OT: Greatest rapper ever?

[RsxPiimp]

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[Clipper Nation]

I never understood the appeal of Tupac, tbh. His beats were consistently lame, his delivery/cadence was like nails on a chalkboard, and his militant political schtick was ripped off from Public Enemy (who did it better). He was still a million times better than that got Drake, but that's a pretty low bar. Still, I don't see how people could listen to Rakim, Big L, prime Nas, Wu-Tang, etc. and still rank Tupac as the greatest of his generation, let alone all-time.

[Clipper Nation]

Eminem
Hopsin
Dre for one album

Seriously? Eminem built his career off of biting from good rappers like Pharaohe Monche, Masta Ace, AZ, Nas, and Pacewon. And Hopsin is a ripoff of Eminem, making him a biter of a biter.

[Splits]

toss up between froggy fresh or slim jesus

[clambake]

weird al yankovic

[Bynumite]

I never understood the appeal of Tupac, tbh. His beats were consistently lame, his delivery/cadence was like nails on a chalkboard, and his militant political schtick was ripped off from Public Enemy (who did it better). He was still a million times better than that got Drake, but that's a pretty low bar. Still, I don't see how people could listen to Rakim, Big L, prime Nas, Wu-Tang, etc. and still rank Tupac as the greatest of his generation, let alone all-time.

Wu Tang You're such a gook geek, it ain't even funny.

[Killakobe81]

Wu Tang You're such a gook geek, it ain't even funny.

wu was popular with asian kids ...but i loved them too. enter the 36 and only built for cuban linx are classics. triumph was also an anthem.

[The Gemini Method]

wu was popular with asian kids ...but i loved them too. enter the 36 and only built for cuban linx are classics. triumph was also an anthem.

Don't forget Liquid Swords!

[Infinite_limit]

[ambchang]

2Pac, Jay-Z, Outkast (Dre mostly), Rakim, Public Enemy ... in that order.

Drake is trash.

[Clipper Nation]

wu was popular with asian kids ...but i loved them too. enter the 36 and only built for cuban linx are classics. triumph was also an anthem.

Triumph was a classic. How many six-minute-long tracks without any hook at all get on the radio? Plus the full video got played on MTV at a time when people still cared about music videos, despite being five minutes longer than their audience's attention span.

[Killakobe81]

Don't forget Liquid Swords!

No doubt ... shadowboxin', Labels, classic hip hop

[Thebesteva]

I never understood the appeal of Tupac, tbh. His beats were consistently lame, his delivery/cadence was like nails on a chalkboard, and his militant political schtick was ripped off from Public Enemy (who did it better). He was still a million times better than that got Drake, but that's a pretty low bar. Still, I don't see how people could listen to Rakim, Big L, prime Nas, Wu-Tang, etc. and still rank Tupac as the greatest of his generation, let alone all-time.

It's hard to see greatness when your eyes are slanted

[HarlemHeat37]

Well, Pac has multiple classic albums. Your boy Drake is hot garbage and has yet to drop a classic album even with the help of ghostwriters

By the way, being a great lyricist=/=being a great rap artist. Can the great lyricist put a song together the way 2Pac did? Obviously not.

Drake is one of the most innovative and creative rappers in music history, tbh..it's usually people in their 30s and 40s that dislike him, along with insecure men IMO..

I like 2Pac, but he had 1 great album and was a mediocre rapper from a lyrical/creativity standpoint..his passion and emotion was his best feature, which is why I like him, but his actual music wasn't that great..he was pushing his Black Panther in an era where s were just making music, rather than making political statements, which helped him stand out and resonate with fans..

[HarlemHeat37]

The West Coast has the tiest rap music of all-time, tbh..it's been absolute trash since about 1993..

[Bynumite]

Drake is one of the most innovative and creative rappers in music history, tbh..it's usually people in their 30s and 40s that dislike him, along with insecure men IMO..

I like 2Pac, but he had 1 great album and was a mediocre rapper from a lyrical/creativity standpoint..his passion and emotion was his best feature, which is why I like him, but his actual music wasn't that great..

You're en led to be wrong.

This song alone>Drake's entire discography:

[HarlemHeat37]

Ugh, had to restart my laptop after clicking play on that trash song, tbh..

[Bynumite]

Ugh, had to restart my laptop after clicking play on that trash song, tbh..

Your boy Drake wishes his ghostwriters could have written that song for him

[DeRozan m8]

Seriously? Eminem built his career off of biting from good rappers like Pharaohe Monche, Masta Ace, AZ, Nas, and Pacewon. And Hopsin is a ripoff of Eminem, making him a biter of a biter.

Yeah, i realize I like what a lot of hiphop dudes consider garbage hahah
Im more into metalcore and so its not like im a pro in the rap area

[Arcadian]

none, they all suck

[DeRozan m8]

I know Hopsin ... Went to school with his older brothers. I ran track with one and hooped with the other ... Crazy that lil nigg would even be in this convo. I need to listen to more of his stuff. I thought he had skills but not sure I would put him this class maybe I am wrong ....

Hahha thats sick man.

Hop has a fair following in Australia, his latest album is his most consistent work but he's does have a lot of good tracks....just a few crap ones also.

Rate him highly but

[Down Under]

Corny lyrics which are written by a record company obviously makes a bad rapper. But any upper middle class rappers, like kanye, talking about how great they are, are obviously garbage as well because there is no substance to what he is writing about. 2Pac as a composer obviously wasn't the best, but his lyrics had a message, as well as his emotion in the rapping, made his music of real substance.

[LakasRool4eva]

Eminem is the greatest lyricologist of are times.......................

[Down Under]

Marshall Mathers & Slim Shady were good apart from the pop songs. The rest of his stuff is obviously written to make money as pop music. Outkast Aquemini, Snoop's Doggystyle are good. Other multisyllabic stuff like blackalicious & alternative rap like the roots & Jurassic 5 have some pretty good stuff too.

[313]

Well, Pac has multiple classic albums. Your boy Drake is hot garbage and has yet to drop a classic album even with the help of ghostwriters

By the way, being a great lyricist=/=being a great rap artist. Can the great lyricist put a song together the way 2Pac did? Obviously not.

Have you listened to Pac albums? Full of e fillers