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    I do get a kick out of the..."oh my God this guy has seen some football".....we see here, hhahaha!!!!!!!!!!

    It's ing funny watching how they act.
    Who are you conversing with? Watching football and understanding are two completely different beasts. So UTs Gray. Analysis? What do you think about his current state?

    And are the hahahaa!!!!!s maniacal, or just standard? Crazy mofo....
    Christ...

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    First of all stupid if I'm still playing the ATS aspect of things after all these years don't you think it's because I'm winning $$$$$? You think I'd still be playing if I were losing?


    And no it's not a 50/50 deal at all, how dumb can you be? Tell me stupid how many road games do losing teams cover vs winning teams, well? Tell me idiot how do home teams do coming out of a bye week? Damn you're dumb.


    Won over 2000 do ented on the NFL forum in 2014, am plus over 800 right now.
    Your 2014 performance is NOT statistically significant. A monkey throwing darts could have done this. Do you get this?
    So, your other years? I don't believe old men who rape children and claim to be Prognosticators. Show me the entirety of your plays.

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    Who are you conversing with? Watching football and understanding are two completely different beasts. So UTs Gray. Analysis? What do you think about his current state?

    And are the hahahaa!!!!!s maniacal, or just standard? Crazy mofo....
    Christ...

    I'm OBVIOUSLY talking to anyone reading this ya dumb .

    Stupid I played 20 years of organized football ok? And stop acting as if it's some big complex ordeal, ok?

    The key to winning at any level is protect the football, you can run and stuff the run, ok stupid?

    It's Sunday ya little , a little early to be concerning myself with a Texas running back who played yesterday, ok? Now if want my opinion about how he stacks up vs the great Texas backs like Campbell, Williams, that's different.

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    Your 2014 performance is NOT statistically significant. A monkey throwing darts could have done this. Do you get this?
    So, your other years? I don't believe old men who rape children and claim to be Prognosticators. Show me the entirety of your plays.

    I can't believe anyone is dumb enought to think they could win any amount of $$$ vs ATS throwing darts. You really this stupid?

    And, are you dumb enought to really think any bar is hiring little kids to hustle drinks, hahahaha!!!!!!!!! You really this ing stupid.

    Dude, you are a ing joke,ok? Look at how ya act, hahahaha!!!!!!!! So afraid somebody else can school your ass ya look comical about it.

    Ok ya dumb prove your point, pick any football games ATS for a month and prove your point, ok got?


    Do you work at ...DUH?

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    How many total idiots post here anyway? This freak here, hahaha!!!!!!!

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    I'm OBVIOUSLY talking to anyone reading this ya dumb .

    Stupid I played 20 years of organized football ok? And stop acting as if it's some big complex ordeal, ok?

    The key to winning at any level is protect the football, you can run and stuff the run, ok stupid?

    It's Sunday ya little , a little early to be concerning myself with a Texas running back who played yesterday, ok? Now if want my opinion about how he stacks up vs the great Texas backs like Campbell, Williams, that's different.
    You follow it all. Give it to me. Tell me what you think about this highly recruited back.

    Well , you are able to compare him to Heisman Trophy winners? Damn you are soooo good. Stop the nonsense. You get track speed confused with football speed all the time. You think people use chalk on synthetic tracks. You think evolution is a giant hoax.

    Seriously...

    So the key to winning is to protect the football? It's that simple. So QB kneel on every offensive play and punt? Are you Fckn crazy? The key to winning is an offense that can move the ball in a variety of ways without undertaking unnecessary risks. This is a very difficult thing to do which is why Aaron Rogers and Tom Brady are amazing for the positions they play. And guys like Jamal Charles, especially after last week, are high risk high reward guys. This is very difficult. This is not in any way easy on the pro level ya dumb ..

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    You follow it all. Give it to me. Tell me what you think about this highly recruited back.

    Well , you are able to compare him to Heisman Trophy winners? Damn you are soooo good. Stop the nonsense. You get track speed confused with football speed all the time. You think people use chalk on synthetic tracks. You think evolution is a giant hoax.

    Seriously...

    So the key to winning is to protect the football? It's that simple. So QB kneel on every offensive play and punt? Are you Fckn crazy? The key to winning is an offense that can move the ball in a variety of ways without undertaking unnecessary risks. This is a very difficult thing to do which is why Aaron Rogers and Tom Brady are amazing for the positions they play. And guys like Jamal Charles, especially after last week, are high risk high reward guys. This is very difficult. This is not in any way easy on the pro level ya dumb ..

    What are you re ed?

    OBVIOUSLY....ya dumb it's a combination of things with PROTECTING THE FOOTBALL at number one, ok stupid? Ask ayone, what loses most games, yep...TURNOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Wow, guy..?????

    Stop with this stupid track speed/football speed ok ya ignorant ? There really is no such thing ok idiot? If ya knew this stuff you'd know this.

    Ok ya dumb pick some ATS plays for me today, ok? Rememner it doesn't matter if ya follow pro football or not, right? Just toss some darts and prove your point, ok?

    Jonathan Gray can't stay healthy enought to get a good read on him, as you know. So why the stupid question?


    Next week I'll give ya five NCAA plays to toss darts at, prove yourself ok got?

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    What are you re ed?

    OBVIOUSLY....ya dumb it's a combination of things with PROTECTING THE FOOTBALL at number one, ok stupid? Ask ayone, what loses most games, yep...TURNOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Wow, guy..?????

    Stop with this stupid track speed/football speed ok ya ignorant ? There really is no such thing ok idiot? If ya knew this stuff you'd know this.

    Ok ya dumb picks some ATS play for me today, ok? Rememner it doesn't matter if ya follow pro football or not, right? Just toss some darts and prove your point, ok?

    Jonathan Gray can't stay healthy enought to get a good read on him, as you know. So why the stupid question?
    Then why is Gray playing?

    You stupid clown you must take risks on offense. Teams that can take the risk out of an offense and still move the ball without telegraphing everything have a luxury. And turnovers are ALWAYS SKEWED ON THE SIDE OF THE WINNING TEAM BECAUSE TEAMS THAT ARE LOSING MUST TAKE RISKS TO CATCH UP! Are you this stupid? When do most turnovers occur in a game and by what team. 4th Qrt. team behind. Jesus...

    You are a Fckn moron. You completely don't get how to look at a stat as simple as turnovers. You have some extraordinarily large cohones to be willing to make such a stupid error. Or, you are just oblivious to your own stupidity.

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    What are you re ed?





    Stop with this stupid track speed/football speed ok ya ignorant ? There really is no such thing ok idiot? If ya knew this stuff you'd know this.
    t?
    So football is run in straight lines on a synthetic rubber track.

    And track is run in pads and helmet carrying a ball.

    And you see no difference.

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    Then why is Gray playing?

    You stupid clown you must take risks on offense. Teams that can take the risk out of an offense and still move the ball without telegraphing everything have a luxury. And turnovers are ALWAYS SKEWED ON THE SIDE OF THE WINNING TEAM BECAUSE TEAMS THAT ARE LOSING MUST TAKE RISKS TO CATCH UP! Are you this stupid? When do most turnovers occur in a game and by what team. 4th Qrt. team behind. Jesus...

    You are a Fckn moron. You completely don't get how to look at a stat as simple as turnovers. You have some extraordinarily large cohones to be willing to make such a stupid error. Or, you are just oblivious to your own stupidity.
    Wow, like talking to some re ed person.

    Gray is playing because.....HE'S FINALLY HEALTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dude, do you know anything at all about this stuff? no it's not about offense first, ok dummy? You better win the TO battle and play some defense.

    Stupid in 2014 the number one offense in the NFL were the Saints ok idiot? They were - 13 in turnovers and had the number 31 ranked defense now think ya dumb , ok?

    Wow, is this punk stupid or what?


    Ok, gotta go watch some NFL, I bet when I return this idiot is still an idiot.


    Stupid you know anything at all about those Charger teams with Fouts/Muncie/Winslow/Joiner and Jefferson?


    Wow~

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    Wow, like talking to some re ed person.

    Gray is playing because.....HE'S FINALLY HEALTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dude, do you know anything at all about this stuff? no it's not about offense firs, ok dummy? You better win the TO battle and play some defense.

    Stupud in 2014 the number one offense in the NFL were the Saints ok idiot? They were - 13 in turnovers and had the number 31 ranked defense now think ya dumb , ok?

    Wow, is this punk stupid or what?


    Ok, gotta go watch some NFL, I bet when I return this idiot is still an idiot.
    What about his backups that are quite possible better than him now?

    The Saint example has NOTHING to do with what I stated dumb .

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    All that typing and the fat ol still hasn't answered the original question

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    What about his backups that are quite possible better than him now?

    The Saint example has NOTHING to do with what I stated dumb .
    Dumb as a rock aren't ya amigo?


    The Saints example showed you how a great offense means little if you're losing the turnover battle and can't stop anyone. Flew right over your pin head didn't it dummy?

    Now tell me ya dumb don't you think the coachs know what back gives them the best chance to win, well?

    Idiots and the internet, wow!

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    Imagine this as far as scoring goes.

    Team scores over 500 points in 11 games giving up...0.

    Then the following season they score over 600 points giving up...12.

    Then the next season they score over 500 points giving up...6

    The next two seasons they score over 1000 points giving up...22.

    They went 56-1, losing that game 2-0.



    Then there was that team that didn't allow an opponet past the 50 yard line for three seasons in a row.



    Imagine a collerge team where 53 players ended up signing pro contracts.
    I can't imagine any collerge team.

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    Dumb as a rock aren't ya amigo?


    The Saints example showed you how a great offense means little if you're losing the turnover battle and can't stop anyone. Flew right over your pin head didn't it dummy?

    Now tell me ya dumb don't you think the coachs know what back gives them the best chance to win, well?

    Idiots and the internet, wow!
    I will say it once again. If you look overall stats, teams that turn the ball over more often are already BEHIND AND THEREFORE TAKING BIGGER RISKS. The most turnovers occur by teams that are already LOSING in the FOURTH quarter.

    Do you understand the difference between your contention and the stat I have given you? You and your old cliches you hear and regurgitate. Think for Gods sake. Everyone understands that turning the ball over is not good. But it is often revealing to note why and when MOST turnovers occur.

    If it was as simple as you state teams would run QB kneels and punt hoping for a turnover.
    Last edited by pgardn; 09-27-2015 at 08:24 PM.

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    And I think Gray is showing little acceleration and not much ability right now. There are kids behind him who are better runners right now. But our offensive line is terrible and Gray can block and catch swing passes. So he plays.

    So you watch everything and know everything?

    I dont think so.

    So, the answer to Blake's question? Start at 1970.

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    I will say it once again. If you look overall stats, teams that turn the ball over more often are already BEHIND AND THEREFORE TAKING BIGGER RISKS. The most turnovers occur by teams that are already LOSING in the FOURTH quarter.

    Do you understand the difference between your contention and the stat I have given you? You and your old cliches you hear and regurgitate. Think for Gods sake. Everyone understands that turning the ball over is not good. But it is often revealing to note why and when MOST turnovers occur.

    If it was as simple as you state teams would run QB kneels and punt hoping for a turnover.
    Wow!

    Little man are you really this far gone? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHY/WHEN YA LOSE THE BALL....ok dummy?

    Let that sink in stupid.


    The bottom line in football at all levels is don't lose the ball, while you are in third and short due to a stud running game and they are in third and long because they can't run, you got that? Think just a little bit ok guy? What happens in obvious passing situations vs third and short where it's run or pass......well?

    Like talking to a little kid.

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    And I think Gray is showing little acceleration and not much ability right now. There are kids behind him who are better runners right now. But our offensive line is terrible and Gray can block and catch swing passes. So he plays.

    So you watch everything and know everything?

    I dont think so.

    So, the answer to Blake's question? Start at 1970.
    Blake!

    What I can do is tell you who all the great Texas backs were going back as far as Texas football goes. Am I real concerned over why Gray is starting, why would I be? Can you talk Ernie Koy? See how it goes?

    I can talk Texas Southern, Texas A&I, Abilene Christian, North Texas, West Texas A&M, UTSA, Praire View, can you?

    Talk to me about Warren NcVea.

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    Blake!

    What I can do is tell you who all the great Texas backs were going back as far as Texas football goes.
    You're in my thread and nobody is asking you to talk Texas backs, fat ass.

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    Wow!

    Little man are you really this far gone? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHY/WHEN YA LOSE THE BALL....ok dummy?

    Let that sink in stupid.


    .
    You old dumb .

    An example from yesterday. Dallas v. Atlanta

    One looks at the turnovers and sees that Dallas had one BIG turnover to Atlanta's zero. Atlanta wins.

    Your conclusion would be turnover battle determined the outcome. Which of course would be entirely WRONG. Atlanta had zero turnovers in the first half and were getting mauled. They could not stop a simple Dallas game plan that involved low risk running plays and play action to suit Weeden. And it worked beautifully. Dallas was running roughshod 28-14 half. Atlanta makes defensive adjustments at half, stops Dallas. Their offense tears up the Cowboys with time controlled running and passing. Dallas does not score again. Game over

    Your conclusion. The Weeden interception was the difference in the game, Dallas lost the turnover battle.

    And you would be COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY WRONG.

    Now answer the question Mr. History.

    I raise your Ernie Coy with one Chris Gilbert.

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    So, the answer to Blake's question? Start at 1970.
    Good luck with that. The self-proclaimed track expert couldn't even answer a track question from me, a guy that could give two s about track.

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    The old fat got ting up yet another thread, per the usual.

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    The old fat got ting up yet another thread, per the usual.
    To be fair....

    This thread was dedicated to him.

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    To be fair....

    This thread was dedicated to him.
    True. In a way.

    If the old fart would just stick with what he knows.
    Its on the table for him, but a simple "I don't know", would apparently release the full blown Aspergers dwelling within.

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    True. In a way.
    No "In a way" needed.

    It's not a coincidence that he very first post ITT mentioned Avante by name...

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