Jimmer Fredette to the Spurs (Update: Mostly Non-Guaranteed Training Camp Deal)

[Spurtacular]

Simmons is not a one-read passer like Joseph, Green or Jimmer.

[ElNono]

Due to his athleticism and dynamism, I think Simms' game should translate well to "big-league compe ion".

The main question for him is: can he do it consistently, night in and out?

[Ignignokt]

You're the one pushing conspiracy theories developed from your persecution complex. That's pure drama queening.

cuckposting, ad hominem and general hyperbole

[SAGirl]

I saw plenty to make my own evaulation. I don't have to assume that my evaluation (and Simmons' d-league stats) is wrong simply because Pop has a different opinion. He can and has been wrong before, and there's plenty of time to see how Jonathon develops.

There are a couple of things to consider anyway when looking at my opinion in comparison with Pop's. Simmons has good court vision (knowing where multiple passing options are at any time), which is what Pop was talking about. But he also has a big TO problem, which is what I was talking about. Both of those things are part of being a good passer, but Simmons won't earn a rotation spot if he racks up the same TO numbers he did in the d-league, regardless of how many options he sees on the floor.

Simmons is not a one-read passer like Joseph, Green or Jimmer. So he has a lot of potential in that regard. But he isn't going to make the active roster based on his passing. He's not going to be the backup PG unless he really improves, but he could be a secondary ball-handler.

Agree with you fully here, and its what I have said about him since the beginning too. He's promising in that he has the vision to see multiple passing options and make the right choice most of the time. Like Pop says, that kind of thing can't be coached, Pop doesn't even know if it can be coached, like you mention premier examples being Joseph and Green, both guys that were in the system for a long time, and young enough to develop, but they are simple passers who can only see the first option and the simple option.

The issue with Simmons at least to me is his ballhandling is weak/raw. It was bad in the d'league (turnovers galore whenever he was trapped, and plenty of strips, cringe worthy), but he was better in the SL. In the d'league they had him as PG when Cotton was picked up by the Jazz and he was awful, in SL he was a secondary ball handler with a PG on the floor at all times. You wonder whether at 26, he can improve his ballhandling skills enough to develop into a very dynamic wing who can create. We shall all see. At least we know he can pass, and slash hard, and finish if he gets to the bucket or draw a foul. I hope he does develop because hes' an exciting athletic player that I think for the future, next to Anderson and Mills can form a dynamic trio post-Ginobili.

As for the interview, of course Pop only mentioned the positive. He wasn't going to say, yea he can pass, but .... (and then cite all the weak areas of his game that need improving). However, Pop did seem impressed by some things from him, and that is good for his prospects.

[ChumpDumper]

cuckposting, ad hominem and general hyperbole

Beats your stalking, obsession and general femininity.

[Chinook]

Jimmer's a bigger one-read passer than either Green or Joseph. There's nothing wrong with a two-guard making the easy pass 99 percent of the time. In fact, I think Jimmer is better with the ball than Simmons. But Jonathon has more upside due to his athleticism and court vision.

[SpursFan86]

Due to his athleticism and dynamism, I think Simms' game should translate well to "big-league compe ion".

The main question for him is: can he do it consistently, night in and out?

I'd be pretty shocked if he plays much over 10 mpg this year...don't think it's realistic to expect him to consistently contribute night in and night out. Unless you're talking about the long-term rather than this season.

[Nathan89]

Didn't realize Green could make non-easy passes. Probably missed his great ball-handling as well.

[ElNono]

I'd be pretty shocked if he plays much over 10 mpg this year...don't think it's realistic to expect him to consistently contribute night in and night out. Unless you're talking about the long-term rather than this season.

Yeah, I'm talking long term. He has the gift of over the top athleticism, that along with great size and quick speed, are a premium in this league. Genetic lottery winners normally end up sticking in the league.

[Spurtacular]

Comic Relief.....

[Gladney to see you]

Does Jimmer make the trip to Sacramento.

[cd98]

Does Jimmer make the trip to Sacramento.

Great question. The starters will go. I'd bet the top bench guys don't. Spurs don't need to see Mills, Manu, and Diaw. I think you will see the young guys fighting for roster spots, including Jimmer (coming home to team that drafted him).

[cd98]

Correction: No big 3:

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...season-opener/

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Saw this thread on the bottom half of the first page, had to bump it.

[Spursmania]

Why^^^^^^

[.G.]

These nggaz are stronging in the wrong like the ngga dawgz that they iz. Up on the down stroll.

[TheGreatYacht]

Why^^^^^^

[spurraider21]

If he can do what Gary Neal did, I'd be thrilled with him aboard.

And no I'm not talking about rape.

[monkeypunk]

If he can do what Gary Neal did, I'd be thrilled with him aboard.

We all would but most likely outcome is he can't find his shot, misses rotations a few times and Pop cuts him within the week.

[Nathan89]

in the hole imho.

[Nathan89]

Well Jimmer played terribly tonight.

[jeebus]

rofl

[HarlemHeat37]

as I said like 40 pages ago, if he was Black, nobody would even mention his name, tbh..

[benfti]

Was Rubbish

[HarlemHeat37]

He makes Ayres look like Larry Bird, tbh..