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    So you guys think he's gonna play rotation minutes or what
    Some have made the case for Jimmer taking the Beli minutes. But I don't know about that if KA/Simmons come on strong. If they struggle, then maybe.

    He'll get some minutes backing up Green at times. And I think he'll get significant minutes whenever Parker/Ginobili are out.

    Whether Jimmer gets regular rotation minutes, most would say no. I would say no, too (at least initially). I would like to see a natural progression though. And the fun of Jimmer is that he can have a big game anytime.
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    Jimmer just got Rasualed...
    Rasual sucks; and you know it.
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    I like Butler a lot over Jimmer unless Simmons' playmaking was just a product of playing against weaker compe ion. Had the Spurs managed to get Fredette to sign a two-year deal, I'd give him the edge. But Butler likely helps the team more as a 12th or 15th man than Jimmer would as a wing. And Simmons' size, athleticism and defensive potential put him above Jimmer as a combo-guard/fifth PG.
    Rasual's washed up. Why do you think he's signing so late to a camp deal on a stacked team? He's just trying to stay in shape / audition for other teams.
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    Rasual's washed up. Why do you think he's signing so late to a camp deal on a stacked team? He's just trying to stay in shape / audition for other teams.
    He's less washed up than Jimmer.
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    He's less washed up than Jimmer.
    You're just showing how glaring your bias against Jimmer is.

    Rasual Butler is thirty f'ing six years old. He does one thing: he stands in a corner and shoots threes. You really think that's gonna be enough to displace Jimmer?
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    You're just showing how glaring your bias against Jimmer is.

    Rasual Butler is thirty f'ing six years old. He does one thing: he stands in a corner and shoots threes. You really think that's gonna be enough to displace Jimmer?
    First, that's better than Jimmer can do with that release of his. Second, Butler's actually pretty damned athletic for his age. The only thing Jimmer has over Butler is some playmaking, and that's not really that unique, as all guards besides Green are decent or better in that regard.
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    First, that's better than Jimmer can do with that release of his. Second, Butler's actually pretty damned athletic for his age. The only thing Jimmer has over Butler is some playmaking, and that's not really that unique, as all guards besides Green are decent or better in that regard.
    Jimmer spaces the floor better than Rasual. Teams have to stick to Jimmer. The release is trumped up nonsense too. Jimmer averaged seven three attempts per 36 his rookie year on a team that liked to ice him out. So, no.
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    Jimmer spaces the floor better than Rasual. Teams have to stick to Jimmer. The release is trumped up nonsense too. Jimmer averaged seven three attempts per 36 his rookie year on a team that liked to ice him out. So, no.
    Cry me a river, bye .
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    Jimmer spaces the floor better than Rasual. Teams have to stick to Jimmer. The release is trumped up nonsense too. Jimmer averaged seven three attempts per 36 his rookie year on a team that liked to ice him out. So, no.
    It's been well established that you have no idea what spacing the floor is. It's certainly not chucking up threes. Anyway, the fact is that Jimmer has taken only 14 percent of his threes from the corner. That's a pathetically low number for a floor-spacer. It's not that threes from the wings don't count as spacing the floor -- indeed, it spaces the floor more to spot up away from the corner. It's that Jimmer can't get open on those shorter threes. That he can't shoot from the corner is worse than if he couldn't shoot from anywhere else, as the corner three is an easier pass and is open more often on plays.

    Anyway, even if we were to assert that three-point attempts = spacing, your claim that Jimmer is somehow a much more prolific gunner than Butler is silly. Jimmer, at his best, for 6.9 threes per 36. Last year, Butler shot 5.6 threes. Jimmer had 14.7 ppg to Butler's 13.9. Jimmer's point's came with a poor 49.5 TS%, while Butler's came on a 53.1 TS%. It's pretty obvious Butler's is a better three-point shooter than Fredette if you on Jimmer's peak year against Butler's most recent.

    It's just pathetic that you can't see numbers in front of your face. Jimmer hasn't been a good NBA player. He was frozen out of anything. He just sucks. Deal with it. He has to deal with it too, as he's not going to be long for the league if he can't get better than he has been.
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    It's been well established that you have no idea what spacing the floor is.
    Calm down.
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    Anyway, the fact is that Jimmer has taken only 14 percent of his threes from the corner.
    OR, it shows that he's played on selfish teams that don't make the extra pass; something I've repeatedly stated.

    Also, spacing the floor doesn't always just mean standing a corner.
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    He was (not) frozen out of anything. He just sucks. Deal with it. He has to deal with it too, as he's not going to be long for the league if he can't get better than he has been.
    Don't act like you know what you're talking about. I followed him; you didn't.
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    I am calm. I was merely stating a fact.

    OR, it shows that he's played on selfish teams that don't make the extra pass; something I've repeatedly stated.
    Yeah, no. He was assisted on 62 percent of his threes. That is indeed a stupidly no number (which if you watch any video of him, you understand that it's because he can't get his shot off if he spots up). But it's a high enough number to show that his teammates do give him the ball. He just has no hope of shooting of the catch from the corner unless he's WIDE OPEN, like his-man-fell-down open.
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    Lmao he refutes your entire shtick and you go calm down. You can't walk away from this thread if jimmer gets cut. You must own it
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    Don't act like you know what you're talking about. I followed him; you didn't.
    Hence my conclusion that you don't actually know what you're talking about. You watched him, and you're still trying to say he spaced. the floor. It'd be like you trying to tell us the sun rotates around the Earth and that you know that because you've looked at the sun every day of your life.
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    I am calm. I was merely stating a fact.



    Yeah, no. He was assisted on 62 percent of his threes. That is indeed a stupidly no number (which if you watch any video of him, you understand that it's because he can't get his shot off if he spots up). But it's a high enough number to show that his teammates do give him the ball. He just has no hope of shooting of the catch from the corner unless he's WIDE OPEN, like his-man-fell-down open.
    Your analsysis is based upon assumptions. Mine is based upon observations.
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    Hence my conclusion that you don't actually know what you're talking about. You watched him, and you're still trying to say he spaced. the floor. It'd be like you trying to tell us the sun rotates around the Earth and that you know that because you've looked at the sun every day of your life.
    Jimmer spaces the floor. Only a moron would argue otherwise.
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    Your analsysis is based upon assumptions. Mine is based upon observations.
    Jimmer spaces the floor. Only a moron would argue otherwise.
    I don't think I've ever seen a poster fall as steeply has you have in this thread. You're taking out loans in order to stay in on this "Jimmer doesn't suck" position. You've offered no points and clearly don't even know what points you'd need in the first place. But you have a wolf by the ears and can't back out. I get it. But that doesn't make it worth taking your arguments seriously anymore.
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    I don't think I've ever seen a poster fall as steeply has you have in this thread. You're taking out loans in order to stay in on this "Jimmer doesn't suck" position. You've offered no points and clearly don't even know what points you'd need in the first place. But you have a wolf by the ears and can't back out. I get it. But that doesn't make it worth taking your arguments seriously anymore.
    I don't think you have to go back all that many posts (to the question of whether Jimmer will be a rotation player) to see how tempered my analysis is. One doesn't have to be a Jimmer fan to get that the the dude spreads the floor. And only a hater would even dare to spout that nonsense. I'm not sure you're even taking yourself "seriously" at this point.
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    I don't think you have to go back all that many posts (to the question of whether Jimmer will be a rotation player) to see how tempered my analysis is. One doesn't have to be a Jimmer fan to get that the the dude spreads the floor. And only a hater would even dare to spout that nonsense. I'm not sure you're even taking yourself "seriously" at this point.
    Yeah, you see, you're totally just s ing at this point. There is no evidence out there that supports your claim, but you have too much e-cred or whatever to lose for you to admit that. Instead, you're on "Of course I'm right." And it's just silly. If I were you, I'd lie low for a while or make a new handle or something. This thread as completely devoured you.
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    Yeah, you see, you're totally just s ing at this point. There is no evidence out there that supports your claim, but you have too much e-cred or whatever to lose for you to admit that. Instead, you're on "Of course I'm right." And it's just silly. If I were you, I'd lie low for a while or make a new handle or something. This thread as completely devoured you.
    Jimmer has led the league in deep three shooting; he's been in the upper perecentiles in pick n' roll offense; and you're trying to make a claim that he doesn't spread the floor based upon silly assumptions that you invented today. I guess I shouldn't have "s ed" your faux point and pointed out these glaring realities; how bad of me!
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    Jimmer spaces the floor poorly. Only a mormon would argue otherwise.
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    Jimmer has led the league in deep three shooting; he's been in the upper perecentiles in pick n' roll offense; and you're trying to make a claim that he doesn't spread the floor based upon silly assumptions that you invented today. I guess I shouldn't have "s ed" your faux point and pointed out these glaring realities; how bad of me!
    Just stop. You've been given the McGrady on Bradley treatment many times over.
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    Jimmer has led the league in deep three shooting;
    That's not a good thing.

    he's been in the upper perecentiles in pick n' roll offense
    Nothing to do with spacing the floor, but I agree he's better off the dribble than some would imply.

    you're trying to make a claim that he doesn't spread the floor based upon silly assumptions that you invented today
    Lol at claming I invented Jimmer not taking corner threes or him having a poor offensive rating, or any of the other metrics.

    I guess I shouldn't have "s ed" your faux point and pointed out these glaring realities
    I mean, it wouldn't make you understand what it means to space the floor, that's for sure.

    how bad of me!
    More like sad of you at this point.
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    That's not a good thing.


    Exept that it is. The black line is all threes; and the purple line is threes from 25 to 29 feet. You'll notice the 53.7 percent. But you go ahead and keep telling me how Jimmer can't space the floor.
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