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    This is what happens when you keep a lion for a pet...


    He looked gay. Lion was just doing the Lords work.

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    people say other dogs are as vicious as pit bulls but when you see dog fights what kind
    of dog is in there fighting......Yes.......if the military needed guard dogs why don't they
    use pit bulls?

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    But, but, but...It is how you raise them...
    The lady ordered the dogs to attack and they did so yeah in this case it is literally how they were raised.

    From the pics in this article they look like Dogo's not pit bulls to me

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2358056

    The dogs have attacked people before and the chick has been arrested 37 times on drug charges.

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    you can't negate DNA and generations of breeding as attackers.
    When they were being bred as fighting dogs any dog that bit it's handler was killed removing that trait from the bloodline, terrible trait to have when you are in the ring getting the dogs off each other. The notion of them attacking humans because of their DNA is flat out wrong. Attacking other animals because of DNA sure, but humans no. There is a reason why the APBT scores so high on temperament testing.

    http://atts.org/breed-statistics/statistics-page1/

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    The thing about that breed is that when they DO attack, they are ing relentless.

    Sorry, but I don't trust them, tbh. If I knew anyone who owned one and they said, "Don't worry -- he doesn't bite.", I'd be like " that -- I ain't taking any chances.". And I wouldn't hang out at their house.
    Looks like we'll never have a beer together

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    people say other dogs are as vicious as pit bulls but when you see dog fights what kind
    of dog is in there fighting......Yes.......if the military needed guard dogs why don't they
    use pit bulls?
    My pits are terrible guard dogs. Someone could break into my house while I was out and they'd follow him around trying to get him to toss a toy.

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    The lady ordered the dogs to attack and they did so yeah in this case it is literally how they were raised.

    From the pics in this article they look like Dogo's not pit bulls to me

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2358056

    The dogs have attacked people before and the chick has been arrested 37 times on drug charges.
    Good call on them possibly being Dogo's. Look too tall to be APBT.

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    My pits are terrible guard dogs. Someone could break into my house while I was out and they'd follow him around trying to get him to toss a toy.
    my dogs will go crazy at someone standing outside our fence. they seem like they are crazy vicious and ready to rip someone to shreds. but if that same person broke in to the house and then went out the back door, they'd be jumping on him (or her) wanting him to play.

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    this just tells me you haven't been around big breeds of dogs and just watch fear-mongering news
    tells me you'e full of . Genetics dominates "culture".

    btw, it took a Russian guy 60 generations of wolf breeding to finally get generation of domesticated wolves, suitable as pets.

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    tells me you'e full of . Genetics dominates "culture".

    btw, it took a Russian guy 60 generations of wolf breeding to finally get generation of domesticated wolves, suitable as pets.
    Cool. And today, pittbulls are domesticated pets too. I'm sure if you raise them with violence, they'll be more prone to violence. Humans are domesticated too. And yet we have killers

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    Cool. And today, pittbulls are domesticated pets too. I'm sure if you raise them with violence, they'll be more prone to violence. Humans are domesticated too. And yet we have killers
    What if you didn't "raise them with violence", but you also don't have the knowledge of the Dog Whisperer to properly train and socialize the dog. How do those turn out?

    Some breeds just have a naturally mellow temperament, e.g. Golden Retriever, whereas other breeds are more naturally aggressive.

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    What if you didn't "raise them with violence", but you also don't have the knowledge of the Dog Whisperer to properly train and socialize the dog. How do those turn out?

    Some breeds just have a naturally mellow temperament, e.g. Golden Retriever, whereas other breeds are more naturally aggressive.
    Lol I've been around people who have raised pitbulls (one is a pit-lab) and neither of the owners are "dog whisperers" by any stretch. The pit-lab belongs to my gf and that was a rescue dog ffs... Who knows what that dog had gone through to end up there. But he's tame and just as playful as the two small dogs I have.

    I've seen plenty of small dogs more violent than pitbulls... It's just that their violence doesn't matter since they're largely harmless.

    Booboo is just scared of big dogs because he associated them with police.

    Fwiw golden receivers are extremely loyal and thus extremely defensive of their owners. So if not raised properly, they can be assholes too. The fear of pitbulls and other "scary" dogs is that in the event that they are violent, they have the most destructive ability. Pitbulls, rottweiler, doberman, etc. I've never really interacted with a rottweiler but doberman and pitbulls in my experience have been great dogs.
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    Pits make up 6% of dog population, but account for over 60% of fatal attacks. A lot of bad owners out there, I suppose.


    I don't think they bite more frequently, it's just when they do, they don't seem to let go.

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    What if you didn't "raise them with violence", but you also don't have the knowledge of the Dog Whisperer to properly train and socialize the dog. How do those turn out?

    Some breeds just have a naturally mellow temperament, e.g. Golden Retriever, whereas other breeds are more naturally aggressive.
    I already linked the temperament testing, Pitbulls consistently rank near the top, and they are tested more than any other breed. It isn't natural for a Pitbull to be aggressive towards humans, and the breeding during their dog fighting days sought to eliminate any aggression towards humans even further.

    An eye opening book is the one about Michael Vick and the fighting dogs that were rescued. Something like 28 out of the 31 trained fighting dogs were able to be rehabilitated and placed in homes, and many of them became therapy dogs. I've owned Pitbulls for over 10 years and have rescued them all. Best breed I've owned by far, but I do make sure to train well and socialize very young because they are powerful animals. I'd do the same with any large breed dog.

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    Pits make up 6% of dog population, but account for over 60% of fatal attacks. A lot of bad owners out there, I suppose.


    I don't think they bite more frequently, it's just when they do, they don't seem to let go.
    The breed is mis-identified more than any other, the statistics are bogus.

    http://www.pbrc.net/poppysplace/game...itbull_v4.html

    find the APBT

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    I already linked the temperament testing, Pitbulls consistently rank near the top, and they are tested more than any other breed. It isn't natural for a Pitbull to be aggressive towards humans, and the breeding during their dog fighting days sought to eliminate any aggression towards humans even further.

    An eye opening book is the one about Michael Vick and the fighting dogs that were rescued. Something like 28 out of the 31 trained fighting dogs were able to be rehabilitated and placed in homes, and many of them became therapy dogs. I've owned Pitbulls for over 10 years and have rescued them all. Best breed I've owned by far, but I do make sure to train well and socialize very young because they are powerful animals. I'd do the same with any large breed dog.
    So who wins 1 on 1...Pit or Bull Mastiff ?

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    I already linked the temperament testing, Pitbulls consistently rank near the top, and they are tested more than any other breed. It isn't natural for a Pitbull to be aggressive towards humans, and the breeding during their dog fighting days sought to eliminate any aggression towards humans even further.

    An eye opening book is the one about Michael Vick and the fighting dogs that were rescued. Something like 28 out of the 31 trained fighting dogs were able to be rehabilitated and placed in homes, and many of them became therapy dogs. I've owned Pitbulls for over 10 years and have rescued them all. Best breed I've owned by far, but I do make sure to train well and socialize very young because they are powerful animals. I'd do the same with any large breed dog.

    I have no doubt that yours are good.

    Why do you suppose there are so many in animal shelters? Why is that particular dog so frequently abandoned?

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    I have no doubt that yours are good.

    Why do you suppose there are so many in animal shelters? Why is that particular dog so frequently abandoned?
    Bad owners mixed with fear...I'd rather put a dog down humanely rather than let it live with poor people..poor people no matter the race shouldn't be allowed to have animals tbh....

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    So who wins 1 on 1...Pit or Bull Mastiff ?
    Not sure on that one. I'd say Mastiff due to size but most Mastiff's aren't known to bite an intruder and rather just knock them down and pin them. I don't know what a Mastiff would do in a dog fight.

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    I have no doubt that yours are good.

    Why do you suppose there are so many in animal shelters? Why is that particular dog so frequently abandoned?
    Bunch of stupid s got and bred them thinking they look tough and make good gaurd dogs I'd guess. Probably abandoned because they make terrible guard dogs. .
    Same thing happened years ago with dobermans, Rottweilers, and German Shepards. They were all the "it" dog for people wanting to look tough and their bite numbers ed due to sheer volume owned.


    The shelter I've adopted from over the years hand picks them out of various shelters in Southern CA and does temperament testing before putting them up for adoption so you know you're getting a good dog to start with

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    Pitbulls are built like small Jaguars. They have massive heads and very powerful jaws. If one does go bad they can do a great deal more damage than most other dogs due to that damn head. This is what I think about.

    I have to be able to easily kill my own dog. Rule.
    If I ever had a dog attack someone like that I would lock myself up. So I own a very mild mannered small mut who would gladly go off with any other owner and not look back. Total lap dog and just happy. Great alarm dog as he senses anything outside moving around and heads to the part of the house with the noise outside. The dog has never even growled at any human and usually never any other dog. I don't get that part. Runs after birds and squirrels without growling. Backs opossums up but does not growl. Stares at Raccoons.

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    Pitbulls are built like small Jaguars. They have massive heads and very powerful jaws. If one does go bad they can do a great deal more damage than most other dogs due to that damn head. This is what I think about.

    I have to be able to easily kill my own dog. Rule.
    If I ever had a dog attack someone like that I would lock myself up. So I own a very mild mannered small mut who would gladly go off with any other owner and not look back. Total lap dog and just happy. Great alarm dog as he senses anything outside moving around and heads to the part of the house with the noise outside. The dog has never even growled at any human and usually never any other dog. I don't get that part. Runs after birds and squirrels without growling. Backs opossums up but does not growl. Stares at Raccoons.
    Pits are powerful dogs for sure, but there are many more powerful breeds out there. Anyone who own a large breed dog should exercise caution. I've been attacked twice, probably closer to ten times if you count small happy dogs. Once by two Chows and the other by an Akita. I ing hate Chows now so I can understand if someone was attacked by a Pit why they'd hate them too.

    The two Pits I have now are the kindest dogs I've owned. They won't kill a lizard if you put it right in front of their snout nor do they care about the raccoon family that lives in the creek. My little male follows butterflies around the backyard. As nice as they are I always keep an eye on them when someone new shows up to my house, especially children. People who assume their dogs are just always going take well to everyone haven't owned dogs for long enough. Some people just give off a bad vibe and can make the dogs nervous. Always got to be there for that first introduction to make corrections if needed.

    Dogs are dogs, train them well and raise them well and 99% of any breed will a fine dog. Except Chows, them to .

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    Before my Toy Fox Terier died she was the one I had to keep the closest eye on, especially around children.

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    Damn, where is a with a gun when you need one?

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    the only dogs i've been really wary around are german shepherds if it's my first interaction with them, but i'm generally good with animals and haven't been bitten by a dog yet.

    but i've been around a ton of different breeds of big/small dogs. right now we have 2 little guys, and they're way more hyper/jumpy than any big dog

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