoring the crucades now too?

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    Chicken McCuckets

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    never ever? Are we also ignoring the crucades now too?
    Crusades were justified and in response to repeated Muslim attempt to conquer Europe

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    re babbling

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    Crusades were justified and in response to repeated Muslim attempt to conquer Europe
    There was plenty of violence against Jews too... including in Germany of all places.

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    the fact is christianity has dominated the americas and europe and none of these horror stories have ever happened. anywhere Christianity is strong there is peace and prosperity.
    I'm not even going to mention the Holocaust. Tee-hee.

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    I'm not even going to mention the Holocaust. Tee-hee.
    Holocaust didn't happen the way you think it did

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