If that even, tbh.
RM is not a great shooter, passer, or defender. He's a decent ball handler, passer, driver. He's not as quick as CoJo either; so, he won't be as good at drive and kicks either.
CoJo wasn't the best fit next to Manu though, and although he was very efficient on his own shots, the team wasn't exactly outscoring other teams on the regular with him out there. I thought we picked up Ray McCallum to play the CoJo minutes.
Simmons to me gets the Manu backup minutes and situational minutes depending on injuries to Kawhi or Danny. There is a chance he may get the backup SF role. I am personally thinking Kyle gets those minutes, but I am not so arrogant as to think my opinion trumps all.He still has to go and earn it. Even so, considering possible injuries and garbage time, there are minutes around for both guys.
The issue for Pop is that neither of these 3 (Ray, Kyle and Simmons) is known as a shooter, with the capacity to get hot and score in bunches. That was the issue I identified from Pop's statements concerning Marco's scoring ability. The team relied a lot on Marco last year, specially with Patty out, Cojo not being a shooter and Manu having regular low scoring nights. I think the concern might be even deeper than that, as Manu's production cannot be taken for granted.
I think Patty is already the scorer Pop wants but you need one other, bc if Patty is hurt, its trouble. Same with Danny. That role is perfectly scripted for Jimmer. It's a small role, but its important nevertheless.
Can Kyle emerge as the scorer Pop needs? I don't know if he's ready yet. It might be too soon. Can Simmons? Will be a rookie. Rookies notoriously struggle in their first year.... We don't know.
If that even, tbh.
RM is not a great shooter, passer, or defender. He's a decent ball handler, passer, driver. He's not as quick as CoJo either; so, he won't be as good at drive and kicks either.
CoJo was never a drive & kick guy. He drove to score & wasn't even as aggressive as Ray.
Yet SA would have rather had Cojo than Ray.... odd
Jimmer can't be that guy b/c there will be too many midgets on the floor. Gary Neal was playing over Patty & Stephen Jackson was in the Belly role back in 2012-13 then Patty took Neal's spot & Belly replaced Jackson. Right now the spots that's still needs to be filled is the backup wing spot which is most likely Butler's to lose.
CoJo was a game manager & a pretty good defender plus he knew the system. Ray is more like Tony & is a scoring guard.
McCallum is not getting cut, and he is a better shooter and scorer than Cory Joseph
The final spot with come down to either Jimmer, Williams or Butler.
Simply who shoots the best in preseason games will win the job imo, and still have to worry about getting cut around the buyout deadline for another player.
Well to me it's not about what he did in SL, just the potential. As always, many times a player never reaches that potential for various reasons. But in speaking in terms of potential I think Simmons has a chance to be a solid wing defender. Kyle isn't terrible and wasn't trying to imply that, but I do think his defensive ceiling is pretty limited. He can be fine, but not someone you can go say "sick 'em" and Kyle does that job.
Simmons has the physical tools to be better but of course it's far from certain he reaches said potential.
Nonsense.
Contracts are based on market forces. They're not straight-up talent evaluations. Someone like you knows this. You're manipulating your arguments to soothe your contempt for Jimmer and/or Jimmer fans.
I am actually excited to see Jimmer in the preseason TBH. We have hyped and debated this guy so much!!!!
If Anderson and Simmons can be your wing backup options, and Jimmer plays well, I think he's better than Butler, Williams or whomever is at the end competing for that spot.
Good chance Jimmer will be a double digit (average) scorer in preseason. He's done well in previous preseasons and summer leagues. But a lot will depend on how much Pop wants to play him.I am actually excited to see Jimmer in the preseason TBH. We have hyped and debated this guy so much!!!!
It's a rebuttal, not a constructive. I was merely pointing out that Pop saying Jimmer is going to do something doesn't mean it's fact. Pop has been very wrong before evaluating players. Anyways, Ayres got above market value. The Spurs paid him because they believed in him, not because of his market.
Yea, he was an athletic big, who was active, and supposedly had a midrange shot. I can imagine the Spurs thought his athleticism would help him play fast paced with Manu, and defend PnR well. If he could do that, his contract was a good deal. It turned out unfortunately that he didn't have range on his shot, which completely destroyed his usefulness, as you then had to play him close to the basket as a center, which defeated the point of having him defend PnR as well. You could not play him next to Timmy at all, and from there on it was downhill from him, bc as a center, he could not be the roll man with Manu as he could not catch on the move and didn't even have skill around the basket. There just wasn't one thing he did well. I think if had even been a decent roll man, he would have had a place in the league, like a Brendan Wright type, but he didn't even have that. Bc he was undersized, and not particularly long for a center, he wasn't much of a rim protector, either. On top of that, as gravy, he turned out to be foul prone, which Pop hates. He was uncoordinated I think. Ayres was the definition of a bust signee.
Anyways, I think he didn't pan out bc they could not play him as a 4 at all. The fact he had to play center completely negated whatever benefit they thought he would bring bc at that spot he didn't have any advantage whatsoever and his deficiencies were magnified. I wish him the best but I honestly didn't like him as a player bc his limitations were too glaring and he didn't bring one thing at an elite level. For all my criticism on Bonner, he had elite shooting and was neither foul prone, nor mistake prone. He's also limited, but he did bring value.I do hope that if they sign Jimmer, he is competent at what they sign him for. If he is to be a jolt of scoring to be used situationally, by all means maybe he can fulfill that and not be a bust signee (regarless of price, just saying he can hopefully fulfill the role they have for him, unlike Ayers).
Apparently you can't be a kawhi fan and like Jimmer as well.
ing christ this thing is almost at 70 pages. Seriously? For this end of the bench at best scrub.
lol
There is a lot off-the-topic discussion for the last maybe 10 pages? The first 60, yea too many lol
His moves were as slow as KA's. Only difference is he has someone pulling him back.
even kawahi has better handles than this scrub and he moves are as slow as klye anderson
Folks want to have the last word thus the back-and-forth isn't going to stop until Jimmer is eventually cut.
Look, I actually like Jimmer as he seems like a great guy, but he has to bring something to the team if he's going to make it and stick. If it's for scoring like some people have said, then I hope he can at least play average defense.
Maybe, you should actually watch the video this time.
even kawahi has better handles than this scrub and he moves are as slow as klye anderson
I've liked them both since they were in college. I always thought it'd be awesome to see them on the same team.
thanks for sharing.
Pop or one of the coaches (maybe Ime Udoka during SL) famously said something similar about Daye, that they wanted to see other things from him, and show that he could be a more complete player, rebounding, defending and doing other things beside just shoot. (He didn't shoot well either, which was probably his final doom). At least Jimmer has been shooting well. Not a bad guy to take a gamble on, about the same age as Daye was, with good character and work ethic.
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